World What film had the best first villian fight?

[Andrew Lucas]

I wasn't talking about Webb's Spider-Man and the encounter was barely a fight. Sorry.

 

[Spider2099]

I know you weren't talking about the Webb movies. I was making a comparison.

 

[The Joker]

But the bank is where the fight started. Unlike the Webb movies, the fights aren't always stationary. They move from location to location: the fight starts at the bank, then outdoors, and then moves to the side of a building.

And how glorious that is. It really makes them feel like one big epic battle that spills all over the place. Like how the Goblin fight went from the bridge to the abandoned building. Or the airborne Harry fight went all over NY.

 

[Spider2099]

And how glorious that is. It really makes them feel like one big epic battle that spills all over the place. Like how the Goblin fight went from the bridge to the abandoned building. Or the airborne Harry fight went all over NY.

And Spider-Man and Doc Ock battled on the top of the clock tower and THEN a moving train. Sam Raimi really was a creative genius wasn't he? Really wish he could come back someday.

 

[Andrew Lucas]

I know you weren't talking about the Webb movies. I was making a comparison.

Fair enough.

BTW, my vote is for SM3 and not ASM2. Voted wrong.

 

[OcStat]

The fights with Dr. Octopus are the gold standard for superhero action movies. I mean, only the Avengers comes close and they have 6 extra heroes to show off.

 

[The Joker]

^ That's why I've always said Spider-Man 2 set the standard for action in CBMs.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

^ That's why I've always said Spider-Man 2 set the standard for action in CBMs.

It did. Nothing before compares to it and only the rare film since.

 

[spiderman2]

The fights with Dr. Octopus are the gold standard for superhero action movies. I mean, only the Avengers comes close and they have 6 extra heroes to show off.

All the sm movies have really good action but yeah sm2 action is at just a whole another level that is one of the reason that sm2 is still one of the best CBM ever and easiy the best sm movie.

 

[The Joker]

It did. Nothing before compares to it and only the rare film since.

Exactly. Raimi really raised the bar through the roof with one movie. It's like he took lessons with James Cameron or something before he made it.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

I voted for the Bank fight. It was an easy decision. That entire scuffle from start to finish was epic. There's no other way to describe it and the added few moments that we see in the 2.1 version, only increase that epicness. I'm not using that version as part of the rating process however, only making a note of it.

I remember watching that fight scene for the first time in the theater and thinking, wow. It was fast paced, lots of tension, great use of space and both Ock's and Spidey's unique abilities. It captured everything perfectly. I didn't think they could possibly top that scene--until of course about an hour later and I saw the train fight. Kudos to Raimi and his crew.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

I voted for the Bank fight. It was an easy decision. That entire scuffle from start to finish was epic. There's no other way to describe it and the added few moments that we see in the 2.1 version, only increase that epicness. I'm not using that version as part of the rating process however, only making a note of it.

I remember watching that fight scene for the first time in the theater and thinking, wow. It was fast paced, lots of tension, great use of space and both Ock's and Spidey's unique abilities. It captured everything perfectly. I didn't think they could possibly top that scene--until of course about an hour later and I saw the train fight. Kudos to Raimi and his crew.

Agreed.

I wish we had some gifs of bank fight. My favorite part when Ock smash through the bank window and hit the taxi cab in the street.

 

[Doc Ock]

I have such a vivid memory of the first confrontation between Green Goblin, it was such a good scene. But the Doc Ock fight lasted much longer and had alot of excellent comic booky moments that caused me to love it more. From Ock throwing moneybags to Aunt May's "shame on you!" it's great.

 

[The Joker]

Ock climbing up the side of the building on his tentacles, it was like it was ripped straight off a comic book page. Then Spidey landing in front of him. It was eye candy magnificence.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

It is great. I just feel that the all-out aerial battle to open SM3 just edges it out, especially with two films of emotional build up to that moment where Peter and Harry finally square off.

Unfortunately SM3 peaks there, whereas the Ock fight in SM2 was followed up by an even better one later (which is still probably the greatest fight of any superhero movie ever).

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Agreed.

I wish we had some gifs of bank fight. My favorite part when Ock smash through the bank window and hit the taxi cab in the street.

Then throwing the cab doors through the bank window at Spidey. There wasn't one part of that fight scene that would be a throwaway. It flowed so well and the creativity in the scene was evident.

And actually my favorite part of the scene is in the 2.1 version. It's when Spidey and Ock crash through the window and land on the floor. Spidey is wailing on him but then Ock's tentacles grab Spidey and start throwing him around the room then out the window but not before Spidey gets his webs on Ock and pulls him out the window too. I really wish that was in the original cut.

No matter though. The original is chock full of so much goodness.

Ock climbing up the side of the building on his tentacles, it was like it was ripped straight off a comic book page. Then Spidey landing in front of him. It was eye candy magnificence.

"Hand her over!"
"Ooops! Butter fingers."

Like I said above, it captured everything perfectly. Dialogue and all. There was so much creativity that went into that entire scene.

It is great. I just feel that the all-out aerial battle to open SM3 just edges it out, especially with two films of emotional build up to that moment where Peter and Harry finally square off.

Unfortunately SM3 peaks there, whereas the Ock fight in SM2 was followed up by an even better one later (which is still probably the greatest fight of any superhero movie ever).

I agree. Nothing has yet to beat the train scene. IMO, it still stands as the best action sequence in any CBM and probably makes it pretty high on the action scene list for movies in general.