WB's 'Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them' original script by J.K. Rowling

[Marvolo]

I agree with you, Boy Scout. Wizards wear muggle clothing in the books but only when its absolutely necessary to maintain secrecy. And adult wizards and even kids didnt understand or keep up with muggle fashion. Weasley and most of the wizards at the World Cup were dressed in all sorts of crazy outfits because they were clueless about muggle clothing and fashion. Cuaron started it with Lupin and Fudge wearing suits and then Newell and Yates took it entirely too far.

Yates made suits the standard male wizard attire and it irritated the **** out of me. Lucius Malfoy wouldnt be caught dead in a muggle style suit or any muggle clothing for that matter. Neither would Runcorn but in DH part 1 they are. Mifalda is wearing a muggle style dress coat and skirt in DH1. And most of the wizards at the ministry are wearing muggle dress wear. Mr. Weasley wore muggle clothing all the time in Yates films as did Lupin. Its just lazy. Would it kill them to have them dress like they do in the books?

I can kind of forgive it for this new trilogy because they are set in america and maybe american wizards know more about muggle attire, but Yates got it wrong in OOTP-DH Part 2. Look at this:

Thats entirely too "muggle". But whats done is done.

 

[Sawyer]

Nerd.

 

[Marvolo]

Nerd.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

To be clear, my issue isn't that wizards wore muggle clothing; it's that they wore them instead of robes. I'm all for mixing and matching, but not abandoning one style of dress in favor of another.

The thing is, they didn't. Plenty of characters wear robes all the time. Mainly the teachers and the baddies.

Sometimes. Bellatrix, Narcissa, and Lucius dressed like muggles all the time. Voldemort never did.

I think you are confusing robes with cloaks. Voldemort is wearing "robes". All three of those other characters you named are wearing "robes". They are simply stylized. Do you think Gandalf doesn't wear robes?

What you don't see a lot of is cloaks/capes.

Sure, but robes were still 1) a huge part of their culture and 2) worn in situation where running, jumping, and fighting were necessary, regardless of why they were wearing them at the time.

But who did? Not the kids.

I was talking about the books, not the films. The films did things differently, and that's why we're having this conversation.

I know, I am comparing both as well. The amount of "robe" wearing in the books isn't huge for the kids and that is who we are following. They wear robes with their uniforms. Harry and Hermione grew up in the Muggle world, so their style of dress isn't really an issue at all.

Well...yeah. That's because, most of the time, they were in school, and robes were a part of the uniform.

But the point is you don't see them wearing random cloaks and robes.

Again, I don't have an issue with wizards wearing muggle clothing. What I didn't like is that wearing robes - for witches and wizards of any age - became increasingly rare as the films went on.

Which characters stopped wearing robes that wore robes to start with?

Why couldn't they be worn underneath?

They do wear sweaters underneath their cloaks. But I don't exactly see the point of wearing a coat in such a way.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I agree with you, Boy Scout. Wizards wear muggle clothing in the books but only when its absolutely necessary to maintain secrecy. And adult wizards and even kids didnt understand or keep up with muggle fashion. Weasley and most of the wizards at the World Cup were dressed in all sorts of crazy outfits because they were clueless about muggle clothing and fashion. Cuaron started it with Lupin and Fudge wearing suits and then Newell and Yates took it entirely too far.

Wizards and Witches wear "Muggle" clothing all the time, because they walk around in shirts, pants, skirts, sweaters, socks, etc. The thing is, some are suppose to look "lost in time" a lot of the time.

Just go back to the source:

Yates made suits the standard male wizard attire and it irritated the **** out of me. Lucius Malfoy wouldnt be caught dead in a muggle style suit or any muggle clothing for that matter. Neither would Runcorn but in DH part 1 they are. Mifalda is wearing a muggle style dress coat and skirt in DH1. And most of the wizards at the ministry are wearing muggle dress wear. Mr. Weasley wore muggle clothing all the time in Yates films as did Lupin. Its just lazy. Would it kill them to have them dress like they do in the books?

To be fair, with Mr. Weasley liked to dress in such a manner do to his affinity for Muggles.

And would it have killed them? No, but I think they went with what looked best and created a coherent and "real" world.

I can kind of forgive it for this new trilogy because they are set in america and maybe american wizards know more about muggle attire, but Yates got it wrong in OOTP-DH Part 2. Look at this:

Thats entirely too "muggle". But whats done is done.

Of course the gestapo dress in such a manner. They are evil.

 

[Marvolo]

Mr. Weasley, Lucius, Lupin, Slughorn, Fudge and lots of the ministry workers wore muggle style attire in the films instead of robes.

 

[Marvolo]

Wizards and Witches wear "Muggle" clothing all the time, because they walk around in shirts, pants, skirts, sweaters, socks, etc. The thing is, some are suppose to look "lost in time" a lot of the time.

Just go back to the source:

To be fair, with Mr. Weasley liked to dress in such a manner do to his affinity for Muggles.

And would it have killed them? No, but I think they went with what looked best and created a coherent and "real" world.


Of course the gestapo dress in such a manner. They are evil.

The gestapo treat muggles like scum and dirt. They wouldnt dress like muggles.

And having them dress like they do in the books would have created a coherent real world look.

And mary grand pre's illustrations are irrelevant. They were only in the US books and werent done by the author.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Mr. Weasley, Lucius, Lupin, Slughorn, Fudge and lots of the ministry workers wore muggle style attire in the films instead of robes.

There are very few characters in the books that do not wear Muggle style attire, because Muggle style attire is basic clothing. Which is exactly what everyone who doesn't wear the man dress wears, outside of the cloaks and bath style robes.

Lucius clothes actually got less Muggle as the movies went on.

And a lot of things worn are "lost in time" sort of clothing. Though I do agree on Lupin and everyone but Kingsley at the Ministry.

Basically, what we are talking about is putting a bath robe over normal clothing, because that is the gist here.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The gestapo treat muggles like scum and dirt. They wouldnt dress like muggles.

And having them dress like they do in the books would have created a coherent real world look.

And mary grand pre's illustrations are irrelevant. They were only in the US books and werent done by the author.

He we go:

http://pottermore.wikia.com/wiki/Clothing

Wizards at large in the Muggle community may reveal themselves to each other by wearing the colours of purple and green, often in combination. However, this is no more than an unwritten code, and there is no obligation to conform to it. Plenty of members of the magical community prefer to wear their favourite colours when out and about in the Muggle world, or adopt black as a practical colour, especially when travelling by night.

The International Statute of Secrecy laid down clear guidelines on dress for witches and wizards when they are out in public.

When mingling with Muggles, wizards and witches will adopt an entirely Muggle standard of dress, which will conform as closely as possible to the fashion of the day. Clothing must be appropriate to the climate, the geographical region and the occasion. Nothing self-altering or adjusting is to be worn in front of Muggles.

In spite of these clear instructions, clothing misdemeanours have been one of the most common infractions of the International Statute of Secrecy since its inception. Younger generations have always tended to be better informed about Muggle culture in general; as children, they mingle freely with their Muggle counterparts; later, when they enter magical careers, it becomes more difficult to keep in touch with normal Muggle dress. Older witches and wizards are often hopelessly out of touch with how quickly fashions in the Muggle world change; having purchased a pair of psychedelic loon pants in their youth, they are indignant to be hauled up in front of the Wizengamot fifty years later for arousing widespread offence at a Muggle funeral.

...

By and large, wizard clothing has remained outside of fashion, although small alterations have been made to such garments as dress robes. Standard wizard clothing comprises plain robes, worn with or without the traditional pointed hat, and will always be worn on such formal occasions as christenings, weddings and funerals. Women's dresses tend to be long. Wizard clothing might be said to be frozen in time, harking back to the seventeenth century, when they went into hiding. Their nostalgic adherence to this old-fashioned form of dress may be seen as a clinging to old ways and old times; a matter of cultural pride.

...

Day to day, however, even those who detest Muggles wear a version of Muggle clothing, which is undeniably practical compared with robes. Anti-Muggles will often attempt to demonstrate their superiority by adopting a deliberately flamboyant, out-of-date or dandyish style in public.

So basically this.

Wizard's robes consist of what Dumbledore wears. Young wizards usually dress like the Muggles of their era, but lose touch as they get older. So when they wear Muggle clothes as adults, probably something in fashion with their youth. The majority wear Muggle clothes day to day as it is far more practical. Even the anti-Muggles do it, though they wear older clothing to prove a point.

 

[Marvolo]

There are very few characters in the books that do not wear Muggle style attire, because Muggle style attire is basic clothing. Which is exactly what everyone who doesn't wear the man dress wears, outside of the cloaks and bath style robes.

Lucius clothes actually got less Muggle as the movies went on.

And a lot of things worn are "lost in time" sort of clothing. Though I do agree on Lupin and everyone but Kingsley at the Ministry.

Basically, what we are talking about is putting a bath robe over normal clothing, because that is the gist here.

His death eater outfit wasnt muggle attire but the rest of his clothing was in Yates films. Especially his outfit in DH1.

Sorry, Darth, but you're just wrong about wizards wearing muggle clothing. The books and JK's own words on Pottermore make it clear that muggle fashion and muggle clothing is entirely lost on most wizards especially pure blood wizards. Muggle borns and kids are better at using muggle fashion, but other wizards arent. Wizard fashion is froze in an 18th century and 17th century fashion sense.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

His death eater outfit wasnt muggle attire but the rest of his clothing was in Yates films. Especially his outfit in DH1.

Sorry, Darth, but you're just wrong about wizards wearing muggle clothing. The books and JK's own words on Pottermore make it clear that muggle fashion and muggle clothing is entirely lost on most wizards especially pure blood wizards. Muggle borns and kids are better at using muggle fashion, but other wizards arent. Wizard fashion is froze in an 18th century and 17th century fashion sense.

Am I? Did you read the Pottermore stuff? It says they wear a version of Muggle clothing day to day, even those that detest it. You are right on what traditional Wizard clothing looks like, but they don't wear traditional Wizard dress all the time.

 

[Marvolo]

Am I? Did you read the Pottermore stuff? It says they wear a version of Muggle clothing day to day, even those that detest it. You are right on what traditional Wizard clothing looks like, but they don't wear traditional Wizard dress all the time.

Yeah I read it. She said younger wizards are morr in the know about muggle clothing due to them being more open minded and dur to them interacting with other muggle children, but older wizards are far less adept at wearing muggle attire. Its 19th and 20th century muggle clothing is not a part of their daily attire.

 

[Marvolo]

Lets just put this to rest so we can stop arguing about it.

Wizard Clohing By JK Rowling

Wizards at large in the Muggle community may reveal themselves to each other by wearing the colours of purple and green, often in combination. However, this is no more than an unwritten code, and there is no obligation to conform to it. Plenty of members of the magical community prefer to wear their favourite colours when out and about in the Muggle world, or adopt black as a practical colour, especially when travelling by night.

The International Statute of Secrecy laid down clear guidelines on dress for witches and wizards when they are out in public.

When mingling with Muggles, wizards and witches will adopt an entirely Muggle standard of dress, which will conform as closely as possible to the fashion of the day. Clothing must be appropriate to the climate, the geographical region and the occasion. Nothing self-altering or adjusting is to be worn in front of Muggles.

In spite of these clear instructions, clothing misdemeanours have been one of the most common infractions of the International Statute of Secrecy since its inception. Younger generations have always tended to be better informed about Muggle culture in general; as children, they mingle freely with their Muggle counterparts; later, when they enter magical careers, it becomes more difficult to keep in touch with normal Muggle dress. Older witches and wizards are often hopelessly out of touch with how quickly fashions in the Muggle world change; having purchased a pair of psychedelic loon pants in their youth, they are indignant to be hauled up in front of the Wizengamot fifty years later for arousing widespread offence at a Muggle funeral.

The Ministry of Magic is not always so strict. A one-day amnesty was announced on the day that news broke of Lord Voldemort's disappearance following Harry Potter's survival of the Killing Curse. Such was the excitement that witches and wizards took to the streets in their traditional clothes, which they had either forgotten or adopted as a mark of celebration.

Some members of the magical community go out of their way to break the clothing clause in the Statute of Secrecy. A fringe movement calling itself Fresh Air Refreshes Totally (F.A.R.T.)* insists that Muggle trousers 'stem the magical flow at source' and insist on wearing robes in public, in spite of repeated warnings and fines.** More unusually, wizards deliberately adopt laughable Muggle confections, such as a crinoline worn with a sombrero and football boots.***

By and large, wizard clothing has remained outside of fashion, although small alterations have been made to such garments as dress robes. Standard wizard clothing comprises plain robes, worn with or without the traditional pointed hat, and will always be worn on such formal occasions as christenings, weddings and funerals. Women's dresses tend to be long. Wizard clothing might be said to be frozen in time, harking back to the seventeenth century, when they went into hiding. Their nostalgic adherence to this old-fashioned form of dress may be seen as a clinging to old ways and old times; a matter of cultural pride.

Day to day, however, even those who detest Muggles wear a version of Muggle clothing, which is undeniably practical compared with robes. Anti-Muggles will often attempt to demonstrate their superiority by adopting a deliberately flamboyant, out-of-date or dandyish style in public.

* President Archie Aymslowe

** To date, they appear to have been taken as cult members by Muggles.

*** These are generally taken by Muggles to be students on a dare.
Campsite at Qudditch World Cup

https://www.pottermore.com/writing-by-jk-rowling/clothing

So I guess its down to the wizard in question whether they employ muggle fashion.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yeah I read it. She said younger wizards are morr in the know about muggle clothing due to them being more open minded and dur to them interacting with other muggle children, but older wizards are far less adept at wearing muggle attire. Its 19th and 20th century muggle clothing is not a part of their daily attire.

But it says they wear Muggle clothing day to day, even those that despise Muggles. It is just too practical.

And then you have to consider that each generation adapts to their youths clothes and then lose touch as they get older. The films took place in the 00s, while the books took place in the 90s. So in the films the kids should dress like they are from the 00s, and their parents like they are from the the late 70s though the mid 80s. Thus suits being a thing really isn't far-fetched at all. I am watching From Russia With Love right now. Bond's suit wouldn't look out of place now.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Wizard Clohing By JK Rowling

Are you just ignoring this bit?

Day to day, however, even those who detest Muggles wear a version of Muggle clothing, which is undeniably practical compared with robes. Anti-Muggles will often attempt to demonstrate their superiority by adopting a deliberately flamboyant, out-of-date or dandyish style in public.

It is what I have been saying the entire time. While Snape and Dumbledore wear traditional Wizard's clothing, that isn't the only thing that wizards wear. In fact, everyday they wear Muggle clothing because of its practicality, even those that detest Muggles.

 

[Marvolo]

But it says they wear Muggle clothing day to day, even those that despise Muggles. It is just too practical.

And then you have to consider that each generation adapts to their youths clothes and then lose touch as they get older. The films took place in the 00s, while the books took place in the 90s. So in the films the kids should dress like they are from the 00s, and their parents like they are from the the late 70s though the mid 80s. Thus suits being a thing really isn't far-fetched at all. I am watching From Russia With Love right now. Bond's suit wouldn't look out of place now.

Yeah I guess you make a fair point.

And I wasnt ignoring that bit. I just didnt remember it.

I still dont think they should be wearing full muggle style suits. Including muggle attire in their outifts doesnt change the fact they arent good with muggle fashion. In the books they mix and match some strainge incompatible muggle styles when they try to use muggle attire. So yeah they might wear muggle pants but I dont get the impression that they would be walking around in fine formal suits like they are in the pic I posted. What they are wearing in the pic contradicts whats in that quote. Theyd not wear suits and outfits like that. Its too "muggle" for those racist muggle haters to be wearing.

 

[Steelsheen]

For a second, I thought this was Eddie doing drag again.

now that you mentioned it

*waits for memes of Queenie and the Danish Girl*

 

[Steelsheen]

Yates and the production designers are really tapping into that Gilded Age aesthetic of the 1920s. I love it! Im guessing that is the entrance hall of the MACUSA. Its the complete oposite of the underground MOM. its good tho.

On another note, a set video leaked recently and it shows a bunch of women protesting a formal wizard gathering or something and they are yelling "We Want...something". The final word wasnt clear, but supposedly they were saying "We Want Witchcraft!". I wonder if witches in America have to fight for rights like muggle women had to fight for rights to vote.

I'm totally loving the aesthetic too and they picked the Woolworth building as MaCUSA location, I can't wait to see how they portray that on film.

if we're referring to the same leaked vid (where they blocked off the front of St George's for night shoots), it was "We want a second Salem". no clue what that means but apparently it's being chanted by Muggles... err No-maj.

speaking of which, as an American who has a habit of shortcutting words, No-Maj is a hassle to write (hyphens? ain't nobody got time fo' dat :P) also I keep hearing the word in Homer Simpson's voice

 

[Boy Scout]

The thing is, they didn't.

Yes, they did - for the most part. Characters like Dumbledore and Snape, who exclusively wore robes, became the exception, not the rule.

I think you are confusing robes with cloaks.

Not at all.

All three of those other characters you named are wearing "robes".

This is a dress.

Spoiler

This is a coat.

Spoiler

This is a suit.

Spoiler

But who did? Not the kids.

Yes, they did. They fought against the Death Eaters in the Department of Mysteries while wearing robes. They ran, jumped, and cast several spells.

I know, I am comparing both as well. The amount of "robe" wearing in the books isn't huge for the kids and that is who we are following.

I said that wearing robes was a part of wizard culture. You responded by saying that was only true for the adults. That's not true. Harry and Hermione were raised by muggles. Arthur Weasley was fascinated by muggles, and likely insisted that his children wear muggle clothing from time to time. None of those characters are representative of the wizarding world as a whole. I seriously doubt that Draco Malfoy, for example, wore muggle clothing around Malfoy Manor.

But the point is you don't see them wearing random cloaks and robes.

Fred and George wore magenta robes at their store.

I don't doubt that there are several more instances where the children wore robes outside of school. I'm just too lazy to find them.

Which characters stopped wearing robes that wore robes to start with?

What does that have to do with the larger issue, which is that it became rare for witches and wizards in general to be seen wearing robes?

They do wear sweaters underneath their cloaks.

There you go.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yeah I guess you make a fair point.

And I wasnt ignoring that bit. I just didnt remember it.

I still dont think they should be wearing full muggle style suits. Including muggle attire in their outifts doesnt change the fact they arent good with muggle fashion. In the books they mix and match some strainge incompatible muggle styles when they try to use muggle attire. So yeah they might wear muggle pants but I dont get the impression that they would be walking around in fine formal suits like they are in the pic I posted. What they are wearing in the pic contradicts whats in that quote. Theyd not wear suits and outfits like that. Its too "muggle" for those racist muggle haters to be wearing.

While I enjoy what they did with the film, I agree that they should have went more "weird" and crazy with the muggle clothing that adults wore. There should be a bit of "clown" quality to it all. Like you said, mix and matching. Though I would give the benefit of the doubt to higher ups in the Ministry, mainly because they do interact a bit with the Muggle Ministry.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yes, they did - for the most part. Characters like Dumbledore and Snape, who exclusively wore robes, became the exception, not the rule.

And as JK said herself, wizards and witches wore Muggle clothing everyday, for practicality purposes.

Not at all.

This is a dress.

Spoiler

This is a coat.

Spoiler

This is a suit.

Spoiler

Bellatrix's gear qualifies. Witches can wear dresses. How does Bellatrix's gear different from Dumbledore's in that regard? The rest have other outfits, which are clearly more robe like.

Yes, they did. They fought against the Death Eaters in the Department of Mysteries while wearing robes. They ran, jumped, and cast several spells.

I am not even sure if they do wear them, as I don't believe they are in class when the finale of OoTP happens, and the kids don't wear their robes while out of class. JK herself said that robes weren't practical, which is why Muggle dress was used daily by wizards and witches.

I said that wearing robes was a part of wizard culture. You responded by saying that was only true for the adults. That's not true. Harry and Hermione were raised by muggles. Arthur Weasley was fascinated by muggles, and likely insisted that his children wear muggle clothing from time to time. None of those characters are representative of the wizarding world as a whole. I seriously doubt that Draco Malfoy, for example, wore muggle clothing around Malfoy Manor.

But if he went out in public, he'd have to wear Muggle clothing. Say like traveling to the World Cup.

Fred and George wore magenta robes at their store.

I don't doubt that there are several more instances where the children wore robes outside of school. I'm just too lazy to find them.

Aren't Fred and George adults once they open their shop?

What does that have to do with the larger issue, which is that it became rare for witches and wizards in general to be seen wearing robes?

Which is consistent with what JK says is the dress code for witches and wizards.

There you go.

You do realize that they wear sweaters is a point in my favor right? That Mrs. Weasley makes them for her kids every year. Muggle clothing.

 

[Boy Scout]

And as JK said herself, wizards and witches wore Muggle clothing everyday, for practicality purposes.

Did she say they wore them instead of robes? Because that's what I have a problem with, and it's one that's exclusive to the films.

Bellatrix's gear qualifies.

You said that she was wearing robes. She isn't.

How does Bellatrix's gear different from Dumbledore's in that regard?

Dumbledore isn't wearing a dress.

I am not even sure if they do wear them...

They do.

You said that the children weren't likely to go running around in robes. They can and have, more than once. The Battle of the Department of Mysteries is one of several examples.

JK herself said that robes weren't practical, which is why Muggle dress was used daily by wizards and witches.

Again: I don't have a problem with wizards wearing muggle clothing. I have a problem with replacing robes with muggle clothing, which the films are guilty of.

But if he went out in public, he'd have to wear Muggle clothing. Say like traveling to the World Cup.

I didn't understand what you meant by "out in public." I assumed you meant in a place like Diagon Alley, not Muggle London.

Aren't Fred and George adults once they open their shop?

They were seventeen (I think). Legally adults, but still young enough to be considered one of the children, especially compared to seasoned wizards like Lucius Malfoy or their parents.

Which is consistent with what JK says is the dress code for witches and wizards.

But didn't you say that it was usually the adults that always wore robes? Which is it?

You do realize that they wear sweaters is a point in my favor right?

Not at all, because again, I never said that wizards should never wear muggle clothing.

I think I'm communicating what I'm trying to say rather poorly, which is probably what's causing the confusion.

 

[Sevprince]

I guess I'm the only one but this is not working for me. I was so excited when this spinoff was announced and now I'm like if the trailer and reviews are really good, I may see it and I'm huge HP fan.

One, I imagined this to have more world wide scope than just American version of HP. These fantastic beast are found all over the world, and I thought we would see Newt going to different Wizardry communities, etc.

Second, never wanted Eddie as Newt but I would have been fine if they made him the nerdy overworked professor I imagine than some sharp looking model dude.

Third, the cast is just uninspiring. I literally want to punch every single one of them except Ezra Miller in the face.

I also have no interest in American version of the Harry Potter world. Things like they have their own world for muggle instead of just using muggle since they also speak English is just annoying. Fine if the word JK came up with was great but No-Maj. Really?

The logo is beautiful though although I think they should have dropped and where to find them part. It seems too busy with that and JK Rowling's WW in there.

I can't wait till Harry Potter and the Cursed Child is turned into a movie though.

PS: David Yates as Director. Ugh.

 

[Octoberist]

Wait till there's a trailer man.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Did she say they wore them instead of robes? Because that's what I have a problem with, and it's one that's exclusive to the films.

They'd kind of have to. In the books, the robes are apparently like full dresses, that only underwear is worn under. So to wear Muggle clothes, you'd have to drop the robes. It makes no sense to wear Muggle clothes for practicality purpose and then wear the robes over them.

You said that she was wearing robes. She isn't.

Dumbledore isn't wearing a dress.

Is it a dress because it is on a girl? Because otherwise, it is no different then what Dumbledore wears.

They do.

You said that the children weren't likely to go running around in robes. They can and have, more than once. The Battle of the Department of Mysteries is one of several examples.[/QUOTE]
I'll take your word for it, but my point still stands. Wearing the book robes is impractical, which JK said herself.

Again: I don't have a problem with wizards wearing muggle clothing. I have a problem with replacing robes with muggle clothing, which the films are guilty of.

But there is wizards wearing robes, and it makes no sense to wear both, at least the version from the books.

I didn't understand what you meant by "out in public." I assumed you meant in a place like Diagon Alley, not Muggle London.

I mean when they don't travel by floo. Think of Draco at King's Cross or traveling to the World Cup.

They were seventeen (I think). Legally adults, but still young enough to be considered one of the children, especially compared to seasoned wizards like Lucius Malfoy or their parents.

They were 17 at the start of OotP because they could already legally apparate. The description on Pottermore specifically says that when wizards and witches enter the workforce, they start wearing more traditional robes at work.

But didn't you say that it was usually the adults that always wore robes? Which is it?

According to JK, adults don't always wear robes. Everyday in fact they don't.

Not at all, because again, I never said that wizards should never wear muggle clothing.

That isn't the point. Looking into what qualifies as robes in the books, you wouldn't wear both together. It would be like wearing a sweater under a dress.

I think I'm communicating what I'm trying to say rather poorly, which is probably what's causing the confusion.

Maybe we are both bad at it?