Age of Ultron Ultron! We Would Have Words With Thee! Official Thor/Chris Hemworth Thread

[BigThor]

I recall Vision taking on all of the avengers

There was an episode called "Purple man" where Vision fought Thor one on one.

 

[Loki882]

Hulk loses fights all the time. Its just that no one reads Hulk comics so they base all there Options on vague assumption.

Zeus

Ultron

Silver Surf

Thanos (although his was Professor Hulk)

Avengers: EMH also had Doctor Doom take out Hulk FIRST, before the other Avengers/FF members.

 

[Herolee10]

Based on everything that we've seen of Thor's abilities within the MCU, along with Asgardians for that matter, do you guys think that the Power Stone (from GOTG), let alone Kree technology (as shown in AOS) would be strong enough to kill Thor?

 

[Val Hallen]

I think the power stone could kill anyone. ANYONE.

Don't think Kree tech would do it though.

 

[BigThor]

Based on everything that we've seen of Thor's abilities within the MCU, along with Asgardians for that matter, do you guys think that the Power Stone (from GOTG), let alone Kree technology (as shown in AOS) would be strong enough to kill Thor?

Well whatever stone Malekith had did next to nothing to Thor, so I don't know.

I'm unfamiliar with the Kree tech you're talking about, can you explain?

 

[Herolee10]

Well whatever stone Malekith had did next to nothing to Thor, so I don't know.

I'm unfamiliar with the Kree tech you're talking about, can you explain?

Well to be fair, the stone that Malekith used wasn't the "power" stone, which I'm assuming would have more "oomph" in it than the Aether.

The Kree tech that I'm referring about is that silver/metallic device that Hydra and SHIELD was fighting over for in Season 2 recently, the one that also just gave Skye and Raina their powers while killing Trip (RIP) and anyone else that it considered unworthy to a pile of ash.

Not to mention that whatever security system that the Kree left in their temple was effective enough to put one of the other SHIELD agents in some sort of painful mind control as well.

 

[BigThor]

Well to be fair, the stone that Malekith used wasn't the "power" stone, which I'm assuming would have more "oomph" in it than the Aether.

The Kree tech that I'm referring about is that silver/metallic device that Hydra and SHIELD was fighting over for in Season 2 recently, the one that also just gave Skye and Raina their powers while killing Trip (RIP) and anyone else that it considered unworthy to a pile of ash.

Not to mention that whatever security system that the Kree left in their temple was effective enough to put one of the other SHIELD agents in some sort of painful mind control as well.

It might be weaker but I'm sure the difference isn't that great. The Aether was powerful enough to plunge the entire universe in darkness.

So more powerful or not, I'm sure Thor can stand up to it long enough to defeat the wielder. And oh okay, yeah those Kree weapons don't sound like they'd give Thor much of a prob.

 

[Herolee10]

It might be weaker but I'm sure the difference isn't that great. The Aether was powerful enough to plunge the entire universe in darkness.

So more powerful or not, I'm sure Thor can stand up to it long enough to defeat the wielder. And oh okay, yeah those Kree weapons don't sound like they'd give Thor much of a prob.

Well, doesn't each stone have a specific purpose though? I mean the Cube is supposedly the "Space Gem", while the Aether is the gem that can "warp" reality and such. If the Power stone is specifically tailored towards being the one that would give out the most power, hence its name, wouldn't it give Thor some trouble as well?

Honestly, I can't even tell if MCU Thor is as strong as his comic book counterpart is given on how they've changed a few things. MCU Thor is not half Elder God like he is in the comics, and they haven't really shown him doing some of those crazy "god blasts" that he's famous for doing with his hammer in the comics as well.

 

[BigThor]

Well, doesn't each stone have a specific purpose though? I mean the Cube is supposedly the "Space Gem", while the Aether is the gem that can "warp" reality and such. If the Power stone is specifically tailored towards being the one that would give out the most power, hence its name, wouldn't it give Thor some trouble as well?

Honestly, I can't even tell if MCU Thor is as strong as his comic book counterpart is given on how they've changed a few things. MCU Thor is not half Elder God like he is in the comics, and they haven't really shown him doing some of those crazy "god blasts" that he's famous for doing with his hammer in the comics as well.

Yes I think it could give Thor more trouble but nothing he couldn't handle in a fight. If you mean do I think it "could" kill him if he was continuously hit by it then my answers yes.

Neither Hulk, nor Iron Man are as strong as they are in the comics none of the heavies are.

 

[seahammer]

Based on everything that we've seen of Thor's abilities within the MCU, along with Asgardians for that matter, do you guys think that the Power Stone (from GOTG), let alone Kree technology (as shown in AOS) would be strong enough to kill Thor?

I don't think the Kree tech from AoS (the Diviner) would do anything to Asgardians. Purely baseless assumption, of course, but (AoS spoilers) if

Spoiler

the Diviner is a Terrigen crystal meant to turn humans into Inhumans if they have the right genetics

, I'm going to say that it wouldn't do anything to non-human DNA.

As for the Orb in GOTG... Ronan was able to hold it long enough to put into his Universal Weapon without exploding like Carina, and I don't think the Kree are as hearty as Asgardians, or as "ancient" a race, so I'm going to say that Thor would at least be able to hold it for a short time without adverse effects. Facing it in battle? It depends on the wielder, TBH, but based on his durability in the MCU I feel that Thor would be able to withstand it long enough to defeat an average (or even above average) wielder of the Orb, like he did with Malekith.

For example, I think if Thor were on Xandar instead of the Guardians, he would have been able to defeat Ronan after a bit of a tussle, especially with Mjolnir (which would help defend against blasts from Ronan's Universal Weapon + Gem, as well as knock the gem out of the U.W. the same way a rocket did in GOTG). If it were a Celestial wielding it, like in the flashback? I don't know how long Thor would last unless he had a lot of back up or a battle plan going in.

 

[Val Hallen]

The thing about the gems we've seen.. is no one who's possessed one truly knew how to get the most of them. Not even Malekith it would seem, as he pretty much just decided to hit Thor with it.

 

[BigThor]

The thing about the gems we've seen.. is no one who's possessed one truly knew how to get the most of them. Not even Malekith it would seem, as he pretty much just decided to hit Thor with it.

Malekith seemed to know more about his gem than Ronan in my opinion.

 

[jaqua99]

It might be weaker but I'm sure the difference isn't that great. The Aether was powerful enough to plunge the entire universe in darkness.

So more powerful or not, I'm sure Thor can stand up to it long enough to defeat the wielder. And oh okay, yeah those Kree weapons don't sound like they'd give Thor much of a prob.

Well, doesn't each stone have a specific purpose though? I mean the Cube is supposedly the "Space Gem", while the Aether is the gem that can "warp" reality and such. If the Power stone is specifically tailored towards being the one that would give out the most power, hence its name, wouldn't it give Thor some trouble as well?

Honestly, I can't even tell if MCU Thor is as strong as his comic book counterpart is given on how they've changed a few things. MCU Thor is not half Elder God like he is in the comics, and they haven't really shown him doing some of those crazy "god blasts" that he's famous for doing with his hammer in the comics as well.

The reality gem isn't necessarily one for combat, and it seems Malekith was about able to match Thor with the reality gem. Tell me, could a character with the reality gem defeat thor in combat in the comics? No. Power gem? Yes. But it depends on the character.

I don't know about killing but it is confirmed on screen that the power stone minimum has planet shattering power. Thor isn't going to beat a good warrior with that stone. Ronan with the power stone very well could have killed Thor. He was about to destroy a whole planet.

 

[BigThor]

I disagree, I'm sure Thor posses the combat efficiency to defeat Ronan with the power gem. Besides Mjolnir is much more powerful than that rocket launcher that destroyed Roman's weapon.

 

[LowlifeZar]

I personally think any gem can be used as an offensive weapon. The tesseract being the space gem packs quite a punch when weaponized. Of course not on par with the power stone, but weaponized it does pretty well.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

If ronan can use the power stone so can thor me thinks.

 

[BigThor]

I personally think any gem can be used as an offensive weapon. The tesseract being the space gem packs quite a punch when weaponized. Of course not on par with the power stone, but weaponized it does pretty well.

Agreed

 

[seahammer]

I admit to having qualms early on that Thor would get less TLC in this film, but the new trailer really did a lot to quiet those doubts. If, in fact, he is shooting lightning without Mjolnir, then that's a great showing for him.

Of course, this shot raises all sorts of questions!
Where is he in this scene? There are candles and it has a temple look to it.
Who is that woman?
Where is Mjolnir?
Is he really in control? Someone in the other thread pointed out that he looks pretty uncomfortable.

Of course, it could be that summoning lightning is not a pleasant or easily controlled experience, even for an Asgardian thunder god, which is why he uses Mjolnir as a conduit.

 

[John-An]

Thor isn't shooting the lightning. someone is controlling him. I think either Scarlet Witch reflected an attack or manipulate him or the chick behin him (maybe the enchantress?) look at how she moves.

 

[BigThor]

I'm sticking to my guns of Thor shooting the lightning, it looks like he's getting hit & retaliates.

 

[John-An]

Respected and could be but the woman behind Thor's back is doing some sort of movements with her hands that say otherwise. We'll see.

 

[Herolee10]

I'm holding out for a little hope that Thor may actually have a bigger role in this film than I originally intended.

Honestly, this is his only chance to be mostly Loki free.lol, and show that he doesn't need to constantly be antagonized by Loki in order to be a compelling character.

 

[BigThor]

Same here bro, it's looking pretty good judging from the trailers.

 

[Herolee10]

Same here bro, it's looking pretty good judging from the trailers.

I'm really hoping that we get to see him have a say in the matters regarding the group's actions, let alone gather his opinions about the matters of Earth.

I felt like we only got a glimpse of it during the whole "argument" that took place in "The Avengers".

As much as I enjoy seeing (even with what little we have so far) him go on his asgardian adventures, I want to see Thor really established as a hero of Earth, or at least feel like it, in this film.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I admit to having qualms early on that Thor would get less TLC in this film, but the new trailer really did a lot to quiet those doubts. If, in fact, he is shooting lightning without Mjolnir, then that's a great showing for him.

Of course, this shot raises all sorts of questions!
Where is he in this scene? There are candles and it has a temple look to it.
Who is that woman?
Where is Mjolnir?
Is he really in control? Someone in the other thread pointed out that he looks pretty uncomfortable.

Of course, it could be that summoning lightning is not a pleasant or easily controlled experience, even for an Asgardian thunder god, which is why he uses Mjolnir as a conduit.

I think he's re-channeling an electrical attack from Ultron. If true, that would be a nice little nod to Jason Aaron's current run on Thor, where the character's been able to summon his storm w/o the aid of Mjolnir on three separate occasions.