What do you consider to be the biggest defeat by the following DC heroes?

[LadyVader]

Getting "raped" buy a woman is buy far the lowest moment in any male superheros career. Everytime someone mentions his life story, they will say," he was the robin that got raped buy a woman as an adult".t:

I think it's a pretty safe bet he will be remembered as "the first Robin". Besides, you don't know what Tim Drake will be up to as an adult.

 

[Aristotle]

Superman - Doomsday. He ****in' killed the guy, you know?
Batman - Yeah, Bane was pretty substantial, breaking his back and all, but I have to say the Joker killing Jason was bigger. You don't come back from that (well, you do, but it's different, and you're a villain. Which is pretty bad too.)
Wonder Woman - Probly that one time.
Green Lantern/Hal Jordan - Parallax warping his ass. Or if you didn't like Rebirth, himself.
Green Lantern/Kyle - Girlfriend in the fridge. What else is there?
Green Lantern/John - Whoever ******* decided it was a good idea to cancel Mosaic. Man, what the ****? I got everything ever published under the banner of Green Lantern, and a lot of appearances in other titles. And let me tell you, none of them is as consistently good, thought-provoking, entertaining, and original, as Mosaic was.
Green Lantern/Alan - C'mon, that guy never loses. He's the most powerful being in the universe, except for Kyle as Ion.
Green Lantern/Guy - Getting pwned by the Guardians. Man, that suuuuuuuucks.
The Flash/Barry Allen - Reverse-Flash. I mean, it wasn't really a victory for him, but it sure was a defeat for Barry. Barry killed a guy, and he really didn't have to.
The Flash/Wally West - Going into the Speed-Force. I mean, he's ****in' gone, ain't he?
Aquaman - Dumbass editors turning the series into Sword-and-Sorcery ****. Well, that, and the worst ending to a story ever for the final pre-OYL issue. Can someone explain to me what the FOCK that ending meant? ****in' seahorses getting big when you feed them? Seriously, man, what the ****?
Nightwing/Robin I - Breaking up with Babs.
Robin II - Gettin' killed in the face.
Robin III - Not getting to his father in time to save him.

 

[The Leaguer]

Every single hero ever: this forum.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

I say for Aquaman its getting his hand eaten by pirahnas (give me a cookie if I spelled that right)

Or his son being killed. Never read the story, but you can assume.

And for the Flash I'd probably say when Zoom snapped his fingers, but with the use of time travel that was set right. So maybe I'll say when Barry was made a murderer when he snapped the Reverse Flashs neck.

Somehow, I can see that happening.


"Orin, I killed your son." And somewhere in the background, Darthphere is standing there yelling, "PWND!!!"

 

[Darthphere]

Sounds like a pitch for DC I made.

 

[Varient]

Superman - doomsday
Batman - Bane
Wonder Woman - Loss of her title, replaced by a redhead with a tude.
Green Lantern (any) Parallax,
The Flash (any)Crisis on infinite earths
Aquaman - Hmph,.. Pick one,..
Nightwing/Robin

Death of Parents,.. period.

 

[Kebab gud]

Superman - Doomsday "killing" Supes
Batman - Joker killing Jason
Wonder Woman - killing Max Lord
Green Lantern - Girlfriend in the fridge (Kyle)
The Flash - The whole Zoom thing (Barry)
Aquaman - The death of his son
Nightwing/Robin - Beeing raped (trust me.. its just as hard for a man to deal with it as a woman..)

But why stop with them?
Fire - the death of Ice
Black Canary - The torture in seattle
Green Arrow - Dr.light destroying 1/3 of Star city and Merlyn pushing 2 arrows through his chest.

 

[Anubis]

I really don't see why people keep putting up Supes death as a defeat. He did kill Doomsday too. He saved the world that day. That's not a defeat at all.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

He "died." I'd say getting shut down that hard is being defeated.

 

[Anubis]

Well if that's the case, everybody that ever sacrificed themselves and took out the person they were fighting in the process lost as well.

 

[sethcohen]

He "died." I'd say getting shut down that hard is being defeated.

i dont necessarily disagree, but i do see where people are coming from... supes wouldnt view it as a defeat... he stopped a monster from wreaking havok and carnage with his last dying breath... supes would see it as a win...

and for flash (bart) id say the day bilson and demao started writing him...

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Hawkman wouldn't view his death as truly dying either. It's just how we feel about things, really.

 

[incubat]

i think i agree with superman's biggest defeat being killing zod in the pocket universe. superman's most important rule is not killing, he did it in doomsday's case because, well, he had no other choice, and he died in the process, but with zod he had another choice, but he still prefered to kill them, which means he lost his way, thus, his biggest defeat

 

[Kenda Man]

and for flash (bart) id say the day bilson and demao started writing him...

Lol, but one that did happen before that was when Deathstroke( or could it be Jericho possessing Deathstroke?) shot bart with a tranqualizer and blasted Bart's knee with a shotgun. I thought it was silly that the second it healed Bart raced to the library and after reading every book, he "matured." That is something that happens with time and I didn't remember Bart getting Wally's approval to be the new Kid Flash.

 

[Aristotle]

I really don't see why people keep putting up Supes death as a defeat. He did kill Doomsday too. He saved the world that day. That's not a defeat at all.

The guy was dead. I don't care what he thought about it. He got defeated. He may not have LOST...but he got defeated.

 

[Darthphere]

I really don't see why people keep putting up Supes death as a defeat. He did kill Doomsday too. He saved the world that day. That's not a defeat at all.

What about not being able to stop Lois from being shot?

 

[Eros]

What about not being able to stop Lois from being shot?

or all those badly written batman prep time defeats.

 

[incubat]

or all those badly written batman prep time defeats.

hey...they're not badly written

 

[Anubis]

The guy was dead. I don't care what he thought about it. He got defeated. He may not have LOST...but he got defeated.

Because a defeat is when you lose, and this is the biggest deafeat thread. Supes didn't lose. He sacrificed himself to save the world. That is not a defeat. He accomplished exactly what he set out to. If he lost, Doomsday would have survivied, and then destroyed every living thing on the planet.

having his mind taken over by Max Lord and nearly killing Bat's, that's a defeat. Being forced to exicute three people, going against everything he ever believed, that's a defeat. Taking out a monster and dying in the process? That's saving the day.

 

[CBG]

Batman has not been more broken than at the hands of Emperor Joker.

 

[Harlekin]

Lol, but one that did happen before that was when Deathstroke( or could it be Jericho possessing Deathstroke?) shot bart with a tranqualizer and blasted Bart's knee with a shotgun. I thought it was silly that the second it healed Bart raced to the library and after reading every book, he "matured."

It didn't mature him at all. It just made him spout off random trivia/science info.

That is something that happens with time and I didn't remember Bart getting Wally's approval to be the new Kid Flash.

Wally had been pushing him to be Kid Flash since, well, practically since Bart had come to this time period.

 

[Aristotle]

or all those badly written batman prep time defeats.

Awwww...has oo get de sniffoos because Batman beat your pwecious Soopooman?

 

[Aristotle]

Because a defeat is when you lose, and this is the biggest deafeat thread. Supes didn't lose. He sacrificed himself to save the world. That is not a defeat. He accomplished exactly what he set out to. If he lost, Doomsday would have survivied, and then destroyed every living thing on the planet.

having his mind taken over by Max Lord and nearly killing Bat's, that's a defeat. Being forced to exicute three people, going against everything he ever believed, that's a defeat. Taking out a monster and dying in the process? That's saving the day.

Yeah, but he doesn't survive to defend the planet from other threats. Well, he does, but that's not the point. If the real Superman is alive and at full strength during Mongul's invasion of Earth, Hal Jordan probably doesn't go nuts. Or at least, not yet. And then Superman can set him down when he does.

 

[Guyverjay]

Because a defeat is when you lose, and this is the biggest deafeat thread. Supes didn't lose. He sacrificed himself to save the world. That is not a defeat. He accomplished exactly what he set out to. If he lost, Doomsday would have survivied, and then destroyed every living thing on the planet.

having his mind taken over by Max Lord and nearly killing Bat's, that's a defeat. Being forced to exicute three people, going against everything he ever believed, that's a defeat. Taking out a monster and dying in the process? That's saving the day.

Bleh how was he forced? the kryptonians were powerless

 

[Anubis]

They swore they'd get their powers back, find a way to his Earth, and kill everybody there. Sure he coulda said, "And I could pull a cheese wheel outta my ass, but it's not gonna happen." But when you're talking three people that turned they're Earth into a dead wasteland, having killed billions, well, you can't really just shrug off a threat like that. He did what he had too. Even though it went against what he believed in. And as a result, he went a little mad, exiled himself, and grew a funky beard on War World.

Yeah, but he doesn't survive to defend the planet from other threats. Well, he does, but that's not the point. If the real Superman is alive and at full strength during Mongul's invasion of Earth, Hal Jordan probably doesn't go nuts. Or at least, not yet. And then Superman can set him down when he does.

What happens afterward doesn't matter. He stopped the imidiate threat. He saved the day with his sacrifice. That is not a defeat.