WARNING: THIS POST HAS NOW BEEN EDITED TO CONTAIN SUMMARIES/SPOILERS (FROM LATER ON IN THE THREAD) FOR THE 3-PARTER, WITHOUT SPOILER TAGS!
"Foresight part 1"
"Foresight part 1" was fairly exciting. It's nice to see everything coming together.
There was only one edit: When "Senator Kelly" kicks Bolivar Trask, the bit where Trask's body comes to a halt and the workers in the background stare in horror at it, and look at "Senator Kelly", shocked, has been cut.
There's one thing I don't get: why couldn't Magneto use Blink to kidnap Senator Kelly? Why did he need Quicksilver when he could've used her?
I hope Marrow gets a chance to redeem herself since she and Vanisher escaped. I'm sure more of the future X-men escaped as well, though Bishop, Xavier and Domino were definitely captured.
The only member of the Inner Circle with a speaking role, both in this episode and the previous one, is Sebastian Shaw. For now, at least. And they didn't call the society either the Inner Circle or the Hellfire Club in this episode, while in "Shades of Grey", Shaw referred to it as the Inner Circle.
I was getting an evil vibe off Emma when she arrived at the manor headquarters of the Inner Circle, though that passed once she started behaving in a friendly manner towards Jean.
I suppose this could be the talkback thread for all 3 parts of "Foresight", but I'd prefer to hear a mod's thoughts on that first. Otherwise, I don't see the problem with just opening threads for episodes 25 and 26 as they air. Besides, the title of this thread is fixed in stone. I don't know of a way to change it (other than to ask a mod to).
"Foresight part 2"
"Foresight part 2" was even better than part 1, mainly because the Inner Circle/Phoenix plot line was actually advanced. "Foresight part 1" had done little more than explain what the Phoenix force was as far as this plot strand goes.
I'm starting to think that Magneto's story arc is advancing too slowly and should have gotten to this point before now, since he's been in lots of episodes this season but is only now showing his true colours. Also, I wasn't thrilled that Emma turned out to be good (it feels like a cop-out), and the only good member of the Inner Circle, because it makes me think of Justice League's "Starcrossed", which so far is much better than this 3-parter.
There are so many different plot lines in this 3-parter; I think things might have worked out better if one of them had been resolved sooner. I mean, we've had parts 1 and 2, and yet the Phoenix force has not yet been released.
Rogue, Iceman, Storm and Shadowcat have been silent throughout the last 3 or so episodes, and Nightcrawler didn't say a word in "Foresight part 2"; it's a pity that so many X-men are being sidelined, but that's what happens when the cast is so large.
I hope part 3 can pull everything together. I'm enjoying this 3-parter, but I'm concerned that part 3 won't be able to adequately tie up all the loose ends. This first season has been a decent one but even here, the show is still lacking in some ways. We need more intense fight scenes, better background music, to have all of the X-men do something, and to not have cameos of legends of the X-universe for the sake of cameos.
BTW, there were four edits in this episode:
The lightning flash that shows the "Cyclops" in Jean's mind to really be a Stepford Cuckoo posing as him has been cut. This one takes the cake as the most pointless edit I've seen the BBC make thus far.
The scene where future Wolverine and the X23 clones rescue Xavier is heavily edited. Firstly, the bit where Wolverine jumps down from the platform and unsheathes his claws has been cut.
Secondly, the fight scene between the X23 clones and the sentinels is massively toned down. Lots of close ups of X23's claws, the claws being unsheathed and certain attacks by the X23s on the sentinels have been cut.
Thirdly, the bit where future Wolverine lunges at Moss and grabs him, while his claws are unsheathed, has been cut.
Anyone know how we can get the thread title changed to Wolverine and the X-men: Episodes 24-26: "Foresight" parts 1-3: Official talkback (Spoilers!)?
"Foresight part 3"
Where to begin when talking about an episode like this...? With the edits, I suppose. There were 3 of them: 2 minor, 1 major. But don't worry, from the looks of things, nothing was cut from Emma's death scene. The edits were:
On to the episode itself: they really upped the ante here. It was a very good season finale, filled with plenty of interesting moments. I almost cheered when Marrow and Polaris came to the rescue of the future X-men and it was great that nearly all of the X-men had dialogue in this episode (the exceptions were Storm, Forge, Iceman and Tilde). LeLand and Pierce didn't speak in this episode or any of the previous ones either.
Learning the truth behind the explosion and how Xavier wound up on Genosha was great... We now know how the explosion was centred on Charles's position despite him not being the source. And from the sounds of things, all of the X-men were danger (not just Xavier and Jean) from that psychic attack. It's funny to think that Emma and the Cuckoos were just standing there in plain sight when the explosion happened... Now if only the writers would explain how Jean wound up at the hospital and why her memories deserted her temporarily. This had better be the real Jean.
The action and animation were better than usual, though it's odd to think that Nightcrawler and Shadowcat can take out the sentinels that easily. Why didn't Nightcrawler pull that stunt with the sentinel head in "Backlash"? A few other things confused me too. Why on earth would the Inner Circle (who were only called that in "Shades of Grey" and never once referred to as the Hellfire Club) want Genosha to be destroyed? I see where they're coming from when they say that they want rid of the sentinels, but why would Shaw and the others want Genosha destroyed?!
It was funny when Emma kissed Scott, only to be telekinetically attacked by Jean moments later. Scott staring at the falling diamond shards that were Emma, coupled with the sight of him alongside Apocalypse and Mr. Sinister at the end, suggests that he will turn evil in season 2. But why? Will he come to the realisation at some point that he loves Emma more than Jean and make a bargain with Apocalypse to resurrect her? Oh, and Apocalypses' design at the end of the episode was infinitely better than the awful one seen at the end of "Shades of Grey".
It's great that Wanda came to her senses, though slightly shocking that Polaris deserted Magneto. That's cool, though; it implies that she might become an X-man at some point, and it shows how reluctant she is to forgive her father for telling her about his dream all her life, and then betraying it like it meant nothing. I kind of wish that Quicksilver had deserted Magneto, but the Brotherhood's boring without him. It's nice that Blink showed up for a third time. I guess that means that we can expect to see her play a decent role in the Age of Apocalypse (as she should).
The notion of time-travelling is still messed up; it's implied that Master Mold (would have) successfully killed Xavier and the future X-men, but at the end of the episode, Xavier still remembers everything, even though that future is now erased. Does he remember his "death" (if Master Mold killed him), I wonder? Also, how come Master Mold no longer exists in the future as of the end of this episode, since "Backlash" ended with Master Mold out there, in the wilderness, and Master Mold could still be out there?
That moment between Wolverine and Rogue near the end was a bit awkward considering the fact that they've barely interacted since "Battle Lines", but it was a nice little moment. Lastly, I have to wonder if Jean's mother and sister are still alive in this show. Once again, we only saw John Grey in her mind.
Very good episode, and probably my favourite of the first season. Lots of stuff was going on and yet it didn't feel like anything/anyone was being wasted... Though I have to stress that it would be nice to see the Phoenix again (even though it looks like it's never coming back). It was a satisfying end to the season (though something tells me Emma shouldn't have been able to take down Sebastian and Selene so easily), and here's hoping season 2 will be more in line with the quality of this episode.
"Foresight part 1"
"Foresight part 1" was fairly exciting. It's nice to see everything coming together.
There was only one edit: When "Senator Kelly" kicks Bolivar Trask, the bit where Trask's body comes to a halt and the workers in the background stare in horror at it, and look at "Senator Kelly", shocked, has been cut.
There's one thing I don't get: why couldn't Magneto use Blink to kidnap Senator Kelly? Why did he need Quicksilver when he could've used her?
I hope Marrow gets a chance to redeem herself since she and Vanisher escaped. I'm sure more of the future X-men escaped as well, though Bishop, Xavier and Domino were definitely captured.
The only member of the Inner Circle with a speaking role, both in this episode and the previous one, is Sebastian Shaw. For now, at least. And they didn't call the society either the Inner Circle or the Hellfire Club in this episode, while in "Shades of Grey", Shaw referred to it as the Inner Circle.
I was getting an evil vibe off Emma when she arrived at the manor headquarters of the Inner Circle, though that passed once she started behaving in a friendly manner towards Jean.
I suppose this could be the talkback thread for all 3 parts of "Foresight", but I'd prefer to hear a mod's thoughts on that first. Otherwise, I don't see the problem with just opening threads for episodes 25 and 26 as they air. Besides, the title of this thread is fixed in stone. I don't know of a way to change it (other than to ask a mod to).
"Foresight part 2"
"Foresight part 2" was even better than part 1, mainly because the Inner Circle/Phoenix plot line was actually advanced. "Foresight part 1" had done little more than explain what the Phoenix force was as far as this plot strand goes.
I'm starting to think that Magneto's story arc is advancing too slowly and should have gotten to this point before now, since he's been in lots of episodes this season but is only now showing his true colours. Also, I wasn't thrilled that Emma turned out to be good (it feels like a cop-out), and the only good member of the Inner Circle, because it makes me think of Justice League's "Starcrossed", which so far is much better than this 3-parter.
There are so many different plot lines in this 3-parter; I think things might have worked out better if one of them had been resolved sooner. I mean, we've had parts 1 and 2, and yet the Phoenix force has not yet been released.
Rogue, Iceman, Storm and Shadowcat have been silent throughout the last 3 or so episodes, and Nightcrawler didn't say a word in "Foresight part 2"; it's a pity that so many X-men are being sidelined, but that's what happens when the cast is so large.
I hope part 3 can pull everything together. I'm enjoying this 3-parter, but I'm concerned that part 3 won't be able to adequately tie up all the loose ends. This first season has been a decent one but even here, the show is still lacking in some ways. We need more intense fight scenes, better background music, to have all of the X-men do something, and to not have cameos of legends of the X-universe for the sake of cameos.
BTW, there were four edits in this episode:
The lightning flash that shows the "Cyclops" in Jean's mind to really be a Stepford Cuckoo posing as him has been cut. This one takes the cake as the most pointless edit I've seen the BBC make thus far.
The scene where future Wolverine and the X23 clones rescue Xavier is heavily edited. Firstly, the bit where Wolverine jumps down from the platform and unsheathes his claws has been cut.
Secondly, the fight scene between the X23 clones and the sentinels is massively toned down. Lots of close ups of X23's claws, the claws being unsheathed and certain attacks by the X23s on the sentinels have been cut.
Thirdly, the bit where future Wolverine lunges at Moss and grabs him, while his claws are unsheathed, has been cut.
Anyone know how we can get the thread title changed to Wolverine and the X-men: Episodes 24-26: "Foresight" parts 1-3: Official talkback (Spoilers!)?
"Foresight part 3"
Where to begin when talking about an episode like this...? With the edits, I suppose. There were 3 of them: 2 minor, 1 major. But don't worry, from the looks of things, nothing was cut from Emma's death scene. The edits were:
- Domino charging towards the screen, firing both of her guns like crazy.
- A bit just before we see Xavier take cover, where he’s running for cover with his head turned, looking back and shooting at a sentinel that’s pursuing him and trying to blast him.
- MAJOR EDIT HERE: The bit where Logan approaches Emma and she asks him to trust her has been heavily edited. I can’t understand the non-english version, but we see Logan yelling at her and putting his hand beneath her diamond head, then unsheathing two of his claws (not the middle one). Obviously, the two claws don’t touch Emma, but it’s clear that if he unsheathes the middle one, it will kill her. He then walks away and she says something that makes him turn around (in the BBC version, you only see him turning around). Can someone who’s seen this scene in one of the countries that got the whole season last year please provide a translation of this scene?
On to the episode itself: they really upped the ante here. It was a very good season finale, filled with plenty of interesting moments. I almost cheered when Marrow and Polaris came to the rescue of the future X-men and it was great that nearly all of the X-men had dialogue in this episode (the exceptions were Storm, Forge, Iceman and Tilde). LeLand and Pierce didn't speak in this episode or any of the previous ones either.
Learning the truth behind the explosion and how Xavier wound up on Genosha was great... We now know how the explosion was centred on Charles's position despite him not being the source. And from the sounds of things, all of the X-men were danger (not just Xavier and Jean) from that psychic attack. It's funny to think that Emma and the Cuckoos were just standing there in plain sight when the explosion happened... Now if only the writers would explain how Jean wound up at the hospital and why her memories deserted her temporarily. This had better be the real Jean.
The action and animation were better than usual, though it's odd to think that Nightcrawler and Shadowcat can take out the sentinels that easily. Why didn't Nightcrawler pull that stunt with the sentinel head in "Backlash"? A few other things confused me too. Why on earth would the Inner Circle (who were only called that in "Shades of Grey" and never once referred to as the Hellfire Club) want Genosha to be destroyed? I see where they're coming from when they say that they want rid of the sentinels, but why would Shaw and the others want Genosha destroyed?!
It was funny when Emma kissed Scott, only to be telekinetically attacked by Jean moments later. Scott staring at the falling diamond shards that were Emma, coupled with the sight of him alongside Apocalypse and Mr. Sinister at the end, suggests that he will turn evil in season 2. But why? Will he come to the realisation at some point that he loves Emma more than Jean and make a bargain with Apocalypse to resurrect her? Oh, and Apocalypses' design at the end of the episode was infinitely better than the awful one seen at the end of "Shades of Grey".
It's great that Wanda came to her senses, though slightly shocking that Polaris deserted Magneto. That's cool, though; it implies that she might become an X-man at some point, and it shows how reluctant she is to forgive her father for telling her about his dream all her life, and then betraying it like it meant nothing. I kind of wish that Quicksilver had deserted Magneto, but the Brotherhood's boring without him. It's nice that Blink showed up for a third time. I guess that means that we can expect to see her play a decent role in the Age of Apocalypse (as she should).
The notion of time-travelling is still messed up; it's implied that Master Mold (would have) successfully killed Xavier and the future X-men, but at the end of the episode, Xavier still remembers everything, even though that future is now erased. Does he remember his "death" (if Master Mold killed him), I wonder? Also, how come Master Mold no longer exists in the future as of the end of this episode, since "Backlash" ended with Master Mold out there, in the wilderness, and Master Mold could still be out there?
That moment between Wolverine and Rogue near the end was a bit awkward considering the fact that they've barely interacted since "Battle Lines", but it was a nice little moment. Lastly, I have to wonder if Jean's mother and sister are still alive in this show. Once again, we only saw John Grey in her mind.
Very good episode, and probably my favourite of the first season. Lots of stuff was going on and yet it didn't feel like anything/anyone was being wasted... Though I have to stress that it would be nice to see the Phoenix again (even though it looks like it's never coming back). It was a satisfying end to the season (though something tells me Emma shouldn't have been able to take down Sebastian and Selene so easily), and here's hoping season 2 will be more in line with the quality of this episode.
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This is X-men, not anime! I really thought I could find Canadas version of episode 20, but I cant. Its now impossible to tell which episode is which, unless mentioned, which isn't. I hope people from Canada havent decided to stop uploading 
I really want to watch the unedited version of the last three episodes.
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