What....If any....Classic Bond elements would you like to see in Bond 23 ?

[Hunter Rider]

After Quantum of Solace a number of Bond fans seem to feel that the franchise has lost it's "Bondness", So in the 23rd installment what would you like to see make a return ?

 

[Fenrir]

I haven't seen Quantum of Solace yet, but the options on that poll are not what makes Bond "Bond" to me. In fact, I think Bond would be better off without them. That doesn't mean I don't want to see Bond burning rubber in some super cool ride, jesus no. But generally "tricked out" cars in Bond films have had some really ridiculous gadgets. The one in Casino Royale was acceptable - it had some subtle, nifty extras but nothing too outrageous. That's what they should be like.

 

[TLH]

I'd actually like to see a few things that you didn't put on the poll -- "Bond, James Bond", the gun barrell sequence, and "Shaken, not stirred" (because Craig would deliver that line perfectly).

The rest I don't care about.

 

[Brian Braddock]

I'd actually like to see a few things that you didn't put on the poll -- "Bond, James Bond", the gun barrell sequence, and "Shaken, not stirred" (because Craig would deliver that line perfectly).

The rest I don't care about.

Yas - have you actually seen QOS?

 

[MiniBond]

bring Moneypenny back for the bit of humor but Q is dispensable except if they introduce a simple armorer with very simple gadgets like in dr No

 

[Brian Braddock]

Exactly - some people get far too hung up about the gadgets; he only had a geiger counter in Dr.No for Pete's sake - I wonder if these people watch that and think 'that's not who James Bond is.....'

 

[TLH]

Yas - have you actually seen QOS?

Yes, and don't tell me that the fact that the sequence appears at the very end counts. It's not supposed to appear at the end. It doesn't have to appear at the very beginning either; it could have been used in the way that Casino Royale brilliantly implemented it.

It served no purpose at the end other than to say "Oh, yeah! We forgot the gun barrell sequence...Well, here it is!" [/tacked on]

 

[Brian Braddock]

Wow, some attitude.

Thing is - you didnt embelish on anything more than that you would like to see the gunbarrel in Bond 23; leading me to ask if you'd actually seen 22 for obvious reasons seeing as this is a thread talking about certain missing Bond staples that you'd like to see return.

If you'd have been more clear in your initial post - I wouldnt have had to ask.

 

[TLH]

Wow, some attitude.

Thing is - you didnt embelish on anything more than that you would like to see the gunbarrel in Bond 23; leading me to ask if you'd actually seen 22 for obvious reasons seeing as this is a thread talking about certain missing Bond staples that you'd like to see return.

If you'd have been more clear in your initial post - I wouldnt have had to ask.

You have way too much time on your hands. But, because you clearly need a detailed, specific exposition: I would like to see the gun barrell sequence return to its rightful place near or at the beginning of the film for Bond 23. Is that clear enough for you?

 

[Brian Braddock]

Quite.

You coulda saved us all a bit of time and posted that in the 1st place though.

 

[TLH]

Quite.

You coulda saved us all a bit of time and posted that in the 1st place though.

Or you could have just made the very obvious assumption that I was disappointed with its lazy implementation into QoS, especially given the thread.

Thankfully, most forum posters don't need such a demanding level of clarification, or else we'd all go crazy trying to specify the innate implications of our statements.

 

[The Sage]

"Bond, James Bond"

Gadgets.

Moneypenny, can leave or take.

Q.

Don't need the tricked out car. Just get another Aston Martin and I'll be happy.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Yas, I make no assumptions - Let's be clear here - your post didnt make it clear what you actually meant.

I asked you a question accordingly and you've acted like a d*** since.

Woe betide that a poster actually clearly posts what they mean without another having to resort to telepathy.

The simple fact is that there are people who havent seen the movie yet and dont know about the gunbarrel.

 

[Warhammer]

Honestly, when I was watching Quantum of Solace, I had no feeling that "classic" Bond elements were not there. James Bond was very much there. It was never the cars or gadgets that made the films. The character is what was important to me. The gadgets was merely the icing on the cake. I will never say "it was not a Bond film because there were no gadgets" or any junk like that. I never got the people that said the movie was more like Bourne than Bond. James Bond is very much there, and just because the film did not follow the traditional formula, it does not mean it still was not Bond. James Bond is unique because he is the only film character that continues to remain relevant and have various films since the '60s. He'll change again and again just like he has for the past 40 years.

Of course, the huge thing that I think some did not understand is that Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace were precursors to the universally known Bond. The films established why 007 is how he is.

...that's just me.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Honestly, when I was watching Quantum of Solace, I had no feeling that "classic" Bond elements were not there. James Bond was very much there. It was never the cars or gadgets that made the films. The character is what was important to me. The gadgets was merely the icing on the cake. I will never say "it was not a Bond film because there were no gadgets" or any junk like that. I never got the people that said the movie was more like Bourne than Bond. James Bond is very much there, and just because the film did not follow the traditional formula, it does not mean it still was not Bond. James Bond is unique because he is the only film character that continues to remain relevant and have various films since the '60s. He'll change again and again just like he has for the past 40 years.

Of course, the huge thing that I think some did not understand is that Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace were precursors to the universally known Bond. The films established why 007 is how he is.

...that's just me.

I co-sign every single bit of your post, Warhammer. You've encapsulated exactly how I feel at the moment.

Seriously dude; have you posted this on the QOS thread?

If not, then please do so. It would be a breath of fresh air on there at the moment.

 

[Matt]

All of them. Just not done to the extremity of Die Another Day. Something along the lines of what we got in Goldeneye.

 

[Nirvana]

"Vodka Martini. Shaken, not stirred."

"The name's Bond, James Bond."

The gun barrel sequence at the beginning of the movie.

 

[The_Vision]

Q, Moneypenny and Gadgets

 

[Furious Styles]

Wasn't it two years ago everyone was thankful all those "corny" Bond elements were no more?

People just don't know what they want

 

[The Guard]

Q and Moneypenny. With depth this time around.

 

[wobbly]

Q and some cool gadgets, but nothing ridiculous (no invisible cars with rocket launchers or high intensity laser wristwatches please...). Just a few neat things that are (relatively) realistic. The kind of things Connery's Bond had were mostly more down to earth (cept' the rocket pack and 'little nellie' of course)

Moneypenny would be nice to see back too, as would the return of Blofield - anyone else think they are setting 'Mr White' up as him? Seems the color names (white/Green) might the updated version of Spectre's old numbered system for thier operatives (assuming this organisation is the modern equivalent for Spectre)

Even without these things I think they've been doing a damn good job though.

 

[MiniBond]

Wasn't it two years ago everyone was thankful all those "corny" Bond elements were no more?

People just don't know what they want

the real problem is not to use those elements, the problem is using it too much and way over the top !

 

[November Rain]

a proper threatening villain rather than the ceo of evian...

 

[Eggyman]

a proper threatening villain rather than the ceo of evian...

This +

A few added extras on the car.

More espionage.

Slower edit.

 

[The Guard]

I don't know anyone who thought the tricked out car wasn't cool. And I should point out that all those "Gadgets that look like things" are based on real disguised spy gadgets, so...they're not THAT farfetched.