Warren Ellis' "Newuniversal"

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  1. euroq

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    http://www.newsarama.com/marvelnew/NextWave/pressconference.htm

     
  2. Doc Destruction

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    YES!!!

    I LOVE Starbrand! Glad to see this getting revisited!
     
  3. Elijya

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    definitely interested in this. It could be like Supreme Power

    and I'm glad to hear that collections of NU books are coming out of it
     
  4. DBM

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    Eh.

    I usually only like Ellis' creator owned stuff. Desolation Jones and Fell are both kicking major ass right now, and his got some other stuff coming up that I'm looking forward too.

    I'll likely give this a shot, but I don't have high hopes for it. His stuff for the Big Two just never really does anything for me.
     
  5. Elijya

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    he also has another mini that's halfway through right now called Down

    I think if he's being given free-reign to do whatever he wants, and he's not beholden to any past continuity, he could easily produce something akin to his creator-owned works
     
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    I forgot about that. I've got the first two issue but have yet to read them.

    I'll preface this by saying that I said my piece about Ellis in the thread about Nextwave, so I'm not going to get into too much of a discussion here.

    I agree that free reign will allow him to do something similar to his creator-owned stuff, but to me that is the problem. If he wants free reign, or they want to give him free reign, why bother using the New Universe at all. Why don't they just let him create something altogether new rather than revamping something that is 20 years old?

    This could work out well, as Supreme Power did, but JMS had a totally different viewpoint than Ellis. JMS was an admitted fan of the Squadron Supreme and wanted to update and revamp it, while providing an homage to the original. Ellis isn't a fan of the New Universe and won't be likely to have that same kind of reverance for it as JMS has in Supreme Power.

    I just really don't like revamping. On very rare occasions it works out better than the original, but those occasions are the exceptions and not the rule.

    Like I said before, I'll give it a chance, but I don't have high hopes.
     
  7. iloveclones

    iloveclones spooky....

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    Aw man, now I can't complain about that anymore. I hope he blows us up again. It was really fun the first time!
     
  8. GoldenAgeHero

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    hey, Ellis how about you finish up those iron man books you flippin hack!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    He should be messing with all the maibu stuff.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that's the fault of Adi Granov...

    Newb. ;)
     
  11. GoldenAgeHero

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    i blame both of them. ellis is doing projects left and right, and granov can go to hell. his art doesnt deserve this much time.
     
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    I didn't like what Ellis did with the Ultimate FF. Hopefully this new project of his is better.
     
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    I'll check it out for sure but I haven't liked every new universe book i've flipped through from the quarter bins. But he did say that he was revamping everything, didn't he?
     
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    That makes no sense. Is Ellis supposed to be helping with the art or something? That's like saying Dodson should have done nothing for 3 years between Spiderman/Black Cat issues.:down
     
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    What is with Marvel retreading old storylines so much these days? Kree/Skrull... reverting the X-Men to the 70s standard... now this?
     
  16. Elijya

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    hey, you deserved it
     
  17. GoldenAgeHero

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    well you cant solely blame the artist for making these issues late. can you blame dell otto for having the book be late, not totally the major blame can go to marvel they shouldve just made the whole thing a novelization instead. hell its like blaming kubert for making ultimate iron man late, which you cant really because its orson scotts card's lack of timing.
     
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    Can you do better than Granov? I doubt it, hell do you even have a talent?:down
     
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    hey hey, let's be nice
     
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    I got worked up.:up: Granov kicks @$$ when he's putting out work.
     
  22. iloveclones

    iloveclones spooky....

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    Have you seen the fortunes of the Pirates, Penguins, Steelers, and Pitt Panthers? Good God, forget deserved, they'd be seriously putting us out of our misery!
     
  23. Elijya

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    that what you get for naming a team the Penguins when you're not even in the right hemisphere

    and a landlocked city with a team called the pirates? that's just ****ing stupid
     
  24. iloveclones

    iloveclones spooky....

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    You think that's bad? One of their minor league teams is called the Baby Penguins. How would you like to be a tough guy, hockey player and be playing for the Baby Penguins?!?
     
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    Yeah, I'll get it. Mainly because I know f**k all about the New Universe except what I saw in a recent Exiles arc. (Gotta tell you, was not impressed. But what do I know?) Maybe they'll release some trades for the old NU like they did when Supreme Power came out. One things for sure, it WILL be late. Every goddamn book I have ever read from Ellis is late. Weather it's his fault or the artisit, the man is f**king cursed.
     

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