The Amazing Spider-Man *Update* Your Rating for TASM

[Senator Pleasury]

yeah but I don't care because there wouldn't have been movies if the comics weren't there first. as well, spiderman coexists with several supervillains in his cinematic universe simultaneously so there's no reason he can't also coexist with other superheroes, as the marvel cinematic universe marvelously displays.

spidey belongs in there.

Well, superheroes must coexist with their enemies in whatever version. As they coexist with other characters so there can be a story. That has nothing to do with him coexisting with other superheroes. I mean, it could be done, but that alone wouldn't make any movie better or worse; it would depend on the execution, not the mere premise.

 

[Picard Sisko]

spiderman wasn't in his own universe in the comics. he was part of the whole marvel universe and cinematically he should be too.

The characters all co-existed, but they had their very own individual storylines. Most of the crossovers took place in "Marvel Team-Up," but otherwise they were all separate.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Well, superheroes must coexist with their enemies in whatever version. As they coexist with other characters so there can be a story. That has nothing to do with him coexisting with other superheroes. I mean, it could be done, but that alone wouldn't make any movie better or worse; it would depend on the execution, not the mere premise.

it has everything to do with him coexisting with other superheroes. spiderman's rogue's galleries have crossed paths with other superheroes in the comics, and I disagree that it wouldn't make the movie better; it would. Simply establishing spidey's presence in the mcu is a step up.

The characters all co-existed, but they had their very own individual storylines. Most of the crossovers took place in "Marvel Team-Up," but otherwise they were all separate.

it's fine for them having individual storylines, I just think it needs to be shown that whatever happens in the marvel world also happens in spidey's, meaning he is in that world.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I think it would be cool to get some easter eggs, but Spidey doesn't really have to be a part of the MCU for me to like his movies. Though I do wish that Oscorp tower made it into the Avengers skyline.

 

[Senator Pleasury]

it has everything to do with him coexisting with other superheroes. spiderman's rogue's galleries have crossed paths with other superheroes in the comics, and I disagree that it wouldn't make the movie better; it would. Simply establishing spidey's presence in the mcu is a step up.

How?

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

How?

because an mcu without spiderman is like a dccu without batman. can you picture them doing a jla without batman as at least part of that universe? i get they did avengers without spidey even being a part of it, but it is my opinion that having spidey in a universe with multiple supervillains and him isolated as the only known superhero gives the franchise a very emptiness feeling.

i say the same about them not bringing in christian bale for the dccu and ignoring nolan's batman trilogy now that it is over.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I think it would be cool to get some easter eggs, but Spidey doesn't really have to be a part of the MCU for me to like his movies. Though I do wish that Oscorp tower made it into the Avengers skyline.

I agree with all you said, except for the part of mcu spidey not being in mcu doesn't make asm a bad film but it would have made it better and that's where we differ

 

[Picard Sisko]

Haha if you feel that way, that's fine.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

yes indeed. and i realize that these films will make money regardless of whether or not he is present in the mcu but... is it just me that spiderman on film just feels... odd not being there with the rest of marvel? arguably the lesser known superheroes are just as well known and spidey now and iron man has bested him in popularity

 

[Picard Sisko]

I feel that Spider-Man is fine without the MCU, but the MCU feels empty without its flagship character.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I feel that Spider-Man is fine without the MCU, but the MCU feels empty without its flagship character.

you mean that the films/story/plot are better without any mcu influence? or that the franchise is better off separated?

coz i can't agree there either, it's clear that asm wasn't widely popular or acclaimed although it was successful.

but you're right, the problem is more seen the other way around; mcu feels empty without spiderman.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Yet you gave Iron Man 3 a rating of 4/5? You criticized TASM for changing the dynamics of the Spider-Man mythos, yet that's pretty much the same thing Iron Man 3 did.

Iron Man 3 was a different case for me. I will agree with everyone that the Mandarin as presented in IM3 doesn't resemble his comic counterpart in the least and they made drastic changes to the source material. Difference for me is, I felt Killian served the theme of the story and was a far more effective villain. Honestly, I took more issue with Stark removing the shrapnel at the end more than I did the rest of the movie (makes one wonder why he didn't do that years ago). If you take out the fact he is the Mandarin, he is an interesting villain. On the other hand, Curt Connors in this movie wasn't even smart enough to leave his sewer lab without putting his evil plan on a loop. That and while IM3 had points that don't make much sense, it didn't do anything as absurd as the crane sequence. So yes, I enjoyed IM3 much more. Don't care if that is an unpopular opinion to many.

 

[Picard Sisko]

An opinion is an opinion. You respect mine, I'll respect yours. TASM had some head scratching moments, but so did IM3. Why did Tony Stark tell the world his home address? Why didn't he at least find a way to defend his house before the attack? Seems like the guy doesn't learn anything from his experience as Iron Man, but oh well. And honestly, I just found the movie to be really boring. I kept looking at my watch waiting for the film to end. The humor felt forced, and Killian turning out to be the 'real mandarin' was lame to me. I enjoyed TASM a hell of a lot more, but if you liked IM3 that much, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

people had to have enjoyed it, it's the highest grossing film of 2013 so far

 

[Spider-Fan]

An opinion is an opinion. You respect mine, I'll respect yours. TASM had some head scratching moments, but so did IM3. Why did Tony Stark tell the world his home address? Why didn't he at least find a way to defend his house before the attack? Seems like the guy doesn't learn anything from his experience as Iron Man, but oh well. And honestly, I just found the movie to be really boring. I kept looking at my watch waiting for the film to end. The humor felt forced, and Killian turning out to be the 'real mandarin' was lame to me. I enjoyed TASM a hell of a lot more, but if you liked IM3 that much, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Likewise. I respect your opinion. I just don't agree with it, lol!

 

[ironman29758]

seeing the Amazing Spider-Man again, I have to give it 7.8 out of 10.

I like how they developed the characters and set up subplots for the sequels. Yes scenes like Peter seeing his uncle Ben's corpse on the sidewalk was better(I even like the deleted/unused version of Martin Sheen Uncle Ben's death was better than what was used in the final draft). I felt like some of the deleted scenes should have been kept in like when Dr.Connors came to comfort Peter after his Uncle Ben's death, Lizard killing Dr.Ratha, Dr.Connors talking to Billy among a few others.

Although I like how TASM dealt with the reaction to the Uncle Ben's death in the aftermath like Peter being unable to listen to Uncle Ben's last words/voice message and deal with the immediate aftermath . I also like how they tried to make due without using the whole great power comes great responsibility speech by doing an almost complete adaptation of this scene:

I enjoyed how they portrayed Spidey's humor that did feel Spider-Man like(not just the car thief/his first swing when trying to escape the police but also scenes like "Okay so you don't want talk. There you go" when webbing Lizard's mouth, throwing books at the Lizard when dodging his attacks in the Library/Stan Lee scene, "yeah it got a hell of a bite" to Gwen, etc). I still am a fan of Spider-Man 1 and thought it was a great on screen adaption of Amazing Fantasy#15 with elements of the Ultimate series but honestly it has it's fair share of flaws. Honestly they both hold up as a good movie in their own way.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I think the main thing holding TASM1 back is the lack of a good villain and numerous unresolved plot points. Otherwise it was a great introduction to a new film universe.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

I still wish they would have went with Electro first, then did something like Lizard/Kraven. I wish they had built up Dr. Connors and Peter's relationship more.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I think Electro is sequel worthy as long as he is given a good backstory. In the comics I much prefer Lizard over him as a character, but I think there are more possibilities with Electro theatrically. However, I do wish that Dr. Connors had more development in TASM1.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

I wish he had more too. One thing that bugged me was the fact that his family was nonexistent. That's something I wish they had done, much like the 90's animated series.

 

[Picard Sisko]

It would have been cool to see the Lizard attacking his family instead of trying to turn everyone else into Lizards.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I think the main thing holding TASM1 back is the lack of a good villain and numerous unresolved plot points. Otherwise it was a great introduction to a new film universe.

I also thought peter parker felt a bit too jittery. although garfield did a better acting job than tobey macguire. other than that, it was a great introduction to the new film universe.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I liked how Peter stuttered when talking to people. Really showed how uncomfortable he was in social situations, and its something I can relate to. Though it seems like he gained a lot more confidence by the second film and we probably won't be seeing anymore of that in the sequel.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I liked how Peter stuttered when talking to people. Really showed how uncomfortable he was in social situations, and its something I can relate to. Though it seems like he gained a lot more confidence by the second film and we probably won't be seeing anymore of that in the sequel.

it's one thing to stutter, but he literally moved around in an odd way just seemed a bit overacted to me. like, he even did that with his aunt may, and that's not a social situation he should feel uncomfortable in even if it is a subject he's hiding something when they are conversing.

 

[Picard Sisko]

People with forms of social anxiety or social disorders can feel uncomfortable even with their own family members that they are close with.