What does it mean to be black?

[raybia]

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[BlackLantern]

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[raybia]

I've done the reading, hell I even did a term paper on the "new world order" and the culture of conpiracy theorists....I do not doubt that there are people in charge that we are not aware of the existence of....

That is also my sentiments.

I will not say I believe all of this information on "New World orders" and Global conspiracies verbatim but I do believe there exist those who are conspirators against the human race.

 

[raybia]

Thanks for the book recommendation. I happen to work for the public library so it will not be a problem obtaining a copy.

In turn I would recommend the following:

The Corporation (sample)

And

Iraq for Sale: The War Profiteers (sample)

When you put the two together it is very disturbing.

Thanks. I'll read them.

I mean watch them.

 

[BlackLantern]

That is also my sentiments.

I will not say I believe all of this information on "New World orders" and Global conspiracies verbatim but I do believe there exist those who are conspirators against the human race.

When you say against the human race....do you mean to undermine democracy or what? I follow, but not entirely

 

[raybia]

When you say against the human race....do you mean to undermine democracy or what? I follow, but not entirely

Yes, to undermine democracy and Human rights.

 

[ANTOINE X]

What does it mean to be Black enough?

What does it mean to be black or African American?

For myself claiming to be African American just means I acknowledge and claim the origins of my African ancestors over other parts of my genetic background and heritage and also that I'm an American in the sense of me not only being born and raised here but that my ancestors played an important part of the foundation and construction of this country.

With that said I think it’s even more important to live up to our potential as a human being and live down to the stereotypical traits that we as a people have been assigned by others throughout the centuries.

We can have our own culture but I think it should be clean and decent.

We can have our own food but I think it should be fit for optimum human health.

We can and should have our own mind, a free mind that demonstrates our intelligence and ability for moral and rational thought; a grown-up adult mind that no longer requires us to be told what to do or how to think or not to think period. A mind that adds to the American think tank that assists in the progression of American society and in all areas of development from social, economic, political to education and health care for all people. In another word; Leadership. First and foremost to our black children and then to each other and the rest of the public.

We should be a people that in spite of our humble and degrading origins as the children of slaves demonstrate the strength of the human spirit by picking ourselves up and finding solutions to the entire social and economic issues that plague our community OURSELVES. Do for self and show that we are not victims nor do we have a victim mentality that results in waiting for a never arriving Savior to save us.

Its not an issue of being black enough, its an issue of us being man and woman enough to demonstrate that we no longer on the bottom of the global totem pole but we are equal to every other group of people on this planet in EVERY sense of the word.

I know this is a very idealistic commentary but ideas are the substance that reality is made of and ideas start in our mind.

Once we as African Americans change our mentality then we can and will achieve all of the things mentioned and more.

Raybia

Some time I am saying to my self why am I so shy about my ancestor past? Slavery and racism is not about color its a human condition. If they were only black or only white or only yellow or what ever the color racism and slavery would still exist. There will be always someone saying that your not light skin enough or dark skin enough to be part of what ever groups but the real reason behind that is EGO. Human want to have everything to him self what ever the color.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

It's funny how we all came from the same place, yet have so many different languages, races, cultures, etc.

I always thought you lived in Brazil.

Humanity is a race that can change it's appearence to suit it's enviroment.Like an animal,over time..we change.It's ironic,when our ancestors first left Africa..they were black,or what we would call black in our present day.But when the left,they were just people...or hominids.

As for me,i mentioned only once on SHH where i am from.

It's 2007 people, and racism is on the way out.

Raybia, I commend you for your comments, but I'm also going to say a few things you may find to be offensive, even if they are true.

First, let's not forget that it was the idealism and compassion you speak of that prompted WHITE people to free the slaves.

Second, despite how terrible slavery was, it resulted in the pollination of America with African immigrants. Were it not for slavery, this would be a much more WHITE country, and a much worse country because of it.

Finally, I could give a crap less what color anyone's skin is. I think most Americans feel that way. While African Americans should feel just as empowered as any other race to pick themselves up and succeed, it should not be at the expense of others under any circumstance. Maybe if more African Americans would listen more carefully to the wisdom of Bill Cosby, things might improve.

There is only one race - the human race. All sub-categories describing the human race are shallow attempts at either a) seeking attention or b) seeking superiority. In either case, it's shameful and should be dutifully ignored and/or punished.

It was said before that blacks often use the past as a excuse for their present situation.Black women are marrying white men,because black men don't do anything for themselfs.

Ironically,if anything i think racism is returning to where it was before 1960.

If white people had not given slaves their freedom,i think they would have been sent back to Africa.The rise of machines would have ment no more need for slaves.America would mostly be a white and asian country then.

There are more white people posting in here than there are black...I'm confused with the thread title now.

Ironic isn't it?But it's a very interesting topic.I only think raybia,terry and BlackLantern are black.

 

[Denny67]

Thanks. I'll read them.

I mean watch them.

The Corporation was a book and predated the documentary if you are more attracted to print, I enjoyed both. I am not sure on the Iraq one. I have only seen the film.

 

[Warhammer]

There are more white people posting in here than there are black...I'm confused with the thread title now.

You'd be surprised how many posters around the Hype are black, but don't throw it out there. Many people don't even know that I am a Black/Asian guy.

Humanity is a race that can change it's appearence to suit it's enviroment.Like an animal,over time..we change.It's ironic,when our ancestors first left Africa..they were black,or what we would call black in our present day.But when the left,they were just people...or hominids.

As for me,i mentioned only once on SHH where i am from.

Technically, I guess we wouldn't know for sure what skin color the first people were, but yep, those people were just people. It's a shame how we are all still divided by race. No matter what anybody claims, they will still always see a person's race, not that we are all humans.

Ironic isn't it?But it's a very interesting topic.I only think raybia,terry and BlackLantern are black.

A good majority of the posters in this thread are Black.

 

[T'Jai]

Humanity is a race that can change it's appearence to suit it's enviroment.Like an animal,over time..we change.It's ironic,when our ancestors first left Africa..they were black,or what we would call black in our present day.But when the left,they were just people...or hominids.

Race? u mean species. So what's the difference between blacks and people?

As for me,i mentioned only once on SHH where i am from.

It was said before that blacks often use the past as a excuse for their present situation.Black women are marrying white men,because black men don't do anything for themselfs.

Source?

Ironically,if anything i think racism is returning to where it was before 1960.

I agree with the sentiment that there is an upward trend (in America anyway) but it's nowhere near the level it was in the 60's

If white people had not given slaves their freedom,i think they would have been sent back to Africa.The rise of machines would have ment no more need for slaves.America would mostly be a white and asian country then.

And how exactly would they have accomplished that in the 1800's, what would have been the methodology? I'm curious as to "your take" on that...

Ironic isn't it?But it's a very interesting topic.I only think raybia,terry and BlackLantern are black.

I'm black

 

[BlackLantern]

Racism has its pockets of power, but I really do not think its on the rise. Being a black man, I have a decent job, live in a decent apartment, live a normal life but amm saddened by the lack of the willingness of the black community to take ownership

 

[chamber-music]

When you say against the human race....do you mean to undermine democracy or what? I follow, but not entirely

Its not really old world high society that I feel holds the power but the wealthy corporations with its executives that use its poer and influence to bend democracies to thier will. I strongly question for example Rupert Murdochs news corps influnce on the goverments in America and Britain.

It was said before that blacks often use the past as a excuse for their present situation.Black women are marrying white men,because black men don't do anything for themselfs.

Ironically,if anything i think racism is returning to where it was before 1960.

If white people had not given slaves their freedom,i think they would have been sent back to Africa.The rise of machines would have ment no more need for slaves.America would mostly be a white and asian country then.


Ironic isn't it?But it's a very interesting topic.I only think raybia,terry and BlackLantern are black.

I'm black and I can honestly say I've never used my race or slavery as an excuse for anything. I'm not generally very pessimistic. I believe almost any thing is in our power with enough hard work, knowledge, ingenuity and resourcefulness.

I don't think racism against blacks is on the rise or atleat it doesn't feel like it is. Most white people the country I live in would oppose racist views as strongly as the black and other communities would.

Also If whites had not of freed the slaves which they would of eventually as most societies evolved past the stage where slavery is acceptable.
They probabley still would not of shipped them back to africa. As their where those who enjoyed having the power over other human beings and the feeling of superiority they got from that.

Racism has its pockets of power, but I really do not think its on the rise. Being a black man, I have a decent job, live in a decent apartment, live a normal life but amm saddened by the lack of the willingness of the black community to take ownership

 

[T'Jai]

Used to work for a nightclub that has a few consultants that come through to brief us on current issues that concern the night life industry, they also consult for the government and they said that hate group membership is swelling and diversifying. Remember we are in a time where the divide between economic classes is widening. Many youths are coming out of collage unable to find work in their chosen fields, as a result they become disenfranchised and become susceptible to the preachings of said groups (like in Higher Learning) not to mention the current popular and celebrated perception of black culture lends itself to allowing many to form negative views of blacks in general.

 

[deemar325]

I think it means being born with a natural 'Coolness'

 

[Dorian Gray]

I hope I'm White enough.

Watch more episodes of "Friends" and you'll be fine.

 

[terry78]

Watch more episodes of "Friends" and you'll be fine.

Also, Will and Grace for the females and gays.

 

[Cartman Blues]

Eh I think to be black : You either have a really cool deep voice, or really wierd Chris Tucker voice. Also you can call white's "crackas" without trouble. For some odd reason, you can say n***** without anyone saying anything about it...It also means you SHOULD get the same rights as any other race, although many times this isn't true, whether it be blacks getting more rights,or less rights. You can play bass. (Says Cartman...The cartoon one )

 

[kainedamo]

Hey guys,

What does it mean to you for Barack Obama to be running for President? And not just that but the fact that he has an excellent chance. Do you feel in a way proud? Do you feel glad that things have come far enough that a black man can go for President? Do you maybe feel disheartened at some bigoted reactions (people saying he is Muslim and so forth) and possible death threats against him?

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I'm def afraid of the death threats that will inevitably be sent if he gets elected

 

[kainedamo]

I think he'll be alright.

 

[LazloSpeeker]

Just out of curiosity, how many people have been banned as a result of comments made in this thread?

 

[ANTOINE X]

Hey guys,

What does it mean to you for Barack Obama to be running for President? And not just that but the fact that he has an excellent chance. Do you feel in a way proud? Do you feel glad that things have come far enough that a black man can go for President? Do you maybe feel disheartened at some bigoted reactions (people saying he is Muslim and so forth) and possible death threats against him?

There's other forums where you can discuss about black in the society, I just don't think this forum is appropriate for this kind of thing so I m gonna skip this part.

As for Obama What ever happens I think it s a big steps For the Americans and the world. I Think it means that the people here want some changes are willing to try something new.

People on the Obama thread are doing some unfounded predictions .Nobody knows how Obama will do as president. Life is full of suprise so we'll see! And I wich him the best!

 

[jaguarr]

I'm def afraid of the death threats that will inevitably be sent if he gets elected

That's inevitable, but the Secret Service do NOT want another Robert Kennedy situation on their hands or their record. I have to believe they'll be taking every step imaginable (and some that no one would have ever though of) to protect him and follow up on any and all threats to make sure they're not leaving any stones unturned.

jag