World Web shooter shop class - Part 1

[nolder]

Hey I am now gonna join this thread. I see everyone familiar. How do I post my design??? As a picture? Ill post my design

Anyway, has anyone ever thought of making there own valve that attaches to the pressure vessel (CO2 Cartridge) using a few nuts and bots??? And how would I puncture the CO2 can to let the air stop at the nut with out putting my eye out?

1.) you can upload it to the website at http://realwebtech.webs.com/apps/photos/ then click the insert image button in the post.

2.) That will be dangerous reguardless of the type of valve you were trying to make

3.) leren used a pin and secured his co2 to the back of his design. my design will use parts from a air soft or paintball gun as they use the same cartridges. or a co2 bike pump.

saying the same things over and over and asking the same questions over and over in the future will not yield answers from me. it is annoying. try using the search function at the top to search key words like co2 to see if your question has already been discussed.

I agree with human spider. I really wanna see some pictures of his web shooter. particularly the vacuum part

 

[MSaleem]

To Nolder: How is my design dangerous? Is the CO2 cartridge not secure? Or is there no way to screw the CO2 cartridge in while it is open?

The only reason I keep saying the same posts is cause no one is really telling me what is going on at all. I just wanna know whats going on. If anyone can tell em I would appreciate it.

 

[White_widow]

To Sal: I second Nolder's comments. It's all dangerous, you need a strong steel pipette to puncture the top and lead the air into the cartridge. To block it off, as mentioned, you will need a pin or plunger to block the co2. The same is said for your aerosol comment at the top.

To Nolder: I want to officially thank you, as you sparked the though in my head that allowed me to figure out leren's shooter the last thing I needed to figure out, you did. Thanks!

To Spidey44: I want to thank you for Figuring out how to make the perfect cartridge for a solvent resistant material that isn't hard at all to make.

To Marvel Fan: I thank you as well for a similar thing, though instead of a cartridge, a tank.

To Everyone: Back when I was starting this project, I got easily pissed whenever anyone asked to see pictures of what I was doing. It's not that I was hiding anything, but rather, I am a perfectionist in design, and I wanted to wait till everything was just right. Not only that, but I didn't even have a camera to show you what I was working on.

That being said Spider phantom now has to deal with the same frustration, as he is developing something, and wants to make sure he presents to you guys, the real deal. Please be considerate to him/her. Imagine that you almost had the perfect shooter, but it couldn't fire JUST yet. It needed like two tweeks. You'd hold off until it's perfect. Just remember that. Feel free to ask him questions about it, because he seems excited to answer.

 

[MSaleem]

To Sal: I second Nolder's comments. It's all dangerous, you need a strong steel pipette to puncture the top and lead the air into the cartridge. To block it off, as mentioned, you will need a pin or plunger to block the co2. The same is said for your aerosol comment at the top.

To Nolder: I want to officially thank you, as you sparked the though in my head that allowed me to figure out leren's shooter the last thing I needed to figure out, you did. Thanks!

To Spidey44: I want to thank you for Figuring out how to make the perfect cartridge for a solvent resistant material that isn't hard at all to make.

To Marvel Fan: I thank you as well for a similar thing, though instead of a cartridge, a tank.

To Everyone: Back when I was starting this project, I got easily pissed whenever anyone asked to see pictures of what I was doing. It's not that I was hiding anything, but rather, I am a perfectionist in design, and I wanted to wait till everything was just right. Not only that, but I didn't even have a camera to show you what I was working on.

That being said Spider phantom now has to deal with the same frustration, as he is developing something, and wants to make sure he presents to you guys, the real deal. Please be considerate to him/her. Imagine that you almost had the perfect shooter, but it couldn't fire JUST yet. It needed like two tweeks. You'd hold off until it's perfect. Just remember that. Feel free to ask him questions about it, because he seems excited to answer.

So the pin covers the hole in the CO2 Cartridge?

Also I can understand how Spider Phantom feels

 

[nolder]

To Nolder: How is my design dangerous? Is the CO2 cartridge not secure? Or is there no way to screw the CO2 cartridge in while it is open?

The only reason I keep saying the same posts is cause no one is really telling me what is going on at all. I just wanna know whats going on. If anyone can tell em I would appreciate it.

Sal: ahhh no I was saying that creating a homemade valve would be dangerous. but yes, this whole projects is kinda dangerous with the pressures were working with.
And it's not that no one is telling you whats going on, it's just not alot is going on.

WW: what was the last thing you needed to figure out?!? and could you create diagram on top of the picture of lerens webshooter to show how it works? or if you explain it to me, I can do it

phantom: sorry If I pushed to hard.

 

[MSaleem]

What about a trigger valve?

I'm sure someone has thought of this. Although it's kinda big now that I look at it.

So pretty much what I need is a safer way to control the CO2 Air Pressure

 

[MSaleem]

Ok, so I have a question for you guys. In the web shooter, how do you want the web to come out? Do you want it to fully come out of the shooter like silly string does? Or do you want part of it to stay in the shooter?

Personally, I would prefer the latter. I would like to be able to yank things towards me with the shooter, without having to catch it at the exact right moment. I rather the web come out like it does in this poster:

If you look closely, you can see that the web is still connected to the shooter. That is what I want to achieve.

The problem is, I'll admit, I have absolutely no idea how. I've been thinking about this for weeks, and I feel like the answer has been staring me in the face, but I just can't see it. For lack of a better way to say this, I'm stuck!

Any ideas, guys?

Well I guess we have to find how the web cuts off. Does it cut off when the valve closes? Or does is cut off because the liquid and the web are different if you know what I mean

Also, is anyone else feeling nervous on this project? Even though I have total faith in it

 

[MSaleem]

Oh my, How to BUILD a push button valve.

Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg3uCXTAHbk

Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN8ZOdo50SE&feature=relmfu

I thought this was pretty amazing! Maybe this could be the trigger/valve. And I think he was using helium pressure/

I'm sorry about the over posting again.

 

[nolder]

Sal: a trigger or push button valve can work if they fit. I really recommend you don't make one yourself and use it on a webshooter. theres no way of know how much pressure it can take. also, pvc shatters into sharp pieces under high pressures because its meant to transport water as opposed to hold gas at high pressure.

as for the co2, check out co2 bike inflators/pumps.

what do you mean? nervous about what?

Vets: http://www.instructables.com/id/Build-A-Net-Gun/

I thought that was interesting. I can't figure out how he creates pressure. also he uses pvc which is unfortunate

 

[MSaleem]

Sal: a trigger or push button valve can work if they fit. I really recommend you don't make one yourself and use it on a webshooter. theres no way of know how much pressure it can take. also, pvc shatters into sharp pieces under high pressures because its meant to transport water as opposed to hold gas at high pressure.

as for the co2, check out co2 bike inflators/pumps.

what do you mean? nervous about what?

I feel weird like If I get all the stuff, make it, and something is messed up. We have to start all over. That probably made no sense.

I dont know much about valves and stuff, so if I start building... I feel like I have no idea on how to build it. Like i'm doing something wrong. I dont know. But HEY there's trial and error right

As for the web shooter. Then what kind of valve CAN we use? If most of them will break under pressure or they are too weird. Is it possible to use a trigger valve? Like the types on hoses?

 

[White_widow]

To Sal: THAT'S exactly what I want you to do. Do some research on this stuff, and you'll find something you can use.

To Nolder, I was trying to figure out how he capped the CO2, and you've shown me.

 

[MSaleem]

To Sal: THAT'S exactly what I want you to do. Do some research on this stuff, and you'll find something you can use.

To Nolder, I was trying to figure out how he capped the CO2, and you've shown me.

To Nolder, How DO you cap it? That was kinda also my problem.

Instead of using PVC as the pipe for the button valve, why not replace it with copper tubing? I found some online

 

[nolder]

To Nolder, How DO you cap it? That was kinda also my problem.

use parts from things that use co2 cartridges. co2 tire inflators, paintball guns, airsoft guns, kegs, co2 dragsters. look it up. its not hard

 

[White_widow]

I'm thinking about making a new forum just for Newbies to get acquainted with the basics of web shooter design. I'm willing to make a forum where I will go, in depth, into everything including traps that new guys fall into with working on this, but I need you guys to do something for me.

you must promise to NOT POST A SINGLE THING in that forum. I will need to go in depth on this project. The history, as not to repeat it, the mechanism, the theories. I don't have enough time to do this, so I will have to go uninterrupted.

If I get Bdude and Sal to officially write out that they will not post on that forum, I will start it. The only, AND I DO MEAN ONLY persons that I will allow to write on that forum would be The_Web and Wadaltmon.

Are these ok terms?

 

[spidey44]

Sounds good.

 

[nolder]

I'm thinking about making a new forum just for Newbies to get acquainted with the basics of web shooter design. I'm willing to make a forum where I will go, in depth, into everything including traps that new guys fall into with working on this, but I need you guys to do something for me.

you must promise to NOT POST A SINGLE THING in that forum. I will need to go in depth on this project. The history, as not to repeat it, the mechanism, the theories. I don't have enough time to do this, so I will have to go uninterrupted.

If I get Bdude and Sal to officially write out that they will not post on that forum, I will start it. The only, AND I DO MEAN ONLY persons that I will allow to write on that forum would be The_Web and Wadaltmon.

Are these ok terms?

YES. we need this. the only thing is, there will be new people. and trolls. they will post on it. I was suggesting not just a new thread (which is what I think you meant), but a new forum. in other words, we branch off from superherohype. that way, we can admin the forum and lock threads and the like so no one posts on it. the only down side to this is all of our old posts are here.

 

[White_widow]

Maybe I should convert my old scientistslair website on weebly.

 

[MSaleem]

I'm thinking about making a new forum just for Newbies to get acquainted with the basics of web shooter design. I'm willing to make a forum where I will go, in depth, into everything including traps that new guys fall into with working on this, but I need you guys to do something for me.

you must promise to NOT POST A SINGLE THING in that forum. I will need to go in depth on this project. The history, as not to repeat it, the mechanism, the theories. I don't have enough time to do this, so I will have to go uninterrupted.

If I get Bdude and Sal to officially write out that they will not post on that forum, I will start it. The only, AND I DO MEAN ONLY persons that I will allow to write on that forum would be The_Web and Wadaltmon.

Are these ok terms?

I agree WW, but why not just make it on webs.com or just add the page that says blog and just write it from, there

Yah, add a blog to your realtechwebs website and so no one else can post only you can

 

[nolder]

Maybe I should convert my old scientistslair website on weebly.

it is possible to turn a blog into a forum? I think you should keep your old website (which we should put a link to on realwebtech, theres useful info there), and I'll make some forums which we can link to on realwebtech. sound good? (EDIT: I didn't mean to sound condescending if I did.)

and if any mods are reading this, I don't mean to take away from superherohype. it's just our little webshooter project has expanded and we need more control over posts

 

[Human-Spider]

Yes please white_widow.

 

[MSaleem]

im with it

 

[White_widow]

Ok, here's what I did. I've converted one of my old websites into the new newbie site. Iron Spider's is for the more advanced.

http://madscientistslair.weebly.com/index.html

This is an introduction to web shooter stuff. Once you've read this site, go to iron spider's.

http://realwebtech.webs.com/

To put it into perspective, my site is to give you the WHY and Iron's gives you the HOW.

To Iron Spider: Will you please add a HOW TO section to your website? I will post instructables for various parts of the web shooter.

To everyone: My website is not at all specific like Iron's. The reason is because it's to get you acquainted with the bare basics. It's like coloring between the lines. I just gave you the lines. Iron's site allows them to be colored in.

 

[White_widow]

I've added a How to section on Iron's new ideas part of the site. Much like my site: please post all questions here, and leave his site alone. It's nice there, and we don't want the clutter.

 

[nolder]

Ok, here's what I did. I've converted one of my old websites into the new newbie site. Iron Spider's is for the more advanced.

http://madscientistslair.weebly.com/index.html

This is an introduction to web shooter stuff. Once you've read this site, go to iron spider's.

http://realwebtech.webs.com/

To put it into perspective, my site is to give you the WHY and Iron's gives you the HOW.

To Iron Spider: Will you please add a HOW TO section to your website? I will post instructables for various parts of the web shooter.

To everyone: My website is not at all specific like Iron's. The reason is because it's to get you acquainted with the bare basics. It's like coloring between the lines. I just gave you the lines. Iron's site allows them to be colored in.

Very nice. I like the additions to both sites

 

[MSaleem]

Iron Spider and White Widow, I read both web sites and found good information. Thanks for the help in helping me understand what I need to know.

Remember the two videos I posted last night? The ones that show how to make a push button trigger? Why not that? I think Nolder said that the PVC would dissolve in the acetate, well lets cover the inside with duct tape or use a copper/metal flexible tubing. As a pressure vessel, lets use CO2. The cartridge would be right infront so when the CO2 is released, it goes through the fluid, and out the nozzle.

WW - What is the water soluble fiber your talking about?

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