WandaVision WandaVision General Discussion Thread

[DyeLorean]

Binge-watching has its charms. An entire season dropping at the same time and watching it on a weekend has that same feeling of reading a novel and being totally enthralled by it.
But on the other hand sometimes, I gotta admit, the weekly release schedule is still the best way to build investment. Specially something like WandaVision that is mainly a mystery show. Or at least a show that makes you wonder what's coming and you want to know what's next. Those are, for me, the best shows. It happened with Lost, it happened with Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. And so many others.
I'm pretty happy they're making us watch week-by-week. I wasn't sure when the show first started but now I'm hooked.

 

[pixen]

Yeah, I agree. The pace is pretty good. I think some people expect a huge thing to be unveiled at the end of every episode and when it doesn’t, some like to call it a weaker episode. I’m loving the reveals though and how each episode has been something magical. WandaVision is what I look forward to every week... it’s the magnet pulling me through all the less fun things during the week.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Randall Park appears in Young Rock.

 

[samsnee]

I probably would have skipped straight to the last couple of episodes if they had dropped all at once so appreciate the weekly schedule. Plus it makes discussing more fun as everyone is more or less on the same episode.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I am hoping to watch this week's episode but I don't know if blackouts will still occur on Friday. If not I will watch it on the weekend.

 

[Spideem]

I'm halfway through the Wednesday workday, and all I can think of is how tortuous the waits for the next episodes always are. Just gotta finish this day, get through Thursday, sleep, then wake up to see it...

 

[Albert1981]

I think in the first three episodes Wanda and Vision basically just talked about the same things in different decades. And I already got the picture after watching Episode one. I would have put the first THREE episodes of WandaVision together and then moved onto the current schedule. I don't think anybody would be complaining about that approach. Episode six disappointed me. I enjoyed it, but there was no payoff from Episode 5 (my favorite). Perhaps it's because I have no real familiarity with Malcolm in the Middle or any emotional attachment to it. I have to admit that ever since Episode 4, I've completely lost interest in what's going outside of Westview. It's become like a parody of action dramas such as 24 and they're full of cliches and contrivances. I liked Monica WAY more as Geraldine. She had a charming personality inside the Hex. Outside of it she does not. I thought Hayward was a pretty sympathetic character in Episode 4, but now the show is just portraying him as a dude whose primary motivation is a commitment to being evil. He could have been portrayed in a much more nuanced manner. I like what Olsen and Bettany are cooking INSIDE the Hex, however. And I lament the near total absence of Agnes and Dottie in the last few episodes.

 

[Hammer!]

I definitely preferred episode 6 to 5. Probably my favorite episode overall, although the second episode makes it close. 5 had a few big moments, but didn't really capture the 80s sitcom feel too well, was pretty claustrophobic, and the kids weren't all that interesting yet. Episode 6 gave us a dense look at a new character, got out of the house and explored Westview more, captured the decade better, had better character beats, more laughs, just an all around amazing episode that has this in pole position to be the best thing Marvel Studios has ever put out if they stick the landing.

If I had to rank 'em:
6
2
1
4
5
3

 

[Detective Conan]

CNET confirms WandaVison Will Have It’s Finale On March 5th.

 

[Hammer!]

This show truly is amazing so far. The riskiest adaptation I've seen from a DC/Marvel property in over ten years, maybe ever? Filming almost verbatim black and white sitcoms the first 2 episodes, having essentially zero action scenes 6 out of 9 episodes in. Those kind of decisions took a lot of stones and as far as the latter point, I don't think the majority of viewers have even noticed!

Couldn't be happier that this show has really exploded through the general public zeitgeist the past few weeks, it really deserves it. Can't wait for the finale to drop so I can binge the entire season to confirm my suspicion that this show is insanely dense and genius. Three episodes to stick a landing, but I think we're looking at the best season of Marvel/DC television of all-time folks.

 

[Albert1981]

I definitely preferred episode 6 to 5. Probably my favorite episode overall, although the second episode makes it close. 5 had a few big moments, but didn't really capture the 80s sitcom feel too well, was pretty claustrophobic, and the kids weren't all that interesting yet. Episode 6 gave us a dense look at a new character, got out of the house and explored Westview more, captured the decade better, had better character beats, more laughs, just an all around amazing episode that has this in pole position to be the best thing Marvel Studios has ever put out if they stick the landing.

If I had to rank 'em:
6
2
1
4
5
3

I liked 5 because of the acting. Plus, I loved that era of sitcoms. Although, it didn't capture the vibe of that time too well, I will concede. I just thought the acting was more dramatic. Vision and Norm and Vision and Wanda did some great acting in 5. Plus, I liked how they explained that death is not something that can be reversed. That kind of discussion is practically non-existent in the comic books. I also liked the intro theme song to the 80s episode the best too. I just felt Wanda was really upstaged and overshadowed in 6. I don't really remember what she actually did in that episode (except at the end), and no questions were answered in it. I felt 6 was done to set up 7. I enjoyed Vision's talk with Agnes though. I guess I was frustrated that Agnes has gotten less screen time than "Pietro" has thus far (even though I really liked Peters' performance). I'm just tired of waiting for the series to reveal who Agnes really is.

 

[Hammer!]

I liked 5 because of the acting. Plus, I loved that era of sitcoms. Although, it didn't capture the vibe of that time too well, I will concede. I just thought the acting was more dramatic. Vision and Norm and Vision and Wanda did some great acting in 5. Plus, I liked how they explained that death is not something that can be reversed. That kind of discussion is practically non-existent in the comic books. I also liked the intro theme song to the 80s episode the best too. I just felt Wanda was really upstaged and overshadowed in 6. I don't really remember what she actually did in that episode (except at the end), and no questions were answered in it. I felt 6 was done to set up 7. I enjoyed Vision's talk with Agnes though. I guess I was frustrated that Agnes has gotten less screen time than "Pietro" has thus far (even though I really liked Peters' performance). I'm just tired of waiting for the series to reveal who Agnes really is.

This was definitely the Pietro episode. Killing him off after one movie always irritated me. If they did that to Wanda in Ultron, like Pietro, we wouldn't find her too memorable or a big loss. But then we wouldn't see her develop into a better and better character until we finally see her character have the opportunity to lead such a fantastic series. It was such a waste, and the superspeed ability has been a noticeable absentee among the wide variety of superpowers in the Universe. Seeing him and Tommy utilize their powers felt like an ice cream shop having a rare, infrequent flavor of the week that you always wondered why they didn't just put it on the menu year round.

I also did love what they did with Agnes this episode. From wondering if she's friend or foe to more broad theorizing, " Why was she at Ellis Avenue? Was it because she knew Vision was there and she wanted to push him out because he might convince Wanda to stop? Did the big bad finally come into town incognito as Pietro so now she tried to get out of Dodge?

Jimmy and Monica busting up the guards and throwing on rain jackets to go incognito into a makeshift military base/tent made me swell up by giving me some major Kenneth Branagh Thor 1 vibes -- still one of my personal MCU faves.

 

[Albert1981]

This was definitely the Pietro episode. Killing him off after one movie always irritated me. If they did that to Wanda in Ultron, like Pietro, we wouldn't find her too memorable or a big loss. But then we wouldn't see her develop into a better and better character until we finally see her character have the opportunity to lead such a fantastic series. It was such a waste, and the superspeed ability has been a noticeable absentee among the wide variety of superpowers in the Universe. Seeing him and Tommy utilize their powers felt like an ice cream shop having a rare, infrequent flavor of the week that you always wondered why they didn't just put it on the menu year round.

I also did love what they did with Agnes this episode. From wondering if she's friend or foe to more broad theorizing, " Why was she at Ellis Avenue? Was it because she knew Vision was there and she wanted to push him out because he might convince Wanda to stop? Did the big bad finally come into town incognito as Pietro so now she tried to get out of Dodge?

Jimmy and Monica busting up the guards and throwing on rain jackets to go incognito into a makeshift military base/tent made me swell up by giving me some major Kenneth Branagh Thor 1 vibes -- still one of my personal MCU faves.

Oh yeah, there's many valid and legitimate reasons to like this episode. I think it is one of the better "sitcom" ones from the entire series and it did capture the spirit of Malcolm in the Middle really well. And the costumes were great. I think we're gonna get a speedster in Tommy in the not-too-distant future. But Marvel really sucks at writing speedsters, so I'm a little bit concerned about his future portrayals. And it was pretty funny. Would have liked to see more interaction between Wanda, Vision, Pietro and the twins but Vis had to go full Columbo. Agnes was GREAT in Episode 6, but I feel she wasn't on screen enough. She's gradually had less of a role as the show has gone on, and that frustrates me. I guess the Pietro stuff has less of an affect on me because he is not the MCU's original Quicksilver. Although I fully acknowledge that Peters' version is a more popular one in the public imagination. So Disney was absolutely right to bring him in. I'm just worried by doing that, the show might be even more confusing than it already is. They're running out of time to explain things to viewers.

 

[pixen]

Oh yeah, there's many valid and legitimate reasons to like this episode. I think it is one of the better "sitcom" ones from the entire series and it did capture the spirit of Malcolm in the Middle really well. And the costumes were great. I think we're gonna get a speedster in Tommy in the not-too-distant future. But Marvel really sucks at writing speedsters, so I'm a little bit concerned about his future portrayals. And it was pretty funny. Would have liked to see more interaction between Wanda, Vision, Pietro and the twins but Vis had to go full Columbo. Agnes was GREAT in Episode 6, but I feel she wasn't on screen enough. She's gradually had less of a role as the show has gone on, and that frustrates me. I guess the Pietro stuff has less of an affect on me because he is not the MCU's original Quicksilver. Although I fully acknowledge that Peters' version is a more popular one in the public imagination. So Disney was absolutely right to bring him in. I'm just worried by doing that, the show might be even more confusing than it already is. They're running out of time to explain things to viewers.

Disney doesn’t hate speedsters, they just couldn’t work with Quicksilver because of Fox. There were rumors saying Fox allowed them to use Wanda so they could use Quicksilver but who knows how real those are. Tommy is already moving fast, we got a second speedster. Just need to see if they both make it out of the hex.

Spoilers for episode 6

Spoiler

Wanda was in a good chunk of the episode. We saw the space between Wanda and Vision separate and that Vision is lying to Wanda about where he was going to be. There’s a lack of trust building there. While she wasn’t leading this episode, it was Peters and Visions episode. Which is fine. Not every episode has to be fully with and about Wanda. She’s still in there, learning and experiencing things.

 

[djsunyc]

the show moves fast bc there is zero filler. so many other shows seem bound to the one hour format but this show doesnt waste time on side characters or needless storylines. its whats going on in the hex between wanda and vision and what monica & gang are doing about it.

 

[Albert1981]

Disney doesn’t hate speedsters, they just couldn’t work with Quicksilver because of Fox. There were rumors saying Fox allowed them to use Wanda so they could use Quicksilver but who knows how real those are. Tommy is already moving fast, we got a second speedster. Just need to see if they both make it out of the hex.

Spoilers for episode 6

Spoiler

Wanda was in a good chunk of the episode. We saw the space between Wanda and Vision separate and that Vision is lying to Wanda about where he was going to be. There’s a lack of trust building there. While she wasn’t leading this episode, it was Peters and Visions episode. Which is fine. Not every episode has to be fully with and about Wanda. She’s still in there, learning and experiencing things.

Oh, I was talking about how the Marvel Comics printing division writes about speedsters. As I understand it, Pietro and Tommy barely show up in ANYTHING there these days. I think it's just hard to write about those kinds of characters because they're too OP. Maybe live-action will do a better job. I kind of get the feeling that only ONE Maximoff speedster gets out alive after this show.

Wanda was in a good chunk I agree. I just felt I didn't really learn too much about what she was feeling in that episode. I think it's because Peters is such a charismatic and charming actor and he was written as a somewhat arrogant alpha male. So he dominated the scenes between him and Wanda. As opposed to Vision, who's more humble, reserved and deferential to Wanda, which allows her more space to do her own thing. I mean, he's basically an over-anxious bumbling sitcom husband and dad at this point. Very different dynamics there.

 

[Albert1981]

the show moves fast bc there is zero filler. so many other shows seem bound to the one hour format but this show doesnt waste time on side characters or needless storylines. its whats going on in the hex between wanda and vision and what monica & gang are doing about it.

I prefer to watch what's going on inside the Hex as opposed to what's going on outside of it. It's more mysterious, surreal, and unsettling than things happening outside of Westview. There's just too much exposition going on outside of the Hex, and I wish Monica's fun-loving personality was preserved after she left it.

 

[Albert1981]

I'm not saying Parris is doing a bad job portraying Rambeau. I think she's doing great. But I'm disappointed that ever since Episode 4 she's yet to display an OUNCE of emotion. Her sudden sympathy for Wanda and Hayward's abrupt transformation into a heel feel rushed and unearned. That's why I think this series would be better off having EIGHT hours to flesh out the characters even more. Why can't the MCU do a better job of writing their female superheroes? I don't really like DCEU movies, because you know, I have half a brain. But I DO like their portrayal of female characters. I get their motivations and they're allowed to have personalities. I know it's not a big deal in the big scheme of things, but I was hoping by this point the women of the MCU would be more interesting people instead of being stereotypical snarling badass action figures.

 

[Detective Conan]

 

[DyeLorean]

They're hyping stuff a little too much. In fact, I think a lot of stuff is getting leaked ahead of each episode. Maybe this is just me, but I kinda wished actors/writers/directors and the media would just shut up and let the show play.

 

[djsunyc]

They're hyping stuff a little too much. In fact, I think a lot of stuff is getting leaked ahead of each episode. Maybe this is just me, but I kinda wished actors/writers/directors and the media would just shut up and let the show play.

you hype to generate excitement and viewership. but i agree about stuff getting leaked - i don't like that and try to stay away from all spoilers.

 

[Dark Raven]

I prefer these to be surprise cameos or guest roles rather than telling us ahead of time that this is going to happen.

 

[DyeLorean]

you hype to generate excitement and viewership. but i agree about stuff getting leaked - i don't like that and try to stay away from all spoilers.

The hype should come from the show itself, not the actors saying "oh... wait til you see who comes up... in one episode... around the end... where I have a scene with...!".

 

[Albert1981]

I don't mind the performers saying stuff. I recall Bettany making those comments last month when viewers were getting impatient at the "pace" of the show. I think he wanted people to stick with it. Personally, I have made up my own list of possible candidates for the mystery actor in WandaVision:

Could be: Daniel Day-Lewis, Gary Oldman, Sean Penn, Kevin Bacon, Mark Hamill, Woody Harrelson, Bruce Willis or Denzel Washington?

 

[Dr. Evil]

Is Monica Rambeau The Real Protagonist Of ‘WandaVision?’ (forbes.com)