Transformers What do you think of the Transformers?

[roach]

Actually it's 7/4/07

you are correct

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

thats pretty sick, now all we need is about 100 of them to malfunction and turn evil and another 100 that are good, and have an all out fight between them. Transformers sequel possibly????? hmmmmmm

I just think it's so fascinating how organic-like Asimo can move. Whoever said boxy designs aren't capable of fluid movements has clearly not seen the amazing Asimo. Of course if I ever owned one, I'd definately request that his voice sound like C-3PO though.

 

[Avangarde]

Yeah gotta get me a Asimo, handy around the home.

 

[fenox]

thats pretty sick, now all we need is about 100 of them to malfunction and turn evil and another 100 that are good, and have an all out fight between them. Transformers sequel possibly????? hmmmmmm

UMMMM


I GOT THE PURFECT NAME FOR IT...............I,ROBOT. t:

 

[Knightsaber Priss]

Asimo for President!

 

[God'z-illa]

I loved them as a kid, but I fear Bay is going to turn this into yet another one of his cliche-ridden hackfests.

I mean what do you expect? the only good movies he ever did were The Rock and Bad Boys

 

[thegameq]

To be fair, who would have thought that Sam Raimi would have brought us those masterpieces. (Me! That's who! I love the guy!)...

Seriously, I'm all for giving Bay a chance. My only problem is that all indications are that he hasn't matured one iota. He's still the same crappy filmmaker with the skills for eye candy, but no real substance. This was his chance to make a Cameron/Spielberg-esque *real* sci-fi movie for the ages... but instead he's giving us another product placement filled, cliche-ridden, unoriginal fluff piece. It's a shame.

Exactly. By bringing Bay in to direct this film it's a dead giveaway that the studio obviously isn't aiming high (LOTR, SM, etc.). I don't understand the mentality behind this decision other than to simply cash in quickly on the scifi/fantasy genre and the cache the property carries. Why didn't Spielberg helm this himself--was Bay honestly the best director he could find for the job? Or maybe Spielberg himself isn't aiming that high?

 

[thegameq]

I don't think anyone sets out saying, get me the worst director possible. I think they take the director that will take the film. Sometimes the studio will go out of it's way to get a specific director. Sometimes a director will come to them. But, I think most times, they just take the director that will do it. They might not be the best one for the job, but if they're the only one that will do it, what choice do you have? I think a good example of a great director not wanting to direct this movie, is Spielberg. For some reason, he's not directing, just producing. I think rather than just flat out bash Bay, you should question Spielberg.

If that's how it truly works in H-wood no wonder the ratio of bad to good movies is so large. With that method no studio has a right to complain when a film doesn't do well. Then again I guess it just shows a studio's intention.

I don't know about Spielberg anymore, he seems to still have the magic, but he has been easily supplanted IMO by Jackson. Jackson is the kind of director I have longed for; an artist, a fan, a visionary, a fanboy all rapped up in one. He and Raimi have managed to make the kind of films that both Spielberg and Lucas have yet to make. Don't get me wrong Spielberg's and Lucas's films are still considered benchmarks by some generations and are still great/remarkable films. But LOTR, KK.....I love the care and attention that clearly went into those films. It's obvious PJ set out to make art and not just another typical low to mid-grade scifi/fantasy film.

I believe it's been stated before in this board and others that none of the big name directors are eager to take on projects where there are already well established pre-conceived notions of the characters and story because they don't want to deal with the fans and the amount of scrutiny. ...I can understand that. But to me that just sounds like another way of saying, "If I can't do it the way I want, then I don't want to do it".

That's what I wanted and expected for Transformers (and X-films, etc., etc.). I know some would argue that I'm asking to much from a film based on toys (i.e. marketing), but as a child we viewed the Transformers as great scifi storytelling. All I'm asking for is to tell another great scifi story. After all it's been proven that great storytelling, fantasy and box office success can exist side by side.

 

[CFlash]

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Well said!!!!
(though I think Spielberg still has the touch. Raimi and Jackson haven't so much supplanted the likes of Spielberg but of Emmerich and Michael Bay instead)

 

[Tad Fatherton]

is scorponok a giant scorpion in this movie, or a little tiny scorpion? either way, why did that robot turn into an insect instead of a motorized vehicle? or did it change at all, is that it's cybertron look? does it ever transform into robot mode in the movie?

 

[thegameq]

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Well said!!!!
(though I think Spielberg still has the touch. Raimi and Jackson haven't so much supplanted the likes of Spielberg but of Emmerich and Michael Bay instead)

thanks.

Spielberg and Lucas are old school, fun type of fantasy which I still enjoy. But Jackson's films are artistic without the alienation that some artistic directors cause with their visual style (cough*Burton*cough). More importantly he seems to treat the genre with utmost sincerity, seriousness and respect. Not that spielberg and Lucas don't, I just feel they approach the fantasy genre differently than Jackson.

Raimi's films I've always enjoyed. Raimi has never had the budget to do a full blown fantasy film and his past efforts show it. To be fair, most of the accolades for Raimi are because of his nearly unbridled vision of Spider-man. It was just so refreshing and enjoyable to see a comicbook character done right (or as close as can be for now), no holds barred fantasy. The last comicbook movie I saw that was the product of an unbridled vision was SM:TM--no holds barred fantasy.

Emmerich and Bay are what they are; crowd pleasers (and no doubt studio pleasers. Studios probably love directors like Bay and Emmerich because they know what they're getting. No major risk factor with those two. Crowd pleaser=85-95% guaranteed money in the bank.) They're movies are like comicbooks where every other page is a splash page (cough*Image*cough).