What Kinda Wrestling Thread You Runnin' Here? - Part 193

[sweetre15]

 

[Slushy]

 

[bullets]

But they can't keep on doing stuff like this, only to retract. Shouldn't they be smarter than this?

I would of never thought we'd see something like this again. Especially two years in a row. Hell this is actually worse than last year. The WWE have no excuse for dropping the ball like this. It was Reigns rumble to win, but the what if scenarios involving Ziggler , Ambrose, and Daniel Bryan should of made this one of the most exciting rumbles in recent memory.

 

[sweetre15]

Hey guys check out this "music video" for Vince McMahon:

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My primary reaction is....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Seriously it speaks the truth and it's way too funny.

 

[vantheman77]

The northeast blizzard may be complicated for TNA who are heading to the UK this week. They may have to change routes.

 

[The Apocalypse]

I finally got a chance to watch the rumble match, being able to hear the crowd. Damn. I didnt think it got that bad. Honestly, I kind of think this was Vince McMahon's way of saying F You to the fans. I think he was pissed about how plans were changed last year and a man like him, who always gets his way, gets the last laugh. Just the way Kane and Show were throwing ppl over the top. Just kind of seemed like a big middle finger to the fans. It goes beyond DB not winning too. They didn't even make him a final 4. Maybe he's hurt still, who knows. The the way they just tossed out Ambrose, Wyatt and Ziggy was just disrespectful.

 

[Hotwire]

Wrestling fans are so fickle. If the booking isn't exactly how you want it, you're ready to bail on it.

Someone earlier said there could be legit reasons for them not having Bryan win the Rumble. For example, he's not fully ready for that kind of program. The point is, we don't know the reason and all we can do is speculate. Would I have preferred to see Bryan win it, Hell yes I would have. Am I going to cry and go home over it, no. Seriously, If I did that every time the wrestler I was pulling for lost, I'd have stopped watching decades ago.

Also, even before Bryan left with his injury, there were plenty of rumors running around that Reigns was going to win the Rumble. This is something that's been in the works for a long time. Besides, if last year taught us anything, we really should never count Bryan out. Or, have you all forgotten how they ended up handling Batista winning the Rumble when everyone was begging for Bryan to win it?

 

[vantheman77]

Last year was WWE being clueless. This year they are telling the fans to screw themselves.

It's been a year since CM Punk left WWE and pro wrestling. This year saw Justin Gabriel no longer in WWE.

 

[sweetre15]

Wrestling fans are so fickle. If the booking isn't exactly how you want it, you're ready to bail on it.

Someone earlier said there could be legit reasons for them not having Bryan win the Rumble. For example, he's not fully ready for that kind of program. The point is, we don't know the reason and all we can do is speculate. Would I have preferred to see Bryan win it, Hell yes I would have. Am I going to cry and go home over it, no. Seriously, If I did that every time the wrestler I was pulling for lost, I'd have stopped watching decades ago.

Also, even before Bryan left with his injury, there were plenty of rumors running around that Reigns was going to win the Rumble. This is something that's been in the works for a long time. Besides, if last year taught us anything, we really should never count Bryan out. Or, have you all forgotten how they ended up handling Batista winning the Rumble when everyone was begging for Bryan to win it?

Fans like to be excited for the PPVs they watch.....When you deliver a lackluster product constantly and in one of the times where they are genuinely excited, the company outright slaps them in the face...how in the hell do you expect them to react?

We know Reigns's push has been "in the works" for months and that's the problem here. He clearly is not ready for it and neither are the fans yet they stuck with it solely because he's their handpicked guy....If it would have been anyone else having to fight for traction in a big push but wasn't their preferred guy, they would have called an audible long time ago.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Steph looks nice though.

Pics?

Wrestling fans are so fickle. If the booking isn't exactly how you want it, you're ready to bail on it.

Someone earlier said there could be legit reasons for them not having Bryan win the Rumble. For example, he's not fully ready for that kind of program. The point is, we don't know the reason and all we can do is speculate. Would I have preferred to see Bryan win it, Hell yes I would have. Am I going to cry and go home over it, no. Seriously, If I did that every time the wrestler I was pulling for lost, I'd have stopped watching decades ago.

Also, even before Bryan left with his injury, there were plenty of rumors running around that Reigns was going to win the Rumble. This is something that's been in the works for a long time. Besides, if last year taught us anything, we really should never count Bryan out. Or, have you all forgotten how they ended up handling Batista winning the Rumble when everyone was begging for Bryan to win it?

Really? I stopped watching 7 months ago because the show is garbage, I've watched 3 Raw's this year and wont be watching any more. Fans are sick and tired of being ignored and basically told their opinion doesn't matter.

Who cares if the Reigns thing was in the works? It was clear to even the markiest marks that he's not over, can barely cut a promo and has never had a decent singles match without Bryan or Punk to carry him. WWE had multiple other options than Bryan if he is still hurt, and frankly I don't buy that at all given how physical his matches with Bray and Kane were last week, not to mention that in every interview Bryan has had since he came back he has said he wants to face Brock at Mania.

So no, it's not fickle, the fact we have given them chance after chance and they continue to spit in fans faces makes it more like battered wives syndrome than anything else. Thankfully there are wives that finally have enough and get out, WWE are losing viewers as it is and this may be the straw that breaks the camels back. No one wants another redo of last years BS where fans had to practically riot to get the right guy in the main event, it wasn't fun, it was tiresome and annoying and stupid that the biggest angle of the year was Vince's arrogance vs WWE's fanbase.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Does anyone really think Reigns is ready? Like really? In the ring or out of it? The guy isn't mediocre in the ring and worse on the mic. The least of the trio they broke up to push him. Was debating renewing my subscription today to see the Rumble, but I decided against it because I knew Bryan wasn't going to win. It was a good decision.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Pics?



Really? I stopped watching 7 months ago because the show is garbage, I've watched 3 Raw's this year and wont be watching any more. Fans are sick and tired of being ignored and basically told their opinion doesn't matter.

Who cares if the Reigns thing was in the works? It was clear to even the markiest marks that he's not over, can barely cut a promo and has never had a decent singles match without Bryan or Punk to carry him. WWE had multiple other options than Bryan if he is still hurt, and frankly I don't buy that at all given how physical his matches with Bray and Kane were last week, not to mention that in every interview Bryan has had since he came back he has said he wants to face Brock at Mania.

So no, it's not fickle, the fact we have given them chance after chance and they continue to spit in fans faces makes it more like battered wives syndrome than anything else. Thankfully there are wives that finally have enough and get out, WWE are losing viewers as it is and this may be the straw that breaks the camels back. No one wants another redo of last years BS where fans had to practically riot to get the right guy in the main event, it wasn't fun, it was tiresome and annoying and stupid that the biggest angle of the year was Vince's arrogance vs WWE's fanbase.

We had a chance for an all time match with Bryan and Brock, in what could be Brock's final match, potentially ever. Good thing we are going to waste that on either Reigns or stupid multi-man match.

It also kills me that the WWE feels compelled to tell everyone who the man is. It is like WM isn't suppose to be this celebration of pro wrestling, where the fans get to enjoy themselves.

 

[sweetre15]

Damn even TIME is covering the "CancelWWENetwork" issue:

http://time.com/3682093/cancel-wwe-...eed:+time/entertainment+(TIME:+Entertainment)

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I still can't believe people thought Reigns winning was ever a good idea. What has he done in the last year to show he is ready? He was a part of a popular stable where he carried by two far superior talents, and while I like him, he wouldn't be in my top 10 ideas for WM now or even next year.

This also proves how truly over Bryan, Ziggler and Ambrose are. Especially Bryan.

Wouldn't it be great if Bryan walked? CM Punk recently named Bryan as someone who could make it in the UFC. It's not too late Bryan. Both Punk and Bryan walking would be a severe blowto the WWE.

No it wouldn't be great. Because I want to watch Bryan Danielson wrestle.

 

[Herolee10]

Well, at least the WWE now knows how to truly make a superstar into one of the most hated wrestlers in the business.lol

 

[DarthSkywalker]

One more thing on the macro level. People do realize that the fans were cheated out of their Bryan reign right? As the man, as the champion? If this was Austin, Rock or any other top face in the company it would a no brainer for them to win the Rumble upon their return. But not with Bryan.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Well, at least the WWE now knows how to truly make a superstar into one of the most hated wrestlers in the business.lol

Are you talking about Reigns? Was he ever really a superstar. He was basically the face while Bryan was gone, while Ziggler was being treated like poo. No one had a problem with him in his correct role at this time. Not even the Rock could save him.

 

[Herolee10]

Are you talking about Reigns? Was he ever really a superstar. He was basically the face while Bryan was gone, while Ziggler was being treated like poo. No one had a problem with him in his correct role at this time. Not even the Rock could save him.

lol; well I'm just using the term that Vince likes to call his so called "wrestlers".

I do feel bad for Reigns though. The guy could have truly had a great "Road to Wrestlemania" arc for next year if he had used all of this year to win over the fans....e.g. winning mid-card title, being placed in great feuds, having an manager to do his talking, improve on the mic, etc.

But they really jumped the bandwagon on this one.

 

[Wheels]

Are you talking about Reigns? Was he ever really a superstar. He was basically the face while Bryan was gone, while Ziggler was being treated like poo. No one had a problem with him in his correct role at this time. Not even the Rock could save him.

Ambrose was the top face while Bryan was out.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Ambrose was the top face while Bryan was out.

You are completely correct Wheels. My mistake.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

lol; well I'm just using the term that Vince likes to call his so called "wrestlers".

I do feel bad for Reigns though. The guy could have truly had a great "Road to Wrestlemania" arc for next year if he had used all of this year to win over the fans....e.g. winning mid-card title, being placed in great feuds, having an manager to do his talking, improve on the mic, etc.

But they really jumped the bandwagon on this one.

Why though? Reigns is ok, but he is far from ready. If anything he regressed over the last 6 months. I get that he has "the look", but right now that is really all he has. Cena was far better and far more ready during his ascension, and look how that turned out.

 

[Herolee10]

Theoretically speaking, I think there's one way to potentially salvage this situation (I mean anything would be better at this point)....

Now assuming if some big Miracle happened where Vince decided that he needs to change things big time, there would be one way to possibly change things.

The Authority could come out with some B.S. excuse and say that Roman's RR is not valid because of the Rock having interfered (even though the RR match is technically No DQ) and actually use the kayfabe reason of the company's stock's going down as a result of Reigns's victory to convince the so called "Board" to overturn Reign's victory.

A new tournament would then be set up to establish a new challenger to the WWE Belt, where the new winner would end up being someone that the WWE audience would approve of (Bryan, Ziggler, Ambrose, etc)

What do you guys think?

 

[RetroNaz]

Cena's progression felt a little more natural as his thug life gimmick was what won him over with the audience, followed by a decent build to the top.

Reigns has been around for a cup of coffee and has won the rumble. He hasn't earned anything (in my eyes). Which is not his fault.

 

[RetroNaz]

Theoretically speaking, I think there's one way to potentially salvage this situation (I mean anything would be better at this point)....

Now assuming if some big Miracle happened where Vince decided that he needs to change things big time, there would be one way to possibly change things.

The Authority could come out with some B.S. excuse and say that Roman's RR is not valid because of the Rock having interfered (even though the RR match is technically No DQ) and actually use the kayfabe reason of the company's stock's going down as a result of Reigns's victory to convince the so called "Board" to overturn Reign's victory.

A new tournament would then be set up to establish a new challenger to the WWE Belt, where the new winner would end up being someone that the WWE audience would approve of (Bryan, Ziggler, Ambrose, etc)

What do you guys think?

Honestly, at this point I don't even care. It's like telling a bully to be nice, yet they beat the snot out of you anyway. Again and again. Over and over. No matter how many times you tell them to stop.

Vince really needs to pull the stick out of his ass and wake up to the fact that he's killing his company.

 

[Herolee10]

Honestly, at this point I don't even care. It's like telling a bully to be nice, yet they beat the snot out of you anyway. Again and again. Over and over. No matter how many times you tell them to stop.

Vince really needs to pull the stick out of his ass and wake up to the fact that he's killing his company.

lol; Vince is more likely to kill his own company than admitting that he was wrong and do what's really best for the business.