I am not sure he is even bleeding in that scene, but the point is the amount of firepower it takes to make Hulk's nose bleed is tremedous. There is a clear different. Loki stabs Thor, and makes him limp for a bit with a small dagger. It takes a ton of fire power to make Hulk bleed from the nose? Thor is has been injured more then once in the MCU already. Do you not see the difference?
I see the difference of your comments. I already said I specifically disproved the statement that Hulk showed no signs of physical damage (he's clearly bleeding from his nose when he's getting up from the rubble a good while later, which is of course minor damage but that was not the point you made). I did that because it renders any discussion pointless if it's not based on the proper facts. That's the first step to take, then we can do the comparisons.
Are you talking Thor only in the MCU, or Thor in general? Because he doesn't even have Mjolnir right now, and there have been plenty of others to wield the hammer. Also, even the movie verse, Cap is clearly worthy.
And there is a clear difference. We are asking about the abilities of Hulk and Thor. Not Hulk vs. Thor and his magical hammer. You bring up Tony, but that is the entire point of Iron Man 3. He is not built like the others, not even the super solider. Thor needs the hammer to make it a closer fight, but he ain't beating movie Hulk. Not when you consider the fact that the Hulk can just get angrier. It is the survival mechanism of the Hulk.
I'm talking Thor in the MCU, and I though everyone were as we've only given movie examples. In the comics Thor has clearly greater feats so there's less need to compare there. As for Cap in the MCU, it remains to be seen if he's worthy. The trailer clearly indicates that he's just close as he fails to lift it.
The discussion wasn't about Thor without Mjolnir when you jumped in, nor did I see you specify that, so therefor I saw no reason to comment on anything like that. People were talking about them being shown as equals in their fight, which contained Thor using Mjolnir. And what is supporting that Hulk wasn't in full rage when he was uncontrollable? Anger is not unlimited. It's far more likely that the heroes' strength levels will depend on what individual scenes need as superhero movies really don't hold up to the scrutiny we're currently applying.
First, stop being hostile. Completely unnecessary.
Second, my point is the caliber matters. You point out Loki taking the shots. Do you notice he doesn't try to avoid them? Because it is unnecessary. Once the higher caliber rounds come out, Thor ducks out of the way. He clearly does it. It shows the clear difference. They annoy Hulk, but he takes them full on.
That's not hostility, it's a clarifying comment since you keep saying something different after I point out errors in what you said. If you're not going to take responsibility for what you say then the discussion is pointless, and that can be said without being hostile if that is unclear. Without taking responsibility and arguing from that we stop having a reasonable discussion and rather fall into some contest to "win". Again I was pointing out that you stated an incorrect fact and, as said, the discussion is irrelevant if the facts are wrong.
And Thor might just duck because he doesn't know what the plane guns do. Just because we don't see him being able to survive those rounds doesn't mean that he can't. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. We also see Sif save him from being shot by an arrow in TDW and saying "you're welcome", but just after that Thor actually does get shot by one and it does nothing to him. With your logic the first case would have stated that he couldn't take the arrow.
Thor does not need to spin Mjolnir to fly:
More then once he flies with the hammer in away that makes no sense in terms of "momentum", like when he lands on the bridge to face Loki in "Thor".
And I am pretty sure physics tells us if you were to change directions immediately, yes your velocity in another direction can and would change.
That's true, my statement wasn't correct when put in that general manner. He's always whirled it when he starts flying from an already stationary position though and only done anything else when Mjolnir already had forward momentum of it's own. Also if he used Mjolnir to fly he wouldn't have had any reason to hit the ground as he can fly way faster than the speed he was falling at, which further strengthens the interpretation that he just jumped out through the glass.
Thor jumping horizontally would not change the speed of which he impacted the ground because he was pushing off something that was moving at the same speed. What could differ is the air resistance when he broke out of the cage, but it would be negligible.
Why does it matter that he was knocked out if he was completely fine? You think if someone started attacking him, he wouldn't walk up in rage mode? Do you not understand how the Hulk works?
I don't know what you're trying to say here. I only know that you told me that I need to rewatch the movie when you were the one being wrong, and now you're completely ignoring that you did.
No, just no. Hulk Smash is the theme for a reason. Would you like to compare Hulk v. Loki and the two fights Thor has had with Loki?
"No, just no"? Seriously, that's the way we're arguing now? That Hulk smacked Loki easier than Thor did has nothing to do with that it's a bigger feat to destroy twice as much with one attack.
But to comment on the actual comparison, ignoring the false facts, Hulk has shown more durability and Thor has shown the biggest damage output.