What should be done with the heroes that had Netflix shows when Disney gets the rights back?

[The Overlord]

What should be done with the heroes that had Netflix shows (Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Punisher, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist) when Disney gets the rights back to these characters? Disney has already has gotten the rights back to Daredevil, Iron Fist, and Luke Cage and will get the rights back to Jessica Jones and Punisher soon.

 

[Detective Conan]

You should ask Kevin Feige that - oh wait, he’s impossible to reach.

I’ll answer. Let me just say that I’m more than certain that if Netflix had never gotten the rights to do the Marvel shows that it’d be Daredevil, not Moon Night, that would be getting a Disney Plus show. It’s an obvious observation to make, but I suspect MCU proper Daredevil would more closer to Mark Waid’s more light-hearted, optimistic approach than the grim ‘n gritty Frank Miller tone that the Netflix show went with.

I actually think Marvel would be wise to go in that direction if they choose to do another show with DD with or without Charlie Cox. Just for the sake of differentiation from that Netflix version. It doesn’t even have to be a hard reboot but rather something that feels different in tone and style. You’re not going to get R-rated violence on a Disney Plus MCU show that’s more family friendly and Marvel generally likes to put their own stamp on things to distinguish their version from a previous version they didn’t have much involvement in. They’ve already done this with their version of Spider-Man, and they will continue to do this with their versions of Fantastic Four and X-Men(and to a much lesser extent Deadpool).

As for the matter of Luke Cage and Iron Fist: I don’t think they need any more shows since I personally think Cage and Iron Fist are better suited to just playing supporting roles in Marvel films and shows from now on. Though I prefer the two roles recast. As for Jessica Jones and Punisher; I also don’t need them to have a shows and prefer them to play supporting roles in MCU shows and movies going forward, but I do think Bernthal and Ritter should come back though I think I could see both of those actors in other MCU roles.

Marvel has shown with Mahersalia Ali that they don’t care about casting an actor who was one character on the netflix shows as a different character in their universe. With Bernthal in particular, I could see him as either Ben Grimm or Wolverine(though I prefer a shorter actor for the role). Ritter could be just about anybody and I’m game. So in short, I’d advocate a soft reboot on most of these characters with some recasts if need be.

 

[NotNickFury]

They'll eventually be rebooted and recast. I wouldn't be surprised to see them pop up in someone else's movie first before they get their own film, assuming Feige and Marvel Studios will do anything with them anytime soon when they don't have to. Could just let them sit to give audiences time to prepare for a new take on those characters.

 

[Airwings]

I would love for Daredevil to be in the MCU films.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I say just keep them. We don't need shows for all of them, and they can mostly more or less be supporting roles in the MCU. But I see no good reason not to bring them back.

 

[BobJM]

Is Charlie Cox & co. able to return? Is that what the recent news is, or can Marvel just develop something with the characters?

I’d carry forward with a Daredevil series, but treat it like The Mandalorian. He’s got a new friend to team up with each week: Elektra, the Heroes for Hire, Jessica Jones, Moon Knight, etc. It should be a very loose sequel to the Netflix series—Kingpin is away in prison & there’s a power vacuum (this presenting the opportunity for a new villain, Mr. Fear perhaps?).

It’d be lighter in script, but could still have the dramatic tone of The Mandalorian. Then you have all these characters to shuffle around in other shows, movies, spin-offs, whatever. Keep Cox, Ritter, D’Onofrio, & Yung, as well as the actors for Foggy Nelson & Karen Page.

Recast Luke Cage (Trevante Rhodes) & Danny Rand (Joe Alwyn).

Idk how to handle Punisher; let’s see what they do with Deadpool. Keep Bernthal though.

 

[Punisher_MAX]

Depending on what they want for Matt and Frank, if they recast for bigger names and roles in the MCU, I'd get Anthony Starr as Matt Murdock and Henry Cavill as Frank Castle.

 

[Airwings]

Is Charlie Cox & co. able to return?

I hope so. Would be a waste to throw away such a perfect actor for the part.

Idk how to handle Punisher; let’s see what they do with Deadpool. Keep Bernthal though

Bernthal is a strong actor and should stay.
If not him, I would like Thomas Jane to return (even if that's is HIGHLY unlikely).

Depending on what they want for Matt and Frank, if they recast for bigger names and roles in the MCU, I'd get Anthony Starr as Matt Murdock and Henry Cavill as Frank Castle.

Is Anthony Starr a bigger name than Charlie Cox?

I doubt Cavill will go from Superrman in DCU to Punisher in MCU. Very much "not gonna happen"!

 

[Punisher_MAX]

I hope so. Would be a waste to throw away such a perfect actor for the part.


Bernthal is a strong actor and should stay.
If not him, I would like Thomas Jane to return (even if that's is HIGHLY unlikely).


Is Anthony Starr a bigger name than Charlie Cox?

I doubt Cavill will go from Superrman in DCU to Punisher in MCU. Very much "not gonna happen"!

Cavill seems to like brooding tough guys and The Boys has definitely put Starr on the map.

 

[NotNickFury]

You should ask Kevin Feige that - oh wait, he’s impossible to reach.

Marvel has shown with Mahersalia Ali that they don’t care about casting an actor who was one character on the netflix shows as a different character in their universe. With Bernthal in particular, I could see him as either Ben Grimm or Wolverine(though I prefer a shorter actor for the role). Ritter could be just about anybody and I’m game. So in short, I’d advocate a soft reboot on most of these characters with some recasts if need be.

All the more reason folks should just brace themselves for an inevitable recast of these characters. No amount of #SaveDaredevil hashtags would change that. What's interesting is that some, not all, when talking about these actors, rarely suggest bringing all of them back. It's primarily Cox, Bernthal, and D'Onofrio, but rarely the cast from the other shows and certainly not Finn Jones.

And I ask, if you want these actors back, you may as well go wholesale, right? Surely you'd think that Feige would be able to do more with Finn Jones in particular than Scott Buck could. At least on par with how Luke Cage handled him. I mean, if you're gonna argue that some of these actors should return because you like their performances, why not argue for all of them? The general audience who doesn't watch these Netflix shows won't care either way, but it baffles me how some want the Netflix actors to reprise their roles, but not all of them.

 

[OB12]

All the more reason folks should just brace themselves for an inevitable recast of these characters. No amount of #SaveDaredevil hashtags would change that. What's interesting is that some, not all, when talking about these actors, rarely suggest bringing all of them back. It's primarily Cox, Bernthal, and D'Onofrio, but rarely the cast from the other shows and certainly not Finn Jones.

And I ask, if you want these actors back, you may as well go wholesale, right? Surely you'd think that Feige would be able to do more with Finn Jones in particular than Scott Buck could. At least on par with how Luke Cage handled him. I mean, if you're gonna argue that some of these actors should return because you like their performances, why not argue for all of them? The general audience who doesn't watch these Netflix shows won't care either way, but it baffles me how some want the Netflix actors to reprise their roles, but not all of them.

My take is Feige is going to be strategic with these characters. He could easily bring back some or all of the actors to reprise these roles and leave the previous stories ambiguous. Personally, I would not mind bringing everyone back, including Finn Jones who was OK but not great. And that hits at why I hope Feige will look at each performance and judge accordingly. He could recast DD, Kingpin and Punisher, but what added benefit would he get? Those performances have been universally praised so any upgrade would be marginal at best with the risk of being not as good and alienating a built-in fanbase. The same cannot be said of Jones and Colter, replacing them is not going to matter much to anyone and he may get a better interpretation.

 

[NotNickFury]

My take is Feige is going to be strategic with these characters. He could easily bring back some or all of the actors to reprise these roles and leave the previous stories ambiguous. Personally, I would not mind bringing everyone back, including Finn Jones who was OK but not great. And that hits at why I hope Feige will look at each performance and judge accordingly. He could recast DD, Kingpin and Punisher, but what added benefit would he get? Those performances have been universally praised so any upgrade would be marginal at best with the risk of being not as good and alienating a built-in fanbase. The same cannot be said of Jones and Colter, replacing them is not going to matter much to anyone and he may get a better interpretation.

Then that fanbase is deluded if they're convinced that only one actor can play those roles, regardless of how much praise they got. They have to understand that at some point there'll be another actor playing Daredevil, Punisher...we don't need to go down the list of how characters are seemingly defined by one actor's portrayal, even though said role can and has been recast down the line. The same applies to the Netflix characters. We can hardly say that a recast will run the risk of, as you say, not being as good without even seeing it. What's the aversion to giving another actor a chance?

Were those actors good in those roles? Unquestionably. Can those characters be played by just other actors who can deliver just as good, if not better performances? Also unquestionably. Plus, that built-in fanbase would soon warm up to new performances the same way that fanbases do whenever a character is recast.

 

[OB12]

Then that fanbase is deluded if they're convinced that only one actor can play those roles, regardless of how much praise they got. They have to understand that at some point there'll be another actor playing Daredevil, Punisher...we don't need to go down the list of how characters are seemingly defined by one actor's portrayal, even though said role can and has been recast down the line. The same applies to the Netflix characters. We can hardly say that a recast will run the risk of, as you say, not being as good without even seeing it. What's the aversion to giving another actor a chance?

Were those actors good in those roles? Unquestionably. Can those characters be played by just other actors who can deliver just as good, if not better performances? Also unquestionably. Plus, that built-in fanbase would soon warm up to new performances the same way that fanbases do whenever a character is recast.

I didn't say other actors could not take on those roles and do well. Sure someone else could capably play DD, but it is a risk-reward scenario for Feige. My hope is that he would take the known-good and just run with it, as he is doing with Deadpool.

 

[NotNickFury]

So far Feige hasn't been behind a bad casting yet. Could be the same for the Netflix characters when they're recast and rebooted. Plus, Deadpool's an entirely different beast altogether with his fourth wall breaking and such. Bringing him and Reynolds into the MCU from his own pocket of the X-Men universe is a far simpler task than recasting and rebooting a whole batch of characters that weren't in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

 

[OB12]

Also, I am struggling to come up with a character that was seemingly "defined" by an actor and then matched or outdid by another actor. We have some opportunities upcoming with Wolverine and Iron Man. I guess Spider-Man maybe?? I don't know.

The Joker has had several very high-quality performances by different actors, but beyond that . . .

 

[TheVileOne]

You could make an actual Heroes for Hire show and actually have them fight cool villains and give Danny a f'n costume.

 

[Yowza]

Charlie Cox returning as Daredevil will happen in Spider-Man 3 as a brief cameo supposedly.

He'll probably return as a soft-reboot on the character mid-career. I don't he'll star in his own adventures anytime soon though with 12 Disney+ shows lined up now (well 13 actually if include the Gaurdian's Holiday Special and Groot shorts as 2 separate shows).



American Chavez is being set-up for a show no-doubt having already been cast and appearing in Dr. Strange as well. Out of these series, some will undoubtedly get a 2nd season too.

They should at the very least have a What-If episode devoted to Daredevil if no room for him in the next 4 years.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I am holding out hope that this Star+ thing or Hulu in states maybe keeps the door open for more adult oriented programming from Marvel Studios that could grant a guy like Daredevil an opportunity sooner than later to get his own show. Maybe even partner with FX. They're doing an Alien show. Why not team with Marvel Studios for something cool?

 

[NotNickFury]

Well, there's Moon Knight on the way. No doubt that would probably be mature, right?

 

[Spider-Fan]

Well, there's Moon Knight on the way. No doubt that would probably be mature, right?

Eh. It is Disney+, so I am thinking it will be more family friendly than not

 

[BobJM]

Eh. It is Disney+, so I am thinking it will be more family friendly than not

especially with the “Indiana Jones” descriptor that Feige used during the Investors video.

 

[Steyin]

I wouldn't be surprised to see MM make a quick cameo in She Hulk as well.

 

[Airwings]

Charlie Cox returning as Daredevil will happen in Spider-Man 3 as a brief cameo supposedly.

He'll probably return as a soft-reboot on the character mid-career. I don't he'll star in his own adventures anytime soon though with 12 Disney+ shows lined up now (well 13 actually if include the Gaurdian's Holiday Special and Groot shorts as 2 separate shows).



American Chavez is being set-up for a show no-doubt having already been cast and appearing in Dr. Strange as well. Out of these series, some will undoubtedly get a 2nd season too.

They should at the very least have a What-If episode devoted to Daredevil if no room for him in the next 4 years.

What are the chances for Charlie Cox to be in an Avengers film?
How would they include him on the team? What can he bring to the table?

 

[Spider-Fan]

Eh....Daredevil is not a character I think fits as an Avenger. I would like to see him used other ways

 

[BobJM]

Eh....Daredevil is not a character I think fits as an Avenger. I would like to see him used other ways

Agreed; the MCU really doesn’t have a street-level NYC hero. Daredevil & the new crop of heroes—She-Hulk and Moon Knight specifically—can help to fill that void. Shang-Chi too if He ends up in NY in his film.