The Amazing Spider-Man *Update* Your Rating for TASM

[XtremelyBaneful]

TASM is the most polarizing thing i've ever seen in my life. I can watch it, enjoy it for the most part, although I do have serious issues that I don't want to get into right now. Then I think about it, grow to dislike it, watch it again, and like it. Probably a 6/10, it does some things right and even better than Raimi, but imo, failed to capture the heart and spirit of Spider-Man.

I don't think so man. the spirit of spiderman is a kid genius in tights who makes wise crack jokes to small time crooks and is sarcastic enough to sometimes get his ass kicked but outsmart and outwit supervillains.

 

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I'd say 7, looks quite good but the plot will surely not be as good as TASM 1.

Anyway check out this vid, might raise some speculations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3ywNoW1K0w

 

[Spider-Aziz]

TASM is the most polarizing thing i've ever seen in my life. I can watch it, enjoy it for the most part, although I do have serious issues that I don't want to get into right now. Then I think about it, grow to dislike it, watch it again, and like it. Probably a 6/10, it does some things right and even better than Raimi, but imo, failed to capture the heart and spirit of Spider-Man.

Is it better than you-know-what?

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Is it better than you-know-what?

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

i think he means sm3

 

[Picard Sisko]

I guess I'll have to watch it again for that scene and no unfortunately I have not ever seen a perfect movie, but some can be near perfect

the police station scene, where stacy makes a godzilla reference? hm i dunno I felt like that scene was done fine. this movie was not so bad but either way spidey's popularity has diminished with the ever growing mcu

His popularity isn't diminishing, its just that he hasn't had a GREAT movie since SM2, which was 10 years ago. The GA pays most attention to what is current.

 

[Picard Sisko]

XtremelyBaneful, do you really think this movie is only worth a 1 out of 10?

Even chaseter wouldn't give the movie a 1 out of 10.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

His popularity isn't diminishing, its just that he hasn't had a GREAT movie since SM2, which was 10 years ago. The GA pays most attention to what is current.

i'd say his popularity definitely has diminished. there definitely was not anywhere near the amount of hype for asm as there was for avengers and dkr two summers ago. as well, the general consensus is that sm2 was the best of the raimi trilogy but strangely, it grossed the least, and asm did even worse.

as well, the ga seems pretty divided on who was the better peter/spider, really. i see and hear people on both sides saying tobey is better, and garfield is better.

Even chaseter wouldn't give the movie a 1 out of 10.

i don't know who this chaseter guy is. is he like a notorious hater of spiderman around here?
I was probably just infuriated at the time that there were no direct mcu references in the film.

 

[Picard Sisko]

i'd say his popularity definitely has diminished. there definitely was not anywhere near the amount of hype for asm as there was for avengers and dkr two summers ago. as well, the general consensus is that sm2 was the best of the raimi trilogy but strangely, it grossed the least, and asm did even worse.

as well, the ga seems pretty divided on who was the better peter/spider, really. i see and hear people on both sides saying tobey is better, and garfield is better.

i don't know who this chaseter guy is. is he like a notorious hater of spiderman around here?
I was probably just infuriated at the time that there were no direct mcu references in the film.

TASM didn't get hype because it was a quick reboot/redoing of the same origin story. That's not the same as the character of Spider-Man having his popularity diminish.

Giving the film a 1 out of 10 because it didn't have any MCU references? I respect your opinion, but I think that's a poor reason to hate a movie.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I was probably just infuriated at the time that there were no direct mcu references in the film.

That's because it doesn't take place in the MCU...

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

TASM didn't get hype because it was a quick reboot/redoing of the same origin story. That's not the same as the character of Spider-Man having his popularity diminish.

Giving the film a 1 out of 10 because it didn't have any MCU references? I respect your opinion, but I think that's a poor reason to hate a movie.

look man I said I was infuriated at the time and that's why I gave it such a low vote. I don't hate the movie, I like it, I think it is good, and I even said here in this post in this thread on the last page that I would give a 7-7.5.

also, mos was a reboot/redoing (albeit not 'quick' like asm) of the superman origin story and look at it, it's turned into the highest grossing superman film ever and definitely helped propel the character's popularity up.

That's because it doesn't take place in the MCU...

...and I don't like that it doesn't.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

i think he means sm3

Nope, Evil and I like Spider-Man 3 more than Amazing

 

[Picard Sisko]

look man I said I was infuriated at the time and that's why I gave it such a low vote. I don't hate the movie, I like it, I think it is good, and I even said here in this post in this thread on the last page that I would give a 7-7.5.

also, mos was a reboot/redoing (albeit not 'quick' like asm) of the superman origin story and look at it, it's turned into the highest grossing superman film ever and definitely helped propel the character's popularity up.

...and I don't like that it doesn't.

You can't compare MOS to TASM. Both are reboots but are in completely different situations entirely. MOS earned $668,045,518 while TASM made over $750,000,000 worldwide as well.

Nope, Evil and I like Spider-Man 3 more than Amazing

I still find that amazing. lol

 

[A Necessary Evil]

...and I don't like that it doesn't.

You can't take off points for something a movie isn't at fault for. That would be like me saying "I don't like X-Men 2 because it didn't show Reed Richards in the background."

I still find that amazing. lol

Congratulations

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

You can't take off points for something a movie isn't at fault for. That would be like me saying "I don't like X-Men 2 because it didn't show Reed Richards in the background."

yes I can. like, I did, therefore I can. It's my opinion. Especially after all the talk of oscorp being in avengers, and there being an active mcu existing I want more than ever for spidey to exist in it and I always will.

something as simple as crane dad saying "If there's one thing an alien invasion is good for, it's creating thousands of construction working jobs" would have been good enough for me

I despise spidey existing in his own cinematic universe when an already awesome kickass mcu already exists that he should be participating in

 

[Picard Sisko]

Congratulations

Why thank you, I really appreciate it. Thank you.

yes I can. like, I did, therefore I can. It's my opinion. Especially after all the talk of oscorp being in avengers, and there being an active mcu existing I want more than ever for spidey to exist in it and I always will.

something as simple as crane dad saying "If there's one thing an alien invasion is good for, it's creating thousands of construction working jobs" would have been good enough for me

I despise spidey existing in his own cinematic universe when an already awesome kickass mcu already exists that he should be participating in

The MCU is good for characters who wouldn't do so well in their own universe. Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, and Hulk aren't strong enough to survive without each other. Spider-Man can. It would be cool to see him interact with them at some point, but right now, I think he deserves his own cinematic universe.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Why thank you, I really appreciate it. Thank you.



The MCU is good for characters who wouldn't do so well in their own universe. Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, and Hulk aren't strong enough to survive without each other. Spider-Man can. It would be cool to see him interact with them at some point, but right now, I think he deserves his own cinematic universe.

hey man, iron man, the original film was proof enough that he would do fine in his own universe. and I stand by wat I said before about spidey's popularity having gone down by being so isolated. speaking of isolated, there's just an emptiness feelings that goes on when you bring up the fact that spidey is not in the rocking universe that all the marvel characters are playing in.

as well, batman and superman would have done fine in their respective universes, but if other film studios owned them instead of warner bros, a justice league film would definitely be shoddy in comparison to avengers

 

[Picard Sisko]

The first Iron Man film was a good origin story, but I don't think that's enough for a character like him. He has a terrible Rogue's Gallery and not many great stories worth putting on screen. Once his origin has been told, there isn't all that much to do with his character IMO. That's why I think its important for him to be in the MCU, so he can be part of something bigger/larger.

Spider-Man has plenty of solo stores to tell that are worth putting on screen. It would be cool for him to be in the MCU, but he doesn't NEED to be.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

The first Iron Man film was a good origin story, but I don't think that's enough for a character like him. He has a terrible Rogue's Gallery and not many great stories worth putting on screen. Once his origin has been told, there isn't all that much to do with his character IMO. That's why I think its important for him to be in the MCU, so he can be part of something bigger/larger.

Spider-Man has plenty of solo stores to tell that are worth putting on screen. It would be cool for him to be in the MCU, but he doesn't NEED to be.

i get that spidey has a lot of solo stories to tell but I disagree that he does not NEED to be in the mcu; he does. with everything happening the mcu and them moving with the story it doesn't seem fitting to NOT have spiderman there, it just gives the feeling that something is missing, and this is found moreso in asm. oscorp in avengers would have helped a TON.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I think Spider-Man will only NEED to be in the MCU when they want to tell a Secret Wars or Civil War storyline. Its a bigger loss to the MCU than it is for Spidey IMO.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I think Spider-Man will only NEED to be in the MCU when they want to tell a Secret Wars or Civil War storyline. Its a bigger loss to the MCU than it is for Spidey IMO.

nah man, the mcu is doing fine without spidey, it is the other way around (avengers doing 1.5 bill while asm is the lowest grossing spiderman film ever)

wasn't the rumor going around that thanos was supposed to be the villain in avengers 2 and the civil war was gonna be avengers 3? and they changed it seeing as how they couldn't work a way of writing civil war without spidey or couldn't reach an agreement with sony so they instead made thanos the avengers 3 villain and rewrote avengers 2

 

[Picard Sisko]

nah man, the mcu is doing fine without spidey, it is the other way around (avengers doing 1.5 bill while asm is the lowest grossing spiderman film ever)

wasn't the rumor going around that thanos was supposed to be the villain in avengers 2 and the civil war was gonna be avengers 3? and they changed it seeing as how they couldn't work a way of writing civil war without spidey or couldn't reach an agreement with sony so they instead made thanos the avengers 3 villain and rewrote avengers 2

You're missing the point. This isn't about box office. And once again, The Amazing Spider-Man was less successful than the previous SM film for many reasons, mostly being a "quick reboot." Considering how much was going against it, it did quite well.

Not sure about any of those Thanos rumors… sounds like baloney.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

You're missing the point. This isn't about box office. And once again, The Amazing Spider-Man was less successful than the previous SM film for many reasons, mostly being a "quick reboot." Considering how much was going against it, it did quite well.

Not sure about any of those Thanos rumors… sounds like baloney.

okay but I want to know where you're coming from so help me out. and as far box office goes, mos was also a reboot (albeit not as quick as asm but still pretty proximate) and look at it, it has become the highest grossing superman film ever. so there's that for ya

i'm gonna have to believe that part of the reason asm grossed low besides being a reboot is because it's not participating in marvel's onscreen legacy.

and as far as the thanos rumors go, here:

 

[Picard Sisko]

Superman had not been on the big screen for decades, so it makes more sense as to why people would be more open to a Superman reboot. Once again, YOU CAN'T COMPARE.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Superman had not been on the big screen for decades, so it makes more sense as to why people would be more open to a Superman reboot. Once again, YOU CAN'T COMPARE.

...wat?! the last time superman was on the bigscreen was in 2006, 7 years before mos, so YES I CAN COMPARE.

EDIT: I just realized I didn't see your post here that addressed this first, but here's the thing: yes asm grossed more (and that may just be because it was a better film), BUT, mos became the highest grossing superman film EVER whereas it is backwards for asm.

and that may just be because
a. spiderman is overall a more popular superhero than superman and
b. the bar is set higher for spiderman on the big screen than supes