WB's 'Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them' original script by J.K. Rowling

[Boy Scout]

They'd kind of have to. In the books, the robes are apparently like full dresses, that only underwear is worn under. It makes no sense to wear Muggle clothes for practicality purpose and then wear the robes over them.

Now that I think about it, I don't think the books ever even hinted that wizards wore muggle clothing under their robes. It seems that, for the most part, it was always one or the other.

Gross.

At the risk of starting an entirely new conversation, I think it's worth pointing out that most wizards (in the books) were clueless about muggle fashion. Whenever an oddly dressed witch or wizard made an appearance, Harry made a comment about their obviously magical upbringing. So to what extent did wizards (in general) understand muggle fashion? Was there a generational gap? Is it safe to assume that, because they were so bad at blending in with muggles, that most wizards just didn't bother with muggle clothing most of the time?

Is it a dress because it is on a girl? Because otherwise, it is no different then what Dumbledore wears.

I don't see a resemblance.

I'll take your word for it, but my point still stands. Wearing the book robes is impractical, which JK said herself.

Sure, but my argument was never that they were practical.

But there is wizards wearing robes, and it makes no sense to wear both, at least the version from the books.

I think it makes perfect sense, but it doesn't appear to be an opinion that's supported by canon.

I like that the films went for an amalgamated approach. Eventually, we started to see wizards favor muggle clothing over robes, and, in my opinion, that was a mistake. Wizards were most often described as wearing robes. Therefore, the films should've placed the same amount of emphasis on wizard clothing as they did on muggle clothing.

I mean when they don't travel by floo. Think of Draco at King's Cross or traveling to the World Cup.

Draco and his family could've apparated directly onto the platform. They'd have had to interact with at least one muggle during the World Cup, though.

They were 17 at the start of OotP because they could already legally apparate. The description on Pottermore specifically says that when wizards and witches enter the workforce, they start wearing more traditional robes at work.

Yes, you're right about that.

Maybe we are both bad at it?

Nah, I just didn't know what I was talking about. I put a little too much stock in the illustrations, I think.

 

[Steelsheen]

ok so theres a hi-res photo of that EW cover and a few things got me quite curious about it:

the MACUSA official seal

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so it looks like stars adorning a crescent moon with stripes (their homage to the Muggle No-Maj stars n stripes flag?), but then theres also some kind of outline surrounding the moon and stars. is that just some random design shape or is it something more significant like a bird? fire?


and then theres those birds

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at first i thought they were eagles, but these hi-res photos suggests that they might be something else. for one thing it looks like it has 3 tails. and then theres that really sharp, narrow beak. is this our first look at a new creature, like a bird native only to the US? the official rendition of an augurey? a phoenix?

 

[hobo123]

Just go back to the source:

Looking through those illustrations again, the Dumbledore vs. Voldemort duel one always bothered me. It looks like Dumbledore is trying to stab Voldemort in the face with the wand.

I guess I'm the only one but this is not working for me. I was so excited when this spinoff was announced and now I'm like if the trailer and reviews are really good, I may see it and I'm huge HP fan.

One, I imagined this to have more world wide scope than just American version of HP. These fantastic beast are found all over the world, and I thought we would see Newt going to different Wizardry communities, etc.

Second, never wanted Eddie as Newt but I would have been fine if they made him the nerdy overworked professor I imagine than some sharp looking model dude.

Third, the cast is just uninspiring. I literally want to punch every single one of them except Ezra Miller in the face.

I also have no interest in American version of the Harry Potter world. Things like they have their own world for muggle instead of just using muggle since they also speak English is just annoying. Fine if the word JK came up with was great but No-Maj. Really?

The logo is beautiful though although I think they should have dropped and where to find them part. It seems too busy with that and JK Rowling's WW in there.

I can't wait till Harry Potter and the Cursed Child is turned into a movie though.

PS: David Yates as Director. Ugh.

I actually had the opposite reaction from you. I was very skeptical about this when it was announced, but got more excited as time went on. The cast actually intrigues me. I am glad the main cast is mostly unknown, I really didn't want to see Kate Upton or Michael Cera in this.

As for Yates, I would have preferred someone new, but he doesn't bother me.

 

[Airwings]

Third, the cast is just uninspiring. I literally want to punch every single one of them except Ezra Miller in the face.

PS: David Yates as Director. Ugh.

Seconded. They should have gone with either Cuaron or somebody who hasn't directed a Potter.

And Liam Aiken should have got one of the roles

 

[Boy Scout]

The only person I'm (slightly) concerned about at the moment is David Yates. I didn't hate his films, but they didn't do much for me until DH1.

 

[ares834]

So EW has just posted an article, where they give away a very basic plot synopsis of the film.

Eccentric magizoologist Newt Scamander (Oscar winner Eddie Redmayne) comes to New York (for a reason we won’t disclose) with his trusty weathered case. This case is one of those way-way-way-bigger-on-the-inside magical devices, and within are expansive habitats for a collection of rare and endangered magical creatures from Newt’s travels around globe. He discovers the American wizarding community is fearfully hiding from Muggles (who are called “No-Maj” in the States, more on that here) and the threat of public exposure is an even graver concern than in the UK (remember the Salem witch trials?). Fantastic Beasts is the story of what happens when this uniquely skilled English wizard travels to wiz-phobic America and a variety of his creatures, some quite dangerous … get out of their case.

 

[Octoberist]

The whole 'no-maj' thing is not a big deal but now I'm seeing that Potter fans are as nuts as Star Wars fans. It's not a midichlorian type thing where it almost retcons the Force concept; it's just a regional slang, which is true for Americans wanting to put their stamp on everything!

 

[jokesonm3]

No-maj, i guess i'll get used to that.

Although i prefer muggles.

 

[Octoberist]

Yeah it's just an American slang, and it's the 20's. There's many slangs for one thing, and heck there's different slang per State here.

 

[Guts]

Yeah it's just an American slang, and it's the 20's. There's many slangs for one thing, and heck there's different slang per State here.

Just like how some people call it soda and some people call it pop.

 

[Boy Scout]

So EW has just posted an article, where they give away a very basic plot synopsis of the film.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The whole 'no-maj' thing is not a big deal but now I'm seeing that Potter fans are as nuts as Star Wars fans. It's not a midichlorian type thing where it almost retcons the Force concept; it's just a regional slang, which is true for Americans wanting to put their stamp on everything!

That bad, huh? I am curious how it sounds being said "properly" and I think it is kind of cool.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Yeah it's just weird because we're so used to muggle. I think perhaps they found a way to make it sound a little more interesting than we're thinking. I trust Rowling on this.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yeah it's just weird because we're so used to muggle. I think perhaps they found a way to make it sound a little more interesting than we're thinking. I trust Rowling on this.

I trust Rowling pretty much with everything Potter other then Harry and Hermione's love lives.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Yeah I hope with future Potter stories, it's not a way for Rowling to make changes to what she wishes happened i.e. Harry and Hermione. I get creative people wishing doing things differently in hindsight, but with something so big as that, you HAVE to make sure those things won't change and stick to them. If not, keep it to yourself. Amending tapestries to your stories such as that isn't good. It's like the Lucas thing. It isn't fair to your fans.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yeah I hope with future Potter stories, it's not a way for Rowling to make changes to what she wishes happened i.e. Harry and Hermione. I get creative people wishing people doing things differently, but with something so big as that, you HAVE to make sure those things won't change and stick to them or if not, at least keep it to yourself. It's not fair to your fans. Amending tapestries to your stories such as that isn't good. It's like the Lucas thing. It isn't fair to your fans.

Oh, you mistake me, I am all for the eventual affair story, that ends with the rightful pairing of Harry and Hermione.

You don't think it is completely believable that at some point Hermione would be sick of Ron? Because I was surprised they were still married in the epilogue. They have such a bad relationship.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I see Ron and Hermione like the Clintons. One is affable and charming and does fine doing what he does best. The other is intelligent and pretty much in charge. You wouldn't think they go well together, but they really do.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I see Ron and Hermione like the Clintons. One is affable and charming and does fine doing what he does best. The other is intelligent and pretty much in charge. You wouldn't think they go well together, but they really do.

Do the Clintons seem happily married to you? t:

Also, never found Ron affable and charming.

 

[Sawyer]

Do the Clintons seem happily married to you? t:

Also, never found Ron affable and charming.

I can't speak for the book portrayal because it's been so damn long since reading the books, but yeah, movie Ron was kind of jerk-ish to everyone other than Harry.

 

[Boy Scout]

I trust Rowling pretty much with everything Potter other then Harry and Hermione's love lives.

Right?

Oh, you mistake me, I am all for the eventual affair story, that ends with the rightful pairing of Harry and Hermione.

I'd be all for that if it wouldn't 1) make them look like horrible people and 2) scar their children for life.

You don't think it is completely believable that at some point Hermione would be sick of Ron? Because I was surprised they were still married in the epilogue. They have such a bad relationship.

Rowling said that they probably had to get marriage counseling at some point.

I can't speak for the book portrayal because it's been so damn long since reading the books, but yeah, movie Ron was kind of jerk-ish to everyone other than Harry.

I think he's actually less obnoxious in the movies. He was often tactless and narrow-minded in the books.

 

[Marvolo]

The older I get the less I like Ron. Besides being pretty stupid and lazy, the **** he pulled in DH was borderline unforgiveable. Sure the locket intensified a lot of what he was feeling but its like alcohol. It cant make you into something youre not. On some level Ron is the guy who abandoned Harry and Hermione in the woods because he couldnt handle the crappy food and because of his own insecurities. The idea that Hermione would hop in the sack with him after that let alone marry him is hard for me to accept.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I can't speak for the book portrayal because it's been so damn long since reading the books, but yeah, movie Ron was kind of jerk-ish to everyone other than Harry.

Like The Boy Scout said, he is worse in the books.

The older I get the less I like Ron. Besides being pretty stupid and lazy, the **** he pulled in DH was borderline unforgiveable. Sure the locket intensified a lot of what he was feeling but its like alcohol. It cant make you into something youre not. On some level Ron is the guy who abandoned Harry and Hermione in the woods because he couldnt handle the crappy food and because of his own insecurities. The idea that Hermione would hop in the sack with him after that let alone marry him is hard for me to accept.

Completely agree with every last word you said.

 

[Snow Queen]

Ron was pretty much dead weight in the films and I don't recall it being any better in the books.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Ron was pretty much dead weight in the films and I don't recall it being any better in the books.

I usually don't care that much, but this one of those times I shipped something in my entire life, and I know I was right and the author was wrong. Then she basically admitted it years later.

 

[Boy Scout]

Ron was pretty much dead weight in the films and I don't recall it being any better in the books.

Pretty much.

To be fair, though, at least he had a personality. I like Harry, but he's as generic as they come.