V For Vendetta Box Office Tracking Thread

[Nivek]

A.) V for Vendetta is not meant to be a blockbuster. I never had the notion that it would break records. However, 'V' like 'Sin City' before it, will be a moderate hit (for a March) but it's sucess will lie with it's critical raves.

Agreed, and like the $40 million Sin City, it's not a huge budgeted movie, so it's easier to establish as a hit.

B.) Is Larry suppose to be a Cable Guy...or a Health Inspector? Either way, the movie looked like rubbish!

It was crap, and maybe he did both jobs, he is a smelly Sanford Florida redneck after all. Still, I exspected it to do better than it did concidering the mindset of middle america, but I was happy to hear it premired in 7th place.

 

[Octoberist]

It's sad to see that he is 'representin' Flordia, flannel and all!

 

[Nivek]

It's sad to see that he is 'representin' Flordia, flannel and all!

It's either him or Jeb Bush as our posterboy, I'll go for the guy who smells like right guard and fish bait. Thats Larry for those who dont know...

 

[Darthphere]

It's either him or Jeb Bush as our posterboy, I'll go for the guy who smells like right guard and fish bait. Thats Larry for those who dont know...

Elian Gonzalez is a better represenatative for our great state of Florida.

 

[ultimatefan]

With the recent result, V has pretty much paid its production budget in two weekends, which is a pretty good result. It should be about as successful as Sin City. USA and UK are probably the toughest markets for the movie, due to the controversy over the terrorism theme. It should do well in most territories.

 

[GL's Light]

With the recent result, V has pretty much paid its production budget in two weekends, which is a pretty good result. It should be about as successful as Sin City. USA and UK are probably the toughest markets for the movie, due to the controversy over the terrorism theme. It should do well in most territories.

That's not the way box office receipts work. The studio only gets roughly half of the box office take, and that has to cover the costs incurred by the production, marketing and distribution of the film.

The total cost incurred on V for Vendetta is probably around $ 85-90 million. That means its breakeven point is somewhere around $ 170-180 million worldwide. It'll likely still be in the red at the end of its theatrical run. But it should turn a profit after its DVD revenues roll in.

 

[superion]

That's not the way box office receipts work. The studio only gets roughly half of the box office take, and that has to cover the costs incurred by the production, marketing and distribution of the film.

The total cost incurred on V for Vendetta is probably around $ 85-90 million. That means its breakeven point is somewhere around $ 170-180 million worldwide. It'll likely still be in the red at the end of its theatrical run. But it should turn a profit after its DVD revenues roll in.
Today 07:33 PM

Glad someone pointed that out. If the measure of a movies success was simply taking the gross receipts and subtracting the budget 90% of the movies released would make money.

As for V I think it will top out at about $75 mill in the US which takes it halfway to breakeven. The foreign gross will determine whether it is a success or not. It's opening in Britain is pretty dissappointing for a "British" movie so I'am not sure it will make another $75 mill worldwide. We will have to see what the 2nd weeks foreign gross will be.

Of course this is assuming a advertising budget of only $20 mill or so. Unforunately BO mojo no longer gives this number.

 

['V']

not enough TV spots for this film me thinks

 

[Nivek]

Are you people studio number crunchers? accountants? It's doing fine, sheesh.

Hell, when you really think about, it is a rare thing in the entertainment industry an investment returns 100% of profit back to the studio. This film has such a modest budget, it will be easier to get a profit back, and hopefully we will see a special edition DVD sooner than later.

 

[GL's Light]

Are you people studio number crunchers? accountants? It's doing fine, sheesh.

Hell, when you really think about, it is a rare thing in the entertainment industry an investment returns 100% of profit back to the studio. This film has such a modest budget, it will be easier to get a profit back, and hopefully we will see a special edition DVD sooner than later.

We're discussing the box office, which is the specific intent of the thread. Now I'm a bit of a box office geek and if I'm going to discuss it I'm going to do so in accordance with the realities of the industry, and not just by throwing around fallacious assumptions. The film may end up doing fine and it may not. But how much you like or dislike a film really shouldn't have any bearing on a discussion of how it's performing commercially.

 

[TheVileOne]

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2006&wknd=12&p=.htm

Actuals. 52% dropoff for the second weekend. Any comments on me being FLAT OUT WRONG ThreeOfAKind.

The movie doesn't look to be doing all that hot overseas. Which kind of surprises me noting the cast and subject matter.

Basically, I guess you can say the movie is doing OK. HOWEVER, it is performing well below what just about everyone on these forums predicted it would. It doesn't seem to be making much of an impact that the raging reVolutionaries wanted it to either.

That ridiculous poll that said over 150 million, over 200 million, umm no. This is NOT X-men or Spider-man.

 

[ThreeOfAKind]

Actuals. 52% dropoff for the second weekend. Any comments on me being FLAT OUT WRONG ThreeOfAKind.

Yes, I was wrong on that point. However I wish you'd stop typing it in all caps like I was yelling at you, or to insinuate I typed it like that in the first place. I was approximately 4% off.

Mediocre weekend.

Next week will tell whether or not this movie will have a solid run or a bad one.

 

[HoratioRome]

as much as I love this movie I'm saddened by the fact that it hasn't done better. I'm dissapointed in the 50% drop off. Though I never expected V to be a block buster I thought for sure word of mouth would have helped it not drop off so much.
Problem is this movie will dissapoint many of the peopel/kids going to see the "latest action thriller". I heard a couple a kids make comments like "not enough action, too much dialogue".

There is a HUGE revolutionary anti Bush market which has not tapped into this movie yet. there is still hope that they will discover it an the movie will prove to have some legs.
I know I'm recommending it to everyone I know.

but the truth is that the true measure of success for V for Vendetta is not how much money it makes (we must remember the book wasn't a hot seller either).
It is rather the quality of the material.
in that sense V is a HUGE success which I'm sure the Wachowskies are happy with.

 

[TheVileOne]

Well the point of this thread is not the quality of the material, but the box office stats and reception .

HoratioRome, you know what a good deal of the mainstream audience thinks about the movie? Even the anti-Bush people? They can't get past the mask and think its clownish. GRANTED, this is a rather silly reason, but you know...that's the reality of it.

But just FYI guys, if this makes you feel better about the BO...for most comic book movies, this is pretty much the standard. A strong or decent opening weekend, and a 50% or more dropoff in the second weekend. It was the same for Hellboy, Constantine, Daredevil, and numerous others. The Spider-man movies are the RARE exceptions.

Outside of Spider-man and the X-men films, comic books films don't seem to have as much mainstream appeal with general moviegoing audiences. But even the X-men films still had sizeable dropoffs in their second weekends.

The problem was, you guys were just so rabid and hyped about this movie, you misjudged its BO potential. It happens, as it will happen again with Ghost Rider and its rabid fans .

 

[Cinemaman]

With the recent result, V has pretty much paid its production budget in two weekends, which is a pretty good result. It should be about as successful as Sin City. USA and UK are probably the toughest markets for the movie, due to the controversy over the terrorism theme. It should do well in most territories.

I think VFV will make really huge Box office in Japan.

 

[Cinemaman]

Glad someone pointed that out. If the measure of a movies success was simply taking the gross receipts and subtracting the budget 90% of the movies released would make money.

As for V I think it will top out at about $75 mill in the US which takes it halfway to breakeven. The foreign gross will determine whether it is a success or not. It's opening in Britain is pretty dissappointing for a "British" movie so I'am not sure it will make another $75 mill worldwide. We will have to see what the 2nd weeks foreign gross will be.

Of course this is assuming a advertising budget of only $20 mill or so. Unforunately BO mojo no longer gives this number.

I think it even will make $140-155m. in worldwide.

$50-65m in overseas will be enough.

But DVD will help VFV to make really big money.

 

[Cinemaman]

not enough TV spots for this film me thinks

There was only SB-spot, what you want?

And I don't think VFV needed tv-spots.

 

[Cinemaman]

as much as I love this movie I'm saddened by the fact that it hasn't done better. I'm dissapointed in the 50% drop off. Though I never expected V to be a block buster I thought for sure word of mouth would have helped it not drop off so much.
Problem is this movie will dissapoint many of the peopel/kids going to see the "latest action thriller". I heard a couple a kids make comments like "not enough action, too much dialogue".

There is a HUGE revolutionary anti Bush market which has not tapped into this movie yet. there is still hope that they will discover it an the movie will prove to have some legs.
I know I'm recommending it to everyone I know.

but the truth is that the true measure of success for V for Vendetta is not how much money it makes (we must remember the book wasn't a hot seller either).
It is rather the quality of the material.
in that sense V is a HUGE success which I'm sure the Wachowskies are happy with.

I think VFV is movie for critics, it should have more positive reviews to be success movie.

And also VFV isn't movie for box office, remember this.

But British critics don't think it is good movie, why? Because VFV says true. We should understamnd terrorist's point of view and only then we can judge him.

I think VFV is one of greatest movies with logical and philosophical senses.

Fight Club also was bad movie for critics, but now it is one of the greatest psychological thrillers ever.

I think critics are underestimating VFV. But then, after 4-5 years, everybody will say it was great movie.

 

[Octoberist]

V for Vendetta is not meant to be the next Spider-Man or X-Men. It's a self containted story with political themes. I bet you Warner Bros knew that it won't be a huge money maker, but hopefully, it's critical sucess can give it some longevity on DVD and perhaps, cult status.

 

[Cinemaman]

V for Vendetta is not meant to be the next Spider-Man or X-Men. It's a self containted story with political themes. I bet you Warner Bros knew that it won't be a huge money maker, but hopefully, it's critical sucess can give it some longevity on DVD and perhaps, cult status.

Again I will agree with you. But it also have negative reviews.

But I think the same situation was with fight Club.

Soon critics will say VFV was great movie.

But I think VFV have good raiting in Rotten Tomatoes.

 

[HoratioRome]

Well the point of this thread is not the quality of the material, but the box office stats and reception .

HoratioRome, you know what a good deal of the mainstream audience thinks about the movie? Even the anti-Bush people? They can't get past the mask and think its clownish. GRANTED, this is a rather silly reason, but you know...that's the reality of it.

But just FYI guys, if this makes you feel better about the BO...for most comic book movies, this is pretty much the standard. A strong or decent opening weekend, and a 50% or more dropoff in the second weekend. It was the same for Hellboy, Constantine, Daredevil, and numerous others. The Spider-man movies are the RARE exceptions.

Outside of Spider-man and the X-men films, comic books films don't seem to have as much mainstream appeal with general moviegoing audiences. But even the X-men films still had sizeable dropoffs in their second weekends.

The problem was, you guys were just so rabid and hyped about this movie, you misjudged its BO potential. It happens, as it will happen again with Ghost Rider and its rabid fans .

two points,

1. I did address the BO of the film
2. I NEVER said or even thought that V would be a huge BO success. It's not that kind of moive, subject, or book. (though I will admit I hoped it would do better than it's doing) I hope for a 40 million opening weekend and strong follow up.

Hey at least it's not a total failure like ultraviolet,....

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I liked the movie, but lets face facts, It's boxoffice run is over. It doesn't have Matrix like legs. Is the movie going to make money for the WB? Sure! But after that huge marketing push it's a big disappointment.

 

[Nivek]

I liked the movie, but lets face facts, It's boxoffice run is over. It doesn't have Matrix like legs. Is the movie going to make money for the WB? Sure! But after that huge marketing push it's a big disappointment.

Guess us "Bush Haters" really didn't come out in droves to see it, eh?

 

[Darthphere]

Again I will agree with you. But it also have negative reviews.

But I think the same situation was with fight Club.

Soon critics will say VFV was great movie.

But I think VFV have good raiting in Rotten Tomatoes.

All movies get bad reviews.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Guess not, Nivek.