What Are The Topics People Don't Agree With You On...

[The Spawn]

...that you feel they should?

Disregard opinion and all that other stuff...when utilizing logic and reason, or even moral...what are the topics people disagree with you on, that you feel they shouldn't?

 

[Buttman]

I voted for: Immigration, Prostitution, Euthansia, and drinking age.

 

[Erzengel]

Technically I think I've discussed almost every one of those topics and there's always 1 or 2 people who have disagreed with me.

 

[The Spawn]

I mean, yeah, sure...there will be at least one disagreement...I'm just want to know which one(s) you find hard to believe that people disagree with you.

Like slavery.

 

[Buttman]

Bare in mind, this is relation to the UK unless otherwise stated -

Immigration, Prostitution, Euthansia, and drinking age

Immigration -

In England we have roughly the same ammount of people going out as we have coming in. So many people are leaving to live in sunnier countries, mostly Spain. Hell, we've pretty much taken over Spain. I think it's a really lazy, and racist excuse to pull any of that "They're takin' our jobs!" crap. If they've took your job, it's because they're better at it than you, just like any ordinary "English" person would.

Prostitution -

I really don't see why this is such a big issue. I don't care what people do on their own time, or what they spend their money on, or what someone is pushed to do for money. If prostitution was legalised, we could cut down on the STDs because they could get propper health care. I really don't think "business" would boom if it was legalised either. The way I see it, the people who have no option but pay to get laid, are gonna do it whether it's legal or illegal.

Euthansia -

I really find it hypocritical and wrong for someone completely healthy to say to someone mortally ill "No, you can't kill yourself peacefully because it's wrong!" Well, **** you, you stuck up prick. What ever happened to freedom of choice? I think if someone is in so much pain that they want to kill themselves, they should absolutely be allowed too. No one should even bat an eye.

Drinking age -

18 works fine here, I think America should take it aswell. Our driving age is higher than yours though. Lower drinking age, higher driving age. I think we have it better/safer.

 

[The Chairman]

My gosh, there's a ton.

Gay Rights - I'm a big supporter of them. I am a Christian (though I view it as a lifestyle for me rather than a religion), and I very firm believer in God and The Bible, but 100 % support gay marriage. My personal belief is that God truly doesn't care who you love, as long as you're happy. I don't view gays as abnormal. At first, it may seem that way, but once you realize their essentially experiencing and feeling the exact same emotions as straight couples, who they love is irrelevant to me. It's that they truly do love each other that matters to me.

I also don't feel that gays should have hide their identities in the military, although I can see why they do that, as homophobia can be an issue among the workplace, and the military is no exception.

Smoking - I'm against it. I lost both my grandmothers to lung cancer, because they abused cigarettes, so I've become a huge anti-cigarette advocate. I know many people will disagree with me, but I find it to be absolutely disgusting and liken it to a slow suicide. It's not only bad for people's health (not just those who smoke either), but it's also horrible for the environment and the overall scent, ingredients and sight of one is in gneral rather unpleasant.

Abortion - Again, I'm a Christian, but I'm as pro-choice as they come. I definitely do think abortion is a legitimate option in many cases. For example, if a woman was impregnated through rape and wanted an abortion, I'd support it 100 %. Personally, if I was born through rape, I myself would probably wanted to be aborted. I wouldn't want to grow through life knowing I was conceived from a heinous crime rather than a true act of love and effort. I'd feel like an accident, and no child should feel that way.

Also, if there's a chance the mother or the baby can suffer serious or even fatal health risks, or if the mother is far too young to take care of a child, I once feel abortion is a legitimate option.

Drinking - I personally would lower the drinking age a bit. I'd honestly reverse the drinking and smoking age. I feel drinking is far less harmful than smoking. I wouldn't vehemently campaign for it to be lowered, but my personal belief is what I just stated.

Euthanasia - I forgot to vote for this one, but once again I'm 100 % for it. If a person is sufering that much that their life isn't worth being prolonged, I feel they should be allowed to be let go of. It's a morbid and sad thought, but it's nonetheless what I feel is right.

The Death Penalty - I'm against it. I feel it's giving vicious criminals the easy way out. I believe that people like Saddam Hussein and Timothy McVie should have been allowed to rot in prison rather than be given what I feel was the easy way out.

Mandatory AIDS Testing - It's something everyone should be required to do. It shouldn't need to be mandatory, because everyone should be aware of its importance. However, some people are too ignorant or loose in their sexual activites to ever take notice of its importance. I definitely think it should be required. Not be mention sex is not the only way it can be acquired.

 

[SuperFerret]

The Death Penalty - I'm against it. I feel it's giving vicious criminals the easy way out. I believe that people like Saddam Hussein and Timothy McVie should have been allowed to rot in prison rather than be given what I feel was the easy way out.

I disagree with you here and, as this is one of the choices I selected, I'll explain.

The death penalty is only the 'easy way out' when we let it be easy. Remember the whole 'cruel and unusual' punishment stuff? Yeah, I don't think punishment is cruel or unusual enough. Electric chairs and lethal injections are one thing, but beheadings and the like are another. The punishment should also fit the crime, if someone's an axe murderer, use an axe to execute them, etc.

 

[The Chairman]

I disagree with you here and, as this is one of the choices I selected, I'll explain.

The death penalty is only the 'easy way out' when we let it be easy. Remember the whole 'cruel and unusual' punishment stuff? Yeah, I don't think punishment is cruel or unusual enough. Electric chairs and lethal injections are one thing, but beheadings and the like are another. The punishment should also fit the crime, if someone's an axe murderer, use an axe to execute them, etc.

Well, I disagree. I think punishing them by death makes us no better than the criminals we are punishing. True, my opinion might waver depending on the criminal and the crime (I think if we ever catch Bin Laden, he should be killed in a most unpleasant way, just so we could rid the world of him), but for the most part, I'm strongly against the death penalty.

 

[PhotoJones]

wait...who has an opinion that they wouldn't want people to agree with them on?

this thread's kinda stupid.

 

[The Chairman]

wait...who has an opinion that they wouldn't want people to agree with them on?

this thread's kinda stupid.

That was my initial thought as well.

 

[mightiest_mortal]

Abortion
Go for it, its only a foetus.

Animal Rights
...arnt as important as Humans.

Censorship
is pretty moot thanks to the trusty ol internet.

Corporal Punishment
Hell yeah. I think you should also be allowed to hit other peoples kids if theyre being annoying.

Death Penalty
I think most vaguely serious crimes should be given the death penalty as prisons these days take the piss. People even get satelite TV in prison now... WTF? Punishment shoulld be punishment... either that, or for any offences people should be branded with a large C on the side of their faces so people know theyre criminals.

Decriminalization of Marijuana
Don't see why not. Less people are probably hurt from it than drinking alcohol.

Drinking Age
21 and there should be a lot harsher punishment for kids found drinking before it. I don't think drinkings immoral or anything, I just think that if people start drinking regularly when theyre too young they completely lack the ability to go out and have fun without drinking.

Euthanasia
got no problem with this. Should be their own choice.

Foreign Aid
We shouldn't give any to anyone. Most of these countries were fine and blissful in their ignorance before we started pointing at them and telling them how poor and pathetic they were and giving them handouts to make their lives "acceptable" like ours are.

Gambling
If people want to lose their money let em.

Gay Rights
Shouldn't be an issue, they should just have the same rights as anyone else.

Gun Control
Guns should be banned outright, anyone found with one should be dealt with according to my response in the "Death Penalty" section

Hunting
Its not really hunting anymore, its shooting animals. Hunting used to be a sport... You vs the Animals. Dogs for instance were introduced in hunting Boar, where they were padded completely and fought the boars... so it gave the hunter a chance to kill the Boar without being killed... it was dangerous and it was a sport. How is shooting something that has no way of defending itself at all classed as a sport?

Immigration
Immigrants should not be allowed any benefits. They should be charged 40-50% of their income as "immigrant Tax" as they are GUESTS in the country. Asylum seekers should be packed off back home as soon as their countries are fit for them to go back again. No exceptions.

Mandatory AIDS Testing
LOL Its this kind of paranoia thats gonna help when i start selling AIDS Insurance. Its nowhere near as common in this country as the media like to make out. Infact if you go to a doctor and ask for a test... If you havnt had lots of symptons or been having gay sex, theyl pretty much laugh you out of the building.

Mandatory Drug Testing
Who cares what people are doing in their own time? As long as it doenst affect anything important its their own choice.

NASA Space Program
Is the biggest Scam anyones ever come up with. Get paid BILLIONS of pounds to send people into space.. and then just make a video. I love it.

Nuclear Power
Its pretty much the ONLY viable alternative for our future fuel problems and WILL be adopted more and more as traditional fossil fuels become less available. We'l jjust fling all the nuclear waste out into space. All this wind and water power stuff is pants.

Prostitution
Peoples own choice. If it was legalised it could probably even become better regulated to help ensure people arent just being exploited.

School Prayer
Lame

Smoking
If its banned in public.. and in homes with Children... people can do what they like in their own time as far as im concerned.

Surrogacy
Is this even an issue?

Welfare
Should be slashed CONSIDERABLY. People get too many handouts. People just spend it on alcohol/****/bingo. They need to be trained better for a profession instead.

 

[CConn]

Joss Whedon.

 

[zer00]

incest

 

[Kritish]

Abortion It's the woman's right to choose, nobody should get to say otherwise.

Immigration Get the hell out of my country unless you're a legal that can speak English.

Drinking 17-18 would work just fine.

Gay Rights Let them be married.

Gun Rights Let people at the age of 21 with no record by anything except for uzi's and 50 cal weapons.

Death Penalty We should toss criminals into the La Brea Tar Pits.

Welfare Free healthcare and education.

Prostitution Legalize it and shut up about it.

Weed Who gives a ****? Let pot heads have their plant.

 

[CConn]

Prostitution Legalize it and shut up about it.

It's better that it's illegal. Why? Because it already is basically legal now thanks to the "escort" loophole. Well-put together agencies and women are allowed to perform their services, with - with prostitution technically illegal - the STD-ridden streetwalkers and the abusive pimps are arrested. It's genius, really.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

Abortion -I support a woman`s right to choose.The world is over populated,and this will eventually become legal in the USA.

Animal rights -Animals have been on this planet before us,and i think they should be given more rights.

The death penalty -We must be strict,if not..then crime will never dissapear.

Gay rights -Much like equality,even if there is a law for it..it wont really be held up outside of courts.

Immigration -I dont like to see the USA swamped with hispanics or africans.I support deporting them back to Latin America and Africa.

Prostitution -I support it,it should be legal.Like in Europe,but there would be strict laws.

 

[Addendum]

Abortion - I have no opinion on it

Animal Rights - I have no problem with people who hunt for food, or those who eat meat. That's an individual decision. I also have no problem with animal testing since there have been major advancements for various diseases that affect humanity

Censorship - I'm anti-censorship

Corporal Punishment - It should be up to the parents to use it if they choose. An open-handed smack on the ass isn't the same thing as beating the **** out of your kid for the most minor of things

Death Penalty - I've no problem with it

Decriminalization of Marijuana - I fully support it

Drinking Age - No problem with it lowered or not

Euthanasia - If the patient decides for themselves, I have no problem. I do have a problem when the doctor or nurse makes the choice for the patient

Foreign Aid - I'm skeptical about it

Gambling - If the person is able to gamble without selling their family to the slave trade of a third-world nation, I don't see a problem with it

Gay Rights - I don't see a problem with it. But then, I don't get how the gender of whom one sleeps with has an effect on job performance, their ability to raise a kid, or any other activity that isn't affected by sleeping habits

Government-Funded Health Care - Skeptical

Gun Control - Gun control laws will never prevent criminals from obtaining firearms. I do support mandatory gun safety classes, and a gun license BEFORE one can buy a firearm. If you have to take various tests to get a license to drive, the same should apply to shoot a gun. However, I don't see a logical reason for a private citizen to own an assault rilfe, especially an assault rilfe that wasn't taken from the dying hands of a Nazi that Grandpa shot during the great World War 2.

Hunting - I've no problem with someone hunting

Immigration - Countries have every right to create laws and/or restrictions with regard to people from other countries wanting to live in that country.

Mandatory AIDS Testing - Depends

Mandatory Drug Testing - Depends

NASA Space Program - I don't see a problem with it

Nuclear Power - According to the NPT, the peaceful use of nuclear power is an inalienable right of every nation

Prostitution - It's an individual choice. I don't see a problem with it

School Prayer - Prayer is already in schools. The students and staff can pray if they so choose. There's no need for teacher-led prayer in public schools.

Smoking - It's an individual choce. If someone wants to smoke or not, I'm perfectly fine

Surrogacy - ?

Welfare - ?

 

[WTFimVENOM]

Decriminalization of Marijuana
Don't see why not. Less people are probably hurt from it than drinking alcohol.

Decriminalization of Marijuana - I fully support it

Weed Who gives a ****? Let pot heads have their plant.

 

[Honey Vibe]

This is airheaded, but it really bothers me that people vehemently despise Michael Jackson. Whenever they start berating him, I stay stony and quiet until the subject changes.

...I know what it's like to be a cute-fuzzy harmless person, abundant in love and unable to express it in a way that ducks and spades approve of. If you slip up and trigger their odd-one-out mechanism they'll come after you with blood lust, and destroy you with relish.

 

[ScottyBBadd]

You name and someone disagrees with me on it.

 

[November Rain]

I think the goverment should have far more control over its people and people should have less free will, maybe only on weekends...

choice is taken out of the equation as to your profession and you are given a job which is believed to yield your greatest ability

schools take a less relaxed roll to learning where all the social growth usually comes in one's second childhood when retirement roles in...

entertainment is far too controlling of what we do and say and they have to great a monopoly over us, some forms of entertainment would be banned or at least controlled since it has such a powerful influence on an individual.

advertising would be far more creative and less smutty and sleazy.

Religion would be practised but if one felt that it gave way to the way a place was run and governed, then i'd prefer if they uprooted and left the area if they truelly thought no middle ground could be reached

definitely a destruction of all kinds of nuclear war head type and army based weaponary and the resources of these scientist would be used to find safe and clean methods of preserving the earth.

differences between nations would be settled in an olympic style event where the best athlethes and brains of that nation would go up against the brains and athlethes of another nation in a televised event sponsored by Mcdonalds. Wars don't require bloodshed, we are told from a young age that violence is not the answer, yet anytime there is conflict, violence isn't used as a method of coming to terms with your 'enemy' but really silencing their voice so there 'is' no more conflict, it's ultimately stupid.

I'd simply put a stupid fat tax on fast food, fast food is a luxury and people normally pay for luxuries, if you can't afford it, thenyou have to buy the healthy foods in stead. At the moment it is the other way round and i think that's wrong, being obese should be a privelege, one that means you can afford to have your own private health care because you'd certainly be struck off the national health service if you were in that condition (but the way the system was set up, means it would work).

Also people wouldn't be trusted to keep themselves healthy, incentives, such as a reduction of cars and more of an incentive to use public and non polluting transport, as well as tax cutting targets that refer to your health that would benefit simply things like one's mortgage and salary could also help plenty shift the bulk. Money and convinience is a great motivator, you only have to see that if points were not taken off somone's license for drink driving or careless driving, there would be less of a dent in the statistics. people don't care about their health of the health of others, they care about penalties, fines and losing their freedom. If basic lifestyle changes or protocol made by the government also took this approach to managing their citizens, then they would be less malnutritioned unhealthy members of a society

also i would have controlled breeding, where males sperm is either collected on immigration or when puberty hits a native members. Socio-economic tests would then be performed to make sure a stable population is maintained with small variations in class so a child from any family has an equal opportunity to suceed in life than any other. Couples would then need to have the same amount of tests performed on them to see if they were goign to adopt then if they were going to breed naturally. Also for every child being born, the family would have to monitor another child of another ethnic genetic make up. This would help show that there is less differences between race and religion than many would expect and would help breed not a multicultural society, but a truelly multicultural nation with far less segregation if any.

oh, there would also be mandatory std and health tests, this comes in tally with the health incentives mentioned earlier, the productivity of a nation is directly proportional the the amount of people in its dependant age demographic that are healthy enough to work, sick people take a drain of this limit and regular examinations to either stamp out or catch diseases early is the best ways to do this.

a short one but i would say that public servants of the normal working trade, the invisible people that keep our lives running (milkmen, postmen, firemen, nurses, taxi drivers, roadsweepers, refuse site workers) should get the majority of the money. Anyone who gives up their lives to serve others should be more rewarded than the ones they are serving. This should breed through greed a more self sufficient nation that will eventually be able to take care of itself


oh and general trade would also be re-taught in schools, mechanics, electrician work, bricklaying, tiling, plaster laying. With the surplus of people with these skills, you'd only be about two degrees of separation away from anyone who could be able to help you pro bono (simply because you would be able to return the favour with your own skill you learned).

That's about it i suppose...

i don't think these are bad ideas but from previous threads i've made, people do think i'm a lil nazi..

 

[Addendum]

I think the goverment should have far more control over its people and people should have less free will, maybe only on weekends...

choice is taken out of the equation as to your profession and you are given a job which is believed to yield your greatest ability

schools take a less relaxed roll to learning where all the social growth usually comes in one's second childhood when retirement roles in...

entertainment is far too controlling of what we do and say and they have to great a monopoly over us, some forms of entertainment would be banned or at least controlled since it has such a powerful influence on an individual.

advertising would be far more creative and less smutty and sleazy.

Religion would be practised but if one felt that it gave way to the way a place was run and governed, then i'd prefer if they uprooted and left the area if they truelly thought no middle ground could be reached

definitely a destruction of all kinds of nuclear war head type and army based weaponary and the resources of these scientist would be used to find safe and clean methods of preserving the earth.

differences between nations would be settled in an olympic style event where the best athlethes and brains of that nation would go up against the brains and athlethes of another nation in a televised event sponsored by Mcdonalds. Wars don't require bloodshed, we are told from a young age that violence is not the answer, yet anytime there is conflict, violence isn't used as a method of coming to terms with your 'enemy' but really silencing their voice so there 'is' no more conflict, it's ultimately stupid.

I'd simply put a stupid fat tax on fast food, fast food is a luxury and people normally pay for luxuries, if you can't afford it, thenyou have to buy the healthy foods in stead. At the moment it is the other way round and i think that's wrong, being obese should be a privelege, one that means you can afford to have your own private health care because you'd certainly be struck off the national health service if you were in that condition (but the way the system was set up, means it would work).

Also people wouldn't be trusted to keep themselves healthy, incentives, such as a reduction of cars and more of an incentive to use public and non polluting transport, as well as tax cutting targets that refer to your health that would benefit simply things like one's mortgage and salary could also help plenty shift the bulk. Money and convinience is a great motivator, you only have to see that if points were not taken off somone's license for drink driving or careless driving, there would be less of a dent in the statistics. people don't care about their health of the health of others, they care about penalties, fines and losing their freedom. If basic lifestyle changes or protocol made by the government also took this approach to managing their citizens, then they would be less malnutritioned unhealthy members of a society

also i would have controlled breeding, where males sperm is either collected on immigration or when puberty hits a native members. Socio-economic tests would then be performed to make sure a stable population is maintained with small variations in class so a child from any family has an equal opportunity to suceed in life than any other. Couples would then need to have the same amount of tests performed on them to see if they were goign to adopt then if they were going to breed naturally. Also for every child being born, the family would have to monitor another child of another ethnic genetic make up. This would help show that there is less differences between race and religion than many would expect and would help breed not a multicultural society, but a truelly multicultural nation with far less segregation if any.

oh, there would also be mandatory std and health tests, this comes in tally with the health incentives mentioned earlier, the productivity of a nation is directly proportional the the amount of people in its dependant age demographic that are healthy enough to work, sick people take a drain of this limit and regular examinations to either stamp out or catch diseases early is the best ways to do this.

a short one but i would say that public servants of the normal working trade, the invisible people that keep our lives running (milkmen, postmen, firemen, nurses, taxi drivers, roadsweepers, refuse site workers) should get the majority of the money. Anyone who gives up their lives to serve others should be more rewarded than the ones they are serving. This should breed through greed a more self sufficient nation that will eventually be able to take care of itself


oh and general trade would also be re-taught in schools, mechanics, electrician work, bricklaying, tiling, plaster laying. With the surplus of people with these skills, you'd only be about two degrees of separation away from anyone who could be able to help you pro bono (simply because you would be able to return the favour with your own skill you learned).

That's about it i suppose...

i don't think these are bad ideas but from previous threads i've made, people do think i'm a lil nazi..

Hey Kids!!! It's tongue-in-cheek time!!

 

[X-Chick]

Gay rights - why shouldn't they be allowed to get married. People are so narrow-minded and stupid sometimes.

Death penalty - I still don't see what's wrong it. Yeah, let's be nice to the guy who slaughtered 4 teenage girls for no reason.

School prayer - Forcing a religion on anyone is just ludicrous and wrong.

 

[The Spawn]

I already explained the purpose of the thread, if you don't get it, be a man and admit it.

 

[redmarvel]

Technically I think I've discussed almost every one of those topics and there's always 1 or 2 people who have disagreed with me.

Same here... don't those people know that I'm ALWAYS right

Under my "other" category would be the importance of comic books and which movies deserve to win awards.