What does it mean to be black?

[Alina]

being black means you were descended from African lineage and have a higher amount of melanin in your skin than white people due to climate affecting evolution...that's all...you're not special

All the human beings are special in their own way, but it has nothing to do with the skin colour. It's all about the amount of melanin, you're right.

 

[Joker]

All the human beings are special in their own way, but it has nothing to do with the skin colour. It's all about the amount of melanin, you're right.

no, not a single human being is special in any way, shape, or form...that's like saying every cancer cell is special...

 

[Alina]

Come on, man, you won't find two people alike in this wolrd. Ever. And I don't think the comparison with the cancer cells is appropriate.

 

[chamber-music]

no, not a single human being is special in any way, shape, or form...that's like saying every cancer cell is special...

I take it your not a people person

 

[Quietstorm]

I take it your not a people person

It's The Joker, of course he isn't

 

[Quietstorm]

I'm ready for a revolution but not the kind you are probably referring to.

By the way revolution in latin means "a turn around".

Malcolm X said that a revolution is overthrowing the system and the system that is in place now is oppressing and exploiting not only blacks but the majority of Americans.

That's exactly what I'm referring to. Black folks need more marches against black on black crime. We are doing things to each other that your Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons preach against. We need to first address our own problems because right after The Jena Six, the same dudes who were wearing all black, protesting, went right back to gang banging and slanging dope.

What kind of since does that make?

 

[chamber-music]

That's exactly what I'm referring to. Black folks need more marches against black on black crime. We are doing things to each other that your Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons preach against. We need to first address our own problems because right after The Jena Six, the same dudes who were wearing all black, protesting, went right back to gang banging and slanging dope.

What kind of since does that make?

Their are a alot of black people trying to stop black on black crime and speak ouut about it. Unfortunatley they don't get enough publicity or support.

 

[Quietstorm]

Their are a alot of black people trying to stop black on black crime and speak ouut about it. Unfortunatley they don't get enough publicity or support.

We don't support each other, that's another problem. Don't get me started on the media.

 

[raybia]

No.

I ready for an Human Revolution against the Conspirators who have taken over and run a Worldwide Government order.

 

[Bat-Mite]

Their are a alot of black people trying to stop black on black crime and speak ouut about it. Unfortunatley they don't get enough publicity or support.

When Bill Cosby tries to do something about that kind of thing, he gets called a racist. Surprise, surprise.

lol @ the idea of someone being racist against their own kind. I mean, I know it does happen in rare circumstances, but Cosby obviously isn't one of those cases.

 

[raybia]

no, not a single human being is special in any way, shape, or form...that's like saying every cancer cell is special...

I beg to differ. Every single human being is special due to their human potential and history has shown us countless individual special people that mankind in indebted to for pushing along human progress.

I do agree though that there are people who can be like a cancer cell and history shows us plenty examples. People who look human but who have lost their humanity. These are the people that are enemies of Humanity and they are all around us.

 

[raybia]

When Bill Cosby tries to do something about that kind of thing, he gets called a racist. Surprise, surprise.

lol @ the idea of someone being racist against their own kind. I mean, I know it does happen in rare circumstances, but Cosby obviously isn't one of those cases.

Click on my sig

 

[raybia]

That's exactly what I'm referring to. Black folks need more marches against black on black crime. We are doing things to each other that your Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons preach against. We need to first address our own problems because right after The Jena Six, the same dudes who were wearing all black, protesting, went right back to gang banging and slanging dope.

What kind of since does that make?

Their are a alot of black people trying to stop black on black crime and speak ouut about it. Unfortunatley they don't get enough publicity or support.

I would say that right now the Black community as a whole is its worst enemy. Bill Cosby in his new book talks about what we need to do to fix our predicament.

Click my sig.

 

[chamber-music]

I would say that right now the Black community as a whole is its worst enemy. Bill Cosby in his new book talks about what we need to do to fix our predicament.

Click my sig.

Are you Bill Cosbys publisher? t:

But seriously I've heard cosbys views his got some good points. I was just saying their are those in the community trying to make a difference and they aren't getting their voice heard.

 

[BlackLantern]

Are you Bill Cosbys publisher? t:

But seriously I've heard cosbys views his got some good points. I was just saying their are those in the community trying to make a difference and they aren't getting their voice heard.

The reason their voice isnt being heard is because the black community won't listen to someone who isn't considered "down".....I was watching a roundtable discussion, on BET, of all places and it had T.I., Nelly, a columnist from the Washington Post, and a Professor from University of Maryland. The professor had a bit of a funny voice and you could hear people in the audience chuckling even though he was presenting insightful and intelligent points, its like people were only paying attention to T.I. and Nelly....even tho nelly did have a few good points about the media perception and what sells and what doesnt

 

[raybia]

Are you Bill Cosbys publisher? t:

But seriously I've heard cosbys views his got some good points. I was just saying their are those in the community trying to make a difference and they aren't getting their voice heard.

No but its a book that I'm reading and so far its an excellent book that is both brutally honest but offers solutions. Tough love I call it.

Unfortunately it seems this book is being ignored.

With all of the resources and people like Bill Cosby who honestly wants to help his people there is no excuses for us as a people to uplift ourselves.

Until we do, we will deserve what comes our collective way.

 

[chamber-music]

The reason their voice isnt being heard is because the black community won't listen to someone who isn't considered "down".....I was watching a roundtable discussion, on BET, of all places and it had T.I., Nelly, a columnist from the Washington Post, and a Professor from University of Maryland. The professor had a bit of a funny voice and you could hear people in the audience chuckling even though he was presenting insightful and intelligent points, its like people were only paying attention to T.I. and Nelly....even tho nelly did have a few good points about the media perception and what sells and what doesnt

I hate when people are like that. I would much rather hear what professor has to say than a rapper. Most rappers talk out their butts.

 

[Denny67]

No.

I ready for an Human Revolution against the Conspirators who have taken over and run a Worldwide Government order.

You are the first person I have seen in a very long time that actually sees where the real issue lays.

Well done sir.

 

[raybia]

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[raybia]

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[raybia]

You are the first person I have seen in a very long time that actually sees where the real issue lays.

Well done sir.

Thanks but for a long time I was blind to the true and I'm still not completely awake to the magnitude of this. However knowledge is the key.

If you can find it get this book.

http://www.amazon.com/Conspirators-...=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1196537551&sr=8-7


Here is a little info that summaries the problem



Introduction

There is a worldwide conspiracy being orchestrated by an extremely powerful and influential group of genetically-related individuals (at least at the highest echelons) which include many of the world's wealthiest people, top political leaders, and corporate elite, as well as members of the so-called Black Nobility of Europe (dominated by the British Crown) whose goal is to create a One World (fascist) Government, stripped of nationalistic and regional boundaries, that is obedient to their agenda. Their intention is to effect complete and total control over every human being on the planet and to dramatically reduce the world's population by 5.5 Billion people. While the name New World Order is a term frequently used today when referring to this group, it's more useful to identify the principal organizations, institutions, and individuals who make up this vast interlocking spiderweb of elite conspirators.

The Illuminati is the oldest term commonly used to refer to the 13 bloodline families (and their offshoots) that make up a major portion of this controlling elite. Most members of the Illuminati are also members in the highest ranks of numerous secretive and occult societies which in many cases extend straight back into the ancient world. The upper levels of the tightly compartmentalized (need-to-know-basis) Illuminati structural pyramid include planning committees and organizations that the public has little or no knowledge of. The upper levels of the Illuminati pyramid include secretive committees with names such as: the Council of 3, the Council of 5, the Council of 7, the Council of 9, the Council of 13, the Council of 33, the Grand Druid Council, the Committee of 300 (also called the "Olympians") and the Committee of 500 among others.

In 1992, Dr John Coleman published Conspirators' Hierarchy: The Story of the Committee of 300. With laudable scholarship and meticulous research, Dr Coleman identifies the players and carefully details the Illuminati agenda of worldwide domination and control. On page 161 of the Conspirators Hierarchy, Dr Coleman accurately summarizes the intent and purpose of the Committee of 300 as follows:

"A One World Government and one-unit monetary system, under permanent non-elected hereditary oligarchists who self-select from among their numbers in the form of a feudal system as it was in the Middle Ages. In this One World entity, population will be limited by restrictions on the number of children per family, diseases, wars, famines, until 1 billion people who are useful to the ruling class, in areas which will be strictly and clearly defined, remain as the total world population.

There will be no middle class, only rulers and the servants. All laws will be uniform under a legal system of world courts practicing the same unified code of laws, backed up by a One World Government police force and a One World unified military to enforce laws in all former countries where no national boundaries shall exist. The system will be on the basis of a welfare state; those who are obedient and subservient to the One World Government will be rewarded with the means to live; those who are rebellious will simple be starved to death or be declared outlaws, thus a target for anyone who wishes to kill them. Privately owned firearms or weapons of any kind will be prohibited."

The sheer magnitude and complex web of deceit surrounding the individuals and organizations involved in this conspiracy is mind boggling, even for the most astute among us. Most people react with disbelief and skepticism towards the topic, unaware that they have been conditioned (brainwashed) to react with skepticism by institutional and media influences that were created by the Mother of All mind control organizations: The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations in London. Author and de-programmer Fritz Springmeier (The Top 13 Illuminati Bloodlines ) says that most people have built in "slides" that short circuit the mind's critical examination process when it comes to certain sensitive topics. "Slides", Springmeier reports, is a CIA term for a conditioned type of response which dead ends a person's thinking and terminates debate or examination of the topic at hand. For example, the mention of the word "conspiracy" often solicits a slide response with many people. (Springmeier has co-authored three books on trauma-based programming which detail how the Illuminati employs highly tuned and extrememly sophisticated Mind Control (MC) training programs that begin the programming process while the intended victim is still within the womb. Mind Control is a much greater problem than most people realize. According to Cisco Wheeler, a former Illuminati mind control programmer, there are 10 million people who have been programmed as mind controlled slaves using trauma-based MC programs with names like Monarch and MK Ultra. The newer, non-trauma, electronic means of MC programming that grew out of the Montauk Project, may include millions more. Al Bielek, who played a principle role in the development of the Montauk Project, said that there likely 10 million victims of Montauk style mind control programming worldwide, the majority located in the USA. He also said that there are covert Montauk Programming 'Centers' in every major city in the U.S. )

What most Americans believe to be "Public Opinion" is in reality carefully crafted and scripted propaganda designed to elicit a desired behavioral response from the public. Public opinion polls are really taken with the intent of gauging the public's acceptance of the Illuminati's planned programs. A strong showing in the polls tells the Illuminati that the programing is "taking", while a poor showing tells the NWO manipulators that they have to recast or "tweak" the programming until the desired response is achieved. While the thrust and content of the propaganda is decided at Tavistock, implementation of the propaganda is executed in the United States by well over 200 'think tanks' such as the Rand Corporation and the Brookings Institute which are overseen and directed by the top NWO mind control organization in the United States, the Stanford Research Institute (SRI) in Menlo Park, California.

The NWO global conspirators manifest their agenda through the skillful manipulation of human emotions, especially fear. In the past centuries, they have repeatedly utilized a contrivance that NWO researcher and author David Icke has characterized in his latest book, The Biggest Secret, as Problem, Reaction, and Solution.






http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/

 

[BlackLantern]

Raybia...I've always considered you a fairly smart guy...do not tell me you fall for this one world order crap

 

[raybia]

Raybia...I've always considered you a fairly smart guy...do not tell me you fall for this one world order crap

The sheer magnitude and complex web of deceit surrounding the individuals and organizations involved in this conspiracy is mind boggling, even for the most astute among us. Most people react with disbelief and skepticism towards the topic, unaware that they have been conditioned (brainwashed) to react with skepticism by institutional and media influences that were created by the Mother of All mind control organizations: The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations in London. Author and de-programmer Fritz Springmeier (The Top 13 Illuminati Bloodlines ) says that most people have built in "slides" that short circuit the mind's critical examination process when it comes to certain sensitive topics. "Slides", Springmeier reports, is a CIA term for a conditioned type of response which dead ends a person's thinking and terminates debate or examination of the topic at hand. For example, the mention of the word "conspiracy" often solicits a slide response with many people.

I don't accept or reject anything based on Public opinion.

Before coming to your conclusion on this subject why don't you keep an open mind and do some research.

Try finding these two books for starters:

http://www.amazon.com/Conspirators-...=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1196537551&sr=8-7


http://www.amazon.com/World-Order-O...bs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1196540590&sr=1-3


Like I said, be willing to keep an open mind and use your rational and critical mind to come to your conclusion but don't simply dismiss this out of fear, ridicule or public opinion.

 

[Denny67]

Thanks but for a long time I was blind to the true and I'm still not completely awake to the magnitude of this. However knowledge is the key.

If you can find it get this book.

http://www.amazon.com/Conspirators-...=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1196537551&sr=8-7


Here is a little info that summaries the problem



Introduction

There is a worldwide conspiracy being orchestrated by an extremely powerful and influential group of genetically-related individuals (at least at the highest echelons) which include many of the world's wealthiest people, top political leaders, and corporate elite, as well as members of the so-called Black Nobility of Europe (dominated by the British Crown) whose goal is to create a One World (fascist) Government, stripped of nationalistic and regional boundaries, that is obedient to their agenda. Their intention is to effect complete and total control over every human being on the planet and to dramatically reduce the world's population by 5.5 Billion people. While the name New World Order is a term frequently used today when referring to this group, it's more useful to identify the principal organizations, institutions, and individuals who make up this vast interlocking spiderweb of elite conspirators.

The Illuminati is the oldest term commonly used to refer to the 13 bloodline families (and their offshoots) that make up a major portion of this controlling elite. Most members of the Illuminati are also members in the highest ranks of numerous secretive and occult societies which in many cases extend straight back into the ancient world. The upper levels of the tightly compartmentalized (need-to-know-basis) Illuminati structural pyramid include planning committees and organizations that the public has little or no knowledge of. The upper levels of the Illuminati pyramid include secretive committees with names such as: the Council of 3, the Council of 5, the Council of 7, the Council of 9, the Council of 13, the Council of 33, the Grand Druid Council, the Committee of 300 (also called the "Olympians") and the Committee of 500 among others.

In 1992, Dr John Coleman published Conspirators' Hierarchy: The Story of the Committee of 300. With laudable scholarship and meticulous research, Dr Coleman identifies the players and carefully details the Illuminati agenda of worldwide domination and control. On page 161 of the Conspirators Hierarchy, Dr Coleman accurately summarizes the intent and purpose of the Committee of 300 as follows:

"A One World Government and one-unit monetary system, under permanent non-elected hereditary oligarchists who self-select from among their numbers in the form of a feudal system as it was in the Middle Ages. In this One World entity, population will be limited by restrictions on the number of children per family, diseases, wars, famines, until 1 billion people who are useful to the ruling class, in areas which will be strictly and clearly defined, remain as the total world population.

There will be no middle class, only rulers and the servants. All laws will be uniform under a legal system of world courts practicing the same unified code of laws, backed up by a One World Government police force and a One World unified military to enforce laws in all former countries where no national boundaries shall exist. The system will be on the basis of a welfare state; those who are obedient and subservient to the One World Government will be rewarded with the means to live; those who are rebellious will simple be starved to death or be declared outlaws, thus a target for anyone who wishes to kill them. Privately owned firearms or weapons of any kind will be prohibited."

The sheer magnitude and complex web of deceit surrounding the individuals and organizations involved in this conspiracy is mind boggling, even for the most astute among us. Most people react with disbelief and skepticism towards the topic, unaware that they have been conditioned (brainwashed) to react with skepticism by institutional and media influences that were created by the Mother of All mind control organizations: The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations in London. Author and de-programmer Fritz Springmeier (The Top 13 Illuminati Bloodlines ) says that most people have built in "slides" that short circuit the mind's critical examination process when it comes to certain sensitive topics. "Slides", Springmeier reports, is a CIA term for a conditioned type of response which dead ends a person's thinking and terminates debate or examination of the topic at hand. For example, the mention of the word "conspiracy" often solicits a slide response with many people. (Springmeier has co-authored three books on trauma-based programming which detail how the Illuminati employs highly tuned and extrememly sophisticated Mind Control (MC) training programs that begin the programming process while the intended victim is still within the womb. Mind Control is a much greater problem than most people realize. According to Cisco Wheeler, a former Illuminati mind control programmer, there are 10 million people who have been programmed as mind controlled slaves using trauma-based MC programs with names like Monarch and MK Ultra. The newer, non-trauma, electronic means of MC programming that grew out of the Montauk Project, may include millions more. Al Bielek, who played a principle role in the development of the Montauk Project, said that there likely 10 million victims of Montauk style mind control programming worldwide, the majority located in the USA. He also said that there are covert Montauk Programming 'Centers' in every major city in the U.S. )

What most Americans believe to be "Public Opinion" is in reality carefully crafted and scripted propaganda designed to elicit a desired behavioral response from the public. Public opinion polls are really taken with the intent of gauging the public's acceptance of the Illuminati's planned programs. A strong showing in the polls tells the Illuminati that the programing is "taking", while a poor showing tells the NWO manipulators that they have to recast or "tweak" the programming until the desired response is achieved. While the thrust and content of the propaganda is decided at Tavistock, implementation of the propaganda is executed in the United States by well over 200 'think tanks' such as the Rand Corporation and the Brookings Institute which are overseen and directed by the top NWO mind control organization in the United States, the Stanford Research Institute (SRI) in Menlo Park, California.

The NWO global conspirators manifest their agenda through the skillful manipulation of human emotions, especially fear. In the past centuries, they have repeatedly utilized a contrivance that NWO researcher and author David Icke has characterized in his latest book, The Biggest Secret, as Problem, Reaction, and Solution.






http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/

Thanks for the book recommendation. I happen to work for the public library so it will not be a problem obtaining a copy.

In turn I would recommend the following:

The Corporation (sample)

And

Iraq for Sale: The War Profiteers (sample)

When you put the two together it is very disturbing.

 

[BlackLantern]

I've done the reading, hell I even did a term paper on the "new world order" and the culture of conpiracy theorists....I do not doubt that there are people in charge that we are not aware of the existence of....