Ultimatum Begins!

[Mogwai]

i bet he will... no more pyms..

 

[random_havoc]

I also suspect Giant Man bites the dust in Ultimatum # 3 because so far the people on the variant have died each time... so we'll see if that holds true on issue 3 or if it was a coincidence.

Oh please please please let this be true. I actually LIKED what they were doing with Giant Man in Ultimates 1 and 2, but then they gave him that ******ed yellowjacket persona.


P.s. Loeb needs to die.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

ultimate daredevil death was kind of random.

I also suspect Giant Man bites the dust in Ultimatum # 3 because so far the people on the variant have died each time... so we'll see if that holds true on issue 3 or if it was a coincidence.

Hmmm...yes, I suppose so. I wonder if the Varients don't turn out to be a bit of a curve ball.

 

[Ipodman]

i would LOVE Ult. Ghost Rider to be honest...

 

[chris moore]

Ult Ghost Rider coming about BECAUSE of the forces released from Dr Strange's house would be a nice Ultimate departure from the 616 origin.

 

[CaptainClown]

Wow I just got into the Ultimates and I am having my hopes crushed by the people in this thread. I probably won't read past Ultimates 2

 

[Anubis]

That would be a wise decision.

 

[TromaFreak64]

Ult Ghost Rider coming about BECAUSE of the forces released from Dr Strange's house would be a nice Ultimate departure from the 616 origin.

Yes it would. So sick of stupid rehashes. Why do exactly the same thing as the main universe. Different takes used to be the point of having a different universe.

 

[Aztec]

Wow I just got into the Ultimates and I am having my hopes crushed by the people in this thread. I probably won't read past Ultimates 2

I feel you. I just recently read The Ultimates 1 & 2 and they are fantastic. Then I researched Ultimates 3 and Ultimatum and they sound like (and based upon what I've read they are) total disasters. My advice would be to wait for Mark Millar's return on Ultimate Avengers.

OT CaptainClown: I love your avatar. Add a Mortal Kombat villain and it will be perfect!

Back on topic:
I also hope Ultimate Ghost Rider's origin is something unique. I'd like the Ultimate universe to be as different as possible from "Marvel Proper" (which is what Joe Q wants the 616 to be known as) but still focus on the realism angle that has made it so great. I'm very excited to see Ghost Rider and Punisher ultimatized. I'm hoping that they can team up with Wolverine to create an Ultimate version of Hearts of Darkness!

 

[random_havoc]

Just so y'all know (if you didn't already) Punisher was already Ultimatized in Ultimate Marvel Team-Up issues #6-8. It was really cool actually.

 

[random_havoc]

Okay, just finished reading my advance copy of Ultimatum #3. All I'll say is it's just as terrible as #1 & 2. Finch also doesn't seem to be trying as hard on the art as he used to.

So, for those of you who aren't picking up the issues (and I beg you not to, let's all please convince Marvel to never use Loeb again) but are interested vaguely in what's going on, here's a list of who died this issue and how:

These are spoilers in the truest sense of the word. You've been warned.

Spoiler

First off, the following people were confirmed as dead:
-Dazzler, beast, nightcrawler (via the tidal wave)
-The "academy of tomorrow"'s Emma frost, sunspot, cannonball, polaris (tidal wave again I think), though Havoc may have survived
-Longshot, forge, detonator, hardrive were caught and killed in the savage land
-a whole ton of madroxes were killed cuz magneto's forcing them to be suicide bombers all over the world (though there are still more alive of course)
-Seeing that the Blob has eaten Jan's guts Hank Pym (as a giant) picks up blob (without any explanation as to how he's able to do that, I thought that was supposed to be really hard but maybe that's only the 616 blob) and bites his head off and spits it out.
-Thor sacrifices himself in the land of the dead so that Cap can come back. So Thor's dead
-Then, as people were predicting, Hank dies. Basically he sacrifices himself to get Jan's body back to the Treskellion where he asks Stark to use something he'd been working on called "the Jocasta iniativie" or something like that. But a bunch of suicide bombing madroxes were about to blow up the Triskellion so to make sure Jan is safe Hank took them all on himself (giant form) and walked off, kablooie.

By the last frame it looks like the heroes finally have their crap together and are ready to actually do something useful.

Magneto still has and is wantonly using Mjolnir.

In conclusion, Loeb is still completely ruining the Ultimate MU. I must confess to having been stupid enough to buy the first two issues. I won't be buying anything else written Loeb. EVER AGAIN.

 

[Aztec]

Okay, just finished reading my advance copy of Ultimatum #3. All I'll say is it's just as terrible as #1 & 2. Finch also doesn't seem to be trying as hard on the art as he used to.

So, for those of you who aren't picking up the issues (and I beg you not to, let's all please convince Marvel to never use Loeb again) but are interested vaguely in what's going on, here's a list of who died this issue and how:

These are spoilers in the truest sense of the word. You've been warned.

Spoiler

First off, the following people were confirmed as dead:
-Dazzler, beast, nightcrawler (via the tidal wave)
-The "academy of tomorrow"'s Emma frost, sunspot, cannonball, polaris (tidal wave again I think), though Havoc may have survived
-Longshot, forge, detonator, hardrive were caught and killed in the savage land
-a whole ton of madroxes were killed cuz magneto's forcing them to be suicide bombers all over the world (though there are still more alive of course)
-Seeing that the Blob has eaten Jan's guts Hank Pym (as a giant) picks up blob (without any explanation as to how he's able to do that, I thought that was supposed to be really hard but maybe that's only the 616 blob) and bites his head off and spits it out.
-Thor sacrifices himself in the land of the dead so that Cap can come back. So Thor's dead
-Then, as people were predicting, Hank dies. Basically he sacrifices himself to get Jan's body back to the Treskellion where he asks Stark to use something he'd been working on called "the Jocasta iniativie" or something like that. But a bunch of suicide bombing madroxes were about to blow up the Triskellion so to make sure Jan is safe Hank took them all on himself (giant form) and walked off, kablooie.

By the last frame it looks like the heroes finally have their crap together and are ready to actually do something useful.

Magneto still has and is wantonly using Mjolnir.

In conclusion, Loeb is still completely ruining the Ultimate MU. I must confess to having been stupid enough to buy the first two issues. I won't be buying anything else written Loeb. EVER AGAIN.

Dear lord Loeb is awful! I'll never buy his stuff. I'm going from The Ultimates 2 straight to Ultimate Avengers.

 

[mre]

Spoiler

Wait... Hank Pym bites off the Blob's head...? He grows to a giant, bites Blob's head off, and then spits out the head?

 

[ironman29758]

can someone post apicture of this impossible Hank Pym feat

 

[rnewbz]

I used to think that maybe Loeb's writing slipped because of Sam's death, but now I'm not sure, he seems to lost all sense of using a coheisive narratvie structure. I'm only reading Ultimatum for the ramifications it will have in the Ultimate Universe.

 

[Shifty]

Just so y'all know (if you didn't already) Punisher was already Ultimatized in Ultimate Marvel Team-Up issues #6-8. It was really cool actually.

He was also in Ultimate Spider-Man Annual 2 and USM 61.

 

[random_havoc]

can someone post apicture of this impossible Hank Pym feat

I would, but I've just been thinking (after posting these spoilers today) that if my editor finds out I've been posting this stuff I might not get these pre-release copies to review any more. So posting a whole page would definitely be a big no no. But I'm sure on Wednesday somebody'll post it.

 

[El Bastardo]

[BLACKOUT]Suicide-bombing Madroxes? Holy crap, that's actually a cool idea Loeb implemented.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[Anubis]

So was the Madrox Wendigos, but that didn't help people get into Universe X.

 

[random_havoc]

[BLACKOUT]Suicide-bombing Madroxes? Holy crap, that's actually a cool idea Loeb implemented.[/BLACKOUT]

True, but this idea was also featured in UXM 100, so I tend to think it wasn't Loeb's idea, as he seems incapable of good writing.

 

[Aztec]

True, but this idea was also featured in UXM 100, so I tend to think it wasn't Loeb's idea, as he seems incapable of good writing.

It is actually a cool idea but I'm not surprised he lifted it from elsewhere either.

 

[El Bastardo]

.. UXM 100 already came out? Did I miss it? I must have missed it. Crap. I hate trying to track missed issues. I always forget.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

UXM 100 comes out weds according to marvel.com, same week as ULT3 soo... not really stealing ideas... its all interwoven

 

[random_havoc]

.. UXM 100 already came out? Did I miss it? I must have missed it. Crap. I hate trying to track missed issues. I always forget.

Comes out wednesday. I get advanced copies of certain marvel issues. Comes out same day as Ult 3, I'm not saying Loeb stole the idea, just that I doubt it was originally his cuz he can't seem to come up with any good ideas at all these days.

 

[samurai black]

So Ultimate DareDevil is dead. They suck.

What, when did this happen?