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I do have 2 criticisms:

1) Quicksilver's scene was brilliant. Just oddly placed. We had this great dramatic showdown and then everything switched to goofy. Too weird of a combo.

I didnt like it bc it was a rehash of the last movie. Obviously the circumstances was different but the it didnt have the same novelty. They saw the good reaction that got and decided to repeat it and make it even more exagerated. It also went on for way too long.
 
Just saw it and this was not a good film. Its getting panned and it deserves it. Its ironic how Singer threw shade at The Last Stand with Jean's line about the third film not being as good when this is easily the worst of the current trilogy. Like TLS, this film was all about having great action sequences and set pieces but the actual plot was weak. Apocalypse gets points though bc the characters were written better and the actors helped make up for alot of its shortcomings.

If I had to score it, Id give it a 6. I kind of regret seeing it as this could have waited till a home release
I took the meta refrence about the 3rd movie as less shade directed at Last Stand and more of a situation where they were poking fun at themselves.
 
I took the meta refrence about the 3rd movie as less shade directed at Last Stand and more of a situation where they were poking fun at themselves.

so he knew it would suck compared to FC and DOFP? Nah, I think it was shade at TLS bc it isnt the first time its been done. Even the actors and FOX have
 
X-Men: Apocalypse
Rotten Tomatoes 48%
IMDB 7.6
My Rating 6/10 (or maybe 5.5)

As a fan of the X-Men, I was looking forward to this. However, I knew it wasn't going to surpass Days of Future Past so I kept my expectations kind of low.

I started collecting the X-Men title in 1982 and later spinoffs like X-Factor which included the first appearance of Apocalypse, and from that I realized this was going to be a very difficult character to adapt to the screen in a successful manner. The more inhuman a character, the harder it is to escape it coming off as totally campy, cheezy, old B-grade sci-fi stuff. This is why characters like Loki and Magneto will always trump the likes of Ultron, Apocalypse (and probably Thanos), because the audience will always relate better to human faces and the emotions they can convey.

Anyway, while I love ancient Egypt and the visual aspect of that origin scene, I did not like this Apocalypse character adaptation at all, nor the choice of Horsemen (except perhaps Angel -that's classic) being Storm and Psylocke who were so badly done. The overall story was weak and generic, a run-of-the-mill comics plot of the big, bad, one-dimensional villain who wants to destroy the world and rule the survivors. While that works sometimes, it requires a much stronger script than anything Simon Kinberg could write. The Wolverine scene was a crazy insertion of the Weapon X storyline and seemed misplaced -something that should have been saved for another film entirely. It's almost like they feel they can't have an X-Men film without at least some Wolverine in it, so they forced it in and added to the character bloat. That should have been on the cutting room floor to reduce the film time down from 2.5 hours.

For these things I would tend to give the film an average or even below average score, but there are a few strong positives that push it slightly above that:


  • Bryan Singer's skill as a director gave us some visually-interesting shots, decent drama and character acting.
  • I was very pleased to see Sophie Turner as the new Jean Grey -she did a great job as well as a few excellent actors reprising their roles from the last two: James McAvoy, Michael Fassbender and Jennifer Lawrence as Prof X, Magneto and Mystique respectively --I especially appreciate the latter wearing her human face a little more. And it was also great to see Quicksilver back for some comic relief-- particularly in saving people from the mansion explosion!
  • Special FX and art were also well-done.
I enjoyed most of this film, but in the final reckoning it is certainly not "great" and this is undoubtedly one of the weaker movies in the franchise which I would rank in the bottom half of it so far.
 
They're just Death, Pestilence, War and Famine. No specific character from any comic or cartoon...

I kind of wish that they put Ichisumi, Abyss, Sugar Man and Holocaust as three of the four Horsemen in the past. It's not like Fox will ever use them again. The only way that I can see them ever appearing on the big screen now is if Fox and Disney agree to an Age of Apocalypse crossover which I don't ever see happening since if there ever was some sort of film event to merge universes and put the X-Men and Avengers in the same universe, they'd probably do Secret Wars 3 or House of M since Age of Apocalypse would be incredibly dark and almost certainly rated R. For a film with perhaps the single biggest budget of all time where the profits would be split 50/50, I can't see that happening.
 
Just saw X-Men: Apocalypse. While it is far from a flawless movie, it is certainly far better than its RT score indicates. I was expecting Man of Steel - a good movie that completely falls apart at the end in mindless action. And I'm not going to say the ending was good. It wasn't. It felt like they ran out of ideas on where the action should go after Psylocke chopped a car in half. After the horsemen were taken out, it wasn't particularly interesting or well-correographed. It ended up mindless CGI. But the specific beats of who was doing what were important and I thought the movie recovered after the battle for a solid ending. I also thought the rest of the movie was quite good.

The only other real complaint I have is that I thought the ADR work hurt Apocalypse. I don't think they planned to do his voice in post production. I won't necessarily go as far as to say the fan backlash caused it. I think a very viable explanation is simply that his suit does squeek and they couldn't hear it. But if you watch the movie, you'll see that 90% of Oscar Isaac's lines are delivered in reaction shots. You barely see him speaking on screen. I think that has to hurt an actor's ability to make an impression.

Everything else I'd complain about are just failure to live up to potential. I thouht the new cast was wonderful, they just didn't have as much of an opportunity to an impact. But I'm really excited where they'll go in the future. This is especially true of Nightcrawler and Storm. I thought they did a fantastic job with what they had. Overall, I thought it was an enjoyable movie. It probably could have used a bit of polishing, but it didn't deserve to get a lower score than the Last Stand. Hell, I'd probably put it above The Wolverine and that movie has the same criticism about falling apart.
 
Just watched it with the family. They absolutely loved it. I thought it was good. Nowhere near DoFP, X2, or XMFC, but a decent film. I'm really surprised at the mixed reviews it's getting and how anyone can say X3 is better is a head scratcher.

Solid 7/10 for me.
 
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just got back from the movie.

it was good. better than I thought it would be based on the critics.

but I do think it's time to wrap up this X-Men franchise. indeed, in this film, it almost felt like it has come full circle given certain pieces of dialogue between Xavier and Magneto.
 
just got back from the movie.

it was good. better than I thought it would be based on the critics.

but I do think it's time to wrap up this X-Men franchise. indeed, in this film, it almost felt like it has come full circle given certain pieces of dialogue between Xavier and Magneto.

Apocalypse's box office may cause franchise to be rebooted.so wolverine solo film could be end of series as it has exsisted.
 
Whatever you say to keep your agenda going right?

I don't want it to be rebooted but knowing hollywood studios i can see writing on the wall.many here would support reboot.i may be only one or one of few only ones who wouldn't.
 
just got back from the movie.

it was good. better than I thought it would be based on the critics.

but I do think it's time to wrap up this X-Men franchise. indeed, in this film, it almost felt like it has come full circle given certain pieces of dialogue between Xavier and Magneto.

I agree. I'd like to see the next film put Xavier, Mystique and Beast in supporting roles and reduce Magneto to a cameo.

Stick to the new cast + Gambit, Wolverine and possibly also Rogue with the next film.
 
I agree. I'd like to see the next film put Xavier, Mystique and Beast in supporting roles and reduce Magneto to a cameo.

Stick to the new cast + Gambit, Wolverine and possibly also Rogue with the next film.

for all the moaning about contunity you want to create even more by putting rogue with new cast.Gambit is suspose to be set in present.and only way
Wolverine will ever be in X-men film again is with reboot or recasting.
 
I agree. I'd like to see the next film put Xavier, Mystique and Beast in supporting roles and reduce Magneto to a cameo.

Stick to the new cast + Gambit, Wolverine and possibly also Rogue with the next film.

or. don't even make a new movie and just reboot the whole thing once Marvel gets the rights back ( or can share it like Spider-Man ).

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Apocalypse's box office may cause franchise to be rebooted.so wolverine solo film could be end of series as it has exsisted.

The end of this movie with the new X-Team of Cyclops, Storm, Jean, Beast, Quicksilver and Nightcrawler was assembled led by a younger Professor X.

That is your reboot right there.
 
I don't want it to be rebooted but knowing hollywood studios i can see writing on the wall.many here would support reboot.i may be only one or one of few only ones who wouldn't.

They're NOT going to get rid of Sophie Turner and the actors playing Cyclops, Nightcrawler, or Storm.

They're NOT going to dump McAvoy (and probably not Fassbender) or Evan Peters.

And they will probably still want J-Law providing she doesn't ask for stupid money.

This franchise needs a fresh focus rather than concentrating on the same characters and reducing the others to set decorations.
 
There isn't a need for reboot. The film ends at a place where another creative can come in completely fresh.
 
There isn't a need for reboot. The film ends at a place where another creative can come in completely fresh.

It also ends in a place where it gets some nice closure and brings things full circle. We will likely get another film but the way it ended, is satisfying enough that we dont need one
 
They're NOT going to get rid of Sophie Turner and the actors playing Cyclops, Nightcrawler, or Storm.

They're NOT going to dump McAvoy (and probably not Fassbender) or Evan Peters.

And they will probably still want J-Law providing she doesn't ask for stupid money.

This franchise needs a fresh focus rather than concentrating on the same characters and reducing the others to set decorations.

their are others who do.hench the wanting films to be set in present or return to X_men to disney.which X Knight already.

I don't care who makes films some need to accept some will get less focus than others.

Studios do reboot all the time.and with jackman one foot out the door there is nothing to stop a reboot with apocalypse's box office which under present projects defently won't hit 200 Million domestic.it may be lucy to hit 160 million domesticly.they gave more focus to cyclops and jean and it didn't help apocalypse at all.
 
back when First Class was announced, I really thought they would use that as an opportunity to reboot the prior films and do something closer to the comics where Jean, Scott, Angel, Beast, and Iceman ( with Storm added to have another female in the group ) were Xavier's 1st students - the First Class.
 
back when First Class was announced, I really thought they would use that as an opportunity to reboot the prior films and do something closer to the comics where Jean, Scott, Angel, Beast, and Iceman ( with Storm added to have another female in the group ) were Xavier's 1st students - the First Class.

its what they should have done. Even after FC came out, they could have done that minus Beast. But then DOFP came and firmly tied it to the old films
 
its what they should have done. Even after FC came out, they could have done that minus Beast. But then DOFP came and firmly tied it to the old films

and now the timeline/continuity is even more messed up......lol.
 
I finally got around to seeing this and I understand why the reactions have been mixed. I was underwhelmed but still really liked some parts.

On the most positive side I really like many of the new cast. Cyclops, Jean and Nightcrawler were very satisfying and Storm seems good as well, but her role didn't allow her to shine as much. This core makes me look forward to new X-Men movies where these get a more central role.

Xavier and Magneto are both played expertly, just like I've come to expect since First Class (and really throughout the entire franchise).

Quicksilver got even more absurdly overpowered in this movie, but I do like his character here so it still felt like a positive step.

The biggest flaw of this movie is Apocalypse for me. He was downright boring to me, never having anything interesting to say, nor really anything interesting to do. His powers didn't feel very interesting either and he didn't have that imposing presence that he has in the comics. I never quite got the choice of having his voice change all the time either. His scenes were consistently the worst for me.

His horsemen weren't great either, apart from Magneto. Storm started well but when she became a horseman her personality got suppressed, and neither Angel nor Psylocke got to be interesting at any point. This might have been less of an issue if Apocalypse could carry the scenes. Psylocke's comic costume was sadly one that didn't translate well to the screen. [BLACKOUT]Seeing the other horsemen get armor and her standing there in a bathing suit was really comical.[/BLACKOUT]

Overall I felt that the movie was largely mediocre and a bit dull, but it's kind of centered around the villain so there were certainly highlights in other parts throughout the movie. The thing that made me leave the theater with the most joy and hope was what happened in the last 10 minutes or so. From the point where [BLACKOUT]Jean goes Phoenix on Apocalypse[/BLACKOUT] and to the end the movie is an excellent X-Men movie. I so enjoyed everything in that span of time so if they can keep that for the next one it will be great.
 
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