Warren Ellis' "Newuniversal"

[euroq]

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/NextWave/pressconference.htm

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Getting to the anticipated announcement from the event, Ellis’ next Marvel project will be the ongoing series Newuniversal (a working title). “They’re giving me the New Universe to play with,” Ellis revealed.

[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"I'm going to be doing many terrible things with the old New Universe books - clean stuff, as if the books had never been published before, so I won't be beholden to any of the older work."

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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Ellis' new (i.e. rebooted) take on the New Univese will include a "chunk of the old stuff and a slightly smaller chunk of new stuff, just to get the best story out of it." [/FONT][/FONT]
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Ellis named Nightmask as one of the more interesting concepts of the previous New Universe incarnation. [/FONT][/FONT]
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Newuniversal will be an ongonig title, featuring all of the characters of the/his New Universe. "I wanted to write a big ensemble book," Ellis said, "and the idea that hit me as I was flipping through the [original] stuff was that it all should have been one big story. To me, the people lost sight of that when they did it."


[/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Ellis said that it will be written at a Marvel Universe level (n terms of content), and Marvel editors said that it would most likely be rated "T+".


[/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The stories of Newuniversal will not be self-contained, Ellis said. "It will roll along." [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The series is slated to be launched at the end of the summer.

[/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Coinciding with the release of Newuniversal, there will be collections of the original New Universe titles released.

[/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Editor Mark Pannicia will also be editing a preceding (the month prior) "New Universe" event celebrating the 20th Anniversary of the line. This New Universe event will feature stories set in the original continuity, however, and pre-The Pitt.

[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Paniccia explained that these "Untold Tales of the New Universe" - which will be published a month before the launch of Newuniversal - will feature five one-shots: StarBrand, NightMask, Justice, Psi-Force, and DP7. The other New Universe properties - Merc, Spitfire, and Kickers, Inc will appear as 8 page back-up stories - the first two in Amazing Fantasy, while Kickers, Inc will appear in New Avengers.


[/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]When asked what the attraction of the New Universe was for him, Ellis said that he's always wanted to take an old, forgotten franchise and "mess with it" as a technical challenge, to see if he can find what excited people about it in the first place, and bring that back out to the surface." [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]He'll be creating a mix of old characters and new characters of his creation. [/FONT][/FONT]
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"At the heart of it, it's science fiction, of course," Ellis said, the nature of which appealed to him. "It's an event that suddenly, overnight, in the space of a minute, appears to literally change the laws of physics on Planet Earth." [/FONT][/FONT]
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Speaking about picking up what is seen as a failed attempt at a new imprint, Ellis presented the following analogy: "Battlestar Galactica back in 1979 was a bloody awful television series. It was indefensible. The remake, however, is quite good. The PR of course, for the new Battlestar Galactica show didn't say: 'Finally, a piece of crap from the 1970s reborn for a new century!'" [/FONT][/FONT]
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In regards to not re-making the mistakes of the past in regards to the New Universe, Ellis said that, "the joy of that is that they are clearly in print there for you to see."[/FONT][/FONT]

 

[Doc Destruction]

YES!!!

I LOVE Starbrand! Glad to see this getting revisited!

 

[Elijya]

definitely interested in this. It could be like Supreme Power

and I'm glad to hear that collections of NU books are coming out of it

 

[DBM]

Eh.

I usually only like Ellis' creator owned stuff. Desolation Jones and Fell are both kicking major ass right now, and his got some other stuff coming up that I'm looking forward too.

I'll likely give this a shot, but I don't have high hopes for it. His stuff for the Big Two just never really does anything for me.

 

[Elijya]

he also has another mini that's halfway through right now called Down

I think if he's being given free-reign to do whatever he wants, and he's not beholden to any past continuity, he could easily produce something akin to his creator-owned works

 

[DBM]

he also has another mini that's halfway through right now called Down

I forgot about that. I've got the first two issue but have yet to read them.

I think if he's being given free-reign to do whatever he wants, and he's not beholden to any past continuity, he could easily produce something akin to his creator-owned works

I'll preface this by saying that I said my piece about Ellis in the thread about Nextwave, so I'm not going to get into too much of a discussion here.

I agree that free reign will allow him to do something similar to his creator-owned stuff, but to me that is the problem. If he wants free reign, or they want to give him free reign, why bother using the New Universe at all. Why don't they just let him create something altogether new rather than revamping something that is 20 years old?

This could work out well, as Supreme Power did, but JMS had a totally different viewpoint than Ellis. JMS was an admitted fan of the Squadron Supreme and wanted to update and revamp it, while providing an homage to the original. Ellis isn't a fan of the New Universe and won't be likely to have that same kind of reverance for it as JMS has in Supreme Power.

I just really don't like revamping. On very rare occasions it works out better than the original, but those occasions are the exceptions and not the rule.

Like I said before, I'll give it a chance, but I don't have high hopes.

 

[iloveclones]

Editor Mark Pannicia will also be editing a preceding (the month prior) "New Universe" event celebrating the 20th Anniversary of the line. This New Universe event will feature stories set in the original continuity, however, and pre-The Pitt.

Aw man, now I can't complain about that anymore. I hope he blows us up again. It was really fun the first time!

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

hey, Ellis how about you finish up those iron man books you flippin hack!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[deathshead2]

He should be messing with all the maibu stuff.

 

[Marcdachamp]

hey, Ellis how about you finish up those iron man books you flippin hack!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm pretty sure that's the fault of Adi Granov...

Newb.

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

I'm pretty sure that's the fault of Adi Granov...

Newb.

i blame both of them. ellis is doing projects left and right, and granov can go to hell. his art doesnt deserve this much time.

 

[Bullseye]

I didn't like what Ellis did with the Ultimate FF. Hopefully this new project of his is better.

 

[KingOfDreams]

I'll check it out for sure but I haven't liked every new universe book i've flipped through from the quarter bins. But he did say that he was revamping everything, didn't he?

 

[Marcdachamp]

i blame both of them. ellis is doing projects left and right, and granov can go to hell. his art doesnt deserve this much time.

That makes no sense. Is Ellis supposed to be helping with the art or something? That's like saying Dodson should have done nothing for 3 years between Spiderman/Black Cat issues.

 

[Cyclops]

What is with Marvel retreading old storylines so much these days? Kree/Skrull... reverting the X-Men to the 70s standard... now this?

 

[Elijya]

Aw man, now I can't complain about that anymore. I hope he blows us up again. It was really fun the first time!

hey, you deserved it

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

That makes no sense. Is Ellis supposed to be helping with the art or something? That's like saying Dodson should have done nothing for 3 years between Spiderman/Black Cat issues.

well you cant solely blame the artist for making these issues late. can you blame dell otto for having the book be late, not totally the major blame can go to marvel they shouldve just made the whole thing a novelization instead. hell its like blaming kubert for making ultimate iron man late, which you cant really because its orson scotts card's lack of timing.

 

[deemar325]

i blame both of them. ellis is doing projects left and right, and granov can go to hell. his art doesnt deserve this much time.

Can you do better than Granov? I doubt it, hell do you even have a talent?

 

[Elijya]

hey hey, let's be nice

 

[deemar325]

http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/NextWave/pressconference.htm

I'm intrigued, while I can't say I'm a fan of the 'New Universe' I'll give it a first-look.

 

[deemar325]

hey hey, let's be nice

I got worked up. Granov kicks @$$ when he's putting out work.

 

[iloveclones]

hey, you deserved it

Have you seen the fortunes of the Pirates, Penguins, Steelers, and Pitt Panthers? Good God, forget deserved, they'd be seriously putting us out of our misery!

 

[Elijya]

that what you get for naming a team the Penguins when you're not even in the right hemisphere

and a landlocked city with a team called the pirates? that's just ****ing stupid

 

[iloveclones]

that what you get for naming a team the Penguins when you're not even in the right hemisphere

You think that's bad? One of their minor league teams is called the Baby Penguins. How would you like to be a tough guy, hockey player and be playing for the Baby Penguins?!?

 

[Anubis]

Yeah, I'll get it. Mainly because I know f**k all about the New Universe except what I saw in a recent Exiles arc. (Gotta tell you, was not impressed. But what do I know?) Maybe they'll release some trades for the old NU like they did when Supreme Power came out. One things for sure, it WILL be late. Every goddamn book I have ever read from Ellis is late. Weather it's his fault or the artisit, the man is f**king cursed.