What the hell's the point of grades?

[ScottyBBadd]

Its an excuse for your parents to hit you if your dumb.

Good point.

 

[Ice-man]

i hate getting graded, its like i know the work handed out but if i dont do it the way its soposed to be done i get a lower grade, there is more than one way to figure something out, but god forbid its not similer to th teachers work. the god dam teacers make the **** up off the top of their heads sometimes.

i hate school, theres no point in school, school is something that we go threw as part of the system, were bourn, we grow older, we go to school, we go to colledge, we get a job, and we die. thats the system, its the way it has to work in order to make money, money that goes back to the governmeants system.

grading is part of the system, its stupid.

 

[ScottyBBadd]

i hate getting graded, its like i know the work handed out but if i dont do it the way its soposed to be done i get a lower grade, there is more than one way to figure something out, but god forbid its not similer to th teachers work. the god dam teacers make the **** up off the top of their heads sometimes.

i hate school, theres no point in school, school is something that we go threw as part of the system, were bourn, we grow older, we go to school, we go to colledge, we get a job, and we die. thats the system, its the way it has to work in order to make money, money that goes back to the governmeants system.

grading is part of the system, its stupid.

Truer words were never spoken,

 

[Kyalesyin]

The real issue I have with grades is that they don't reflect your actual abilities because the exam setting is artificial. Never, as part of a job, will you be asked to write a twenty point essay on something in half an hour, in total silence with no notes or references, or claculate a bunch of equations without being able to use a calculator or ask the person next to you.

For this reason, I cheat. I have infinite ways of cheating that I'll happily share, because 1: it gives a more realistic show of my abilities and 2: I'm making use of 'all available resources' which is actually what you're supposed to do...

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

Considering a great deal of the populous here is high school students, this perhaps strikes even greater relevance with them since grade in High School are even more useless. I finished my first year of college and I'm left staring at the grading system, wondering what's the point? Like seriously, there's a culture devoted to the grading of one's intelligence, hell we have things like the bell-curve, where we have it down to a science as to what your potential will be according to race. We have IQ tests and various other things, and then we have grades. And I'm left baffled... Because what in god's name does a GPA have to do with the real-world? Bah, I've always hated the rat-race known as school, it just seems all relatively pointless in the greater scheme of things.

America likes to think it still has a notch up on the world competition.But its sad when people do not want to learn,to add more to what they know.True,most people will just work themselfs to death in second rate jobs..but they like to think they will be more than that.

 

[Jack Rabbit]

In almost every class in high school I did what I needed to pass, usually aiming for a 'B', for show. But ****, I never broke my neck over it or anything. Do what you need to get by, absorb SOME knowledge.

Even in my MOS school I did what I needed to scrape by. I wasn't getting promoted for being honor grad or anything. **** it. I'm quite capable of doing my job now.

 

[Ice-man]

The real issue I have with grades is that they don't reflect your actual abilities because the exam setting is artificial. Never, as part of a job, will you be asked to write a twenty point essay on something in half an hour, in total silence with no notes or references, or claculate a bunch of equations without being able to use a calculator or ask the person next to you.

For this reason, I cheat. I have infinite ways of cheating that I'll happily share, because 1: it gives a more realistic show of my abilities and 2: I'm making use of 'all available resources' which is actually what you're supposed to do...

lol i thought i was like the only one who got by in school by cheating, i cheated my way threw all of high school. and i did just as good as the people who spend a **** load of time doing the work.

which only proves you can cheat the system!!


what are your cheating methods?


lol my most affective method is robbing the teachers textbooks, when we get homework i just look in their books and copy down evrything, but i try to make it like i did it.

tets are a bit harder for me to cheat on, but i get tested in different classes. the teacher reads the tests out and the answer choices, she secretly gives out the answers but you have to be quick to catch what she says.

i pass with low 70's high 80's

 

[Kyalesyin]

Cheating for beginners:

Notes on the hand. These work really well for something brief- if you gotta remember the name of a key study. Best way to do it is to code them to look like something innocent- as in 'Call E. Bott 9:50 re: London.' Gave me a name, a date and the location of the study. Simple as that. Good for bumping a grade or two.

Notes on a tissue. This works best if the day before the exam, you fake the very beginnings of a stuffy nose. Before the exam, take your tissue, and write some brief notes on it. Fold it so that you have enough space to concievebaly read the stuff, and make it look like you're just unfolding it to wipe your nose. Make sure you've got it set up so that they can't see you've written something on it from the other side, and stuff it into your pocket or up your sleeve as soon as its done. Someone finds that you're in the ****. Also, don't write too much. You stare at the tissue too long, they get suspicious.

Writing on the side of your pencil. Works best on a scabby, scarred up pencil, but you can sometimes write a key word up the side [I have 'egocentric' 'nomothetic' and 'mols=mass/form mass' on my pencil'] and if the thing just looks generally scratched and abused, they don't pay too much attention.

Sticky labels. If you have an opaque ruler and they allow you to take it to the exam and won't check your things, put some white [or any colour] sticky labels on the underneath with your idiot notes on them. Just make sure that you put the thing down the right way when you use it. I tend to make it look like I'm fiddling with it while I'm thinking when I peek at my notes, so it isn't too obvious. Same goes for exams that allow calculators, especially if you have the fancy ones with the sliding covers.

Also, read the desk. Only happened to me once, but I was sat in a german exam once, and someone had written a list of words with their past tense variable on the desk where I was sat. Needless to say, it helped.

 

[Ice-man]

^ madd old school methods, pretty affective.

 

[Kyalesyin]

Old, tried, and tested. Since they disqualify you here if they find a phone switched off and in your bag, at the back of the room. So, you gotta ger creative.

 

[Movies205]

Cheating in High School is okay, mainly because it's four useless years of your life in terms of academics, outside Chemistry/Physics and Alegbra 2/Geometry, you've already learned most of what they teach you in Elementry school. So yeah, I cheated in High School and rarely got caught... But you think you're going pull that **** in college, you have another thing coming. Luckily I was smart enough to know the bull**** I did in HS, doesn't cut it in college, and I was actually going have to work since most of it is writing papers anyway. Plus if you're cheating in College, that's pretty pathetic considering your paying over ten grand a year to go, some people 30 grand a year, and some even more... So basically what your doing is paying all that money for absolutely nothing.... The point of this thread, is really to illustrate that... Education should be more than about a grade.

 

[Kyalesyin]

Cheating in High School is okay, mainly because it's four useless years of your life in terms of academics, outside Chemistry/Physics and Alegbra 2/Geometry, you've already learned most of what they teach you in Elementry school. So yeah, I cheated in High School and rarely got caught... But you think you're going pull that **** in college, you have another thing coming. Luckily I was smart enough to know the bull**** I did in HS, doesn't cut it in college, and I was actually going have to work since most of it is writing papers anyway. Plus if you're cheating in College, that's pretty pathetic considering your paying over ten grand a year to go, some people 30 grand a year, and some even more... So basically what your doing is paying all that money for absolutely nothing.... The point of this thread, is really to illustrate that... Education should be more than about a grade.

Dude, I'm in college. No way I'm gonna risk failing. So, I cheat.

Then again, this is british college. 16-18 year old kids pretending to study...

 

[Movies205]

Dude, I'm in college. No way I'm gonna risk failing. So, I cheat.

Then again, this is british college. 16-18 year old kids pretending to study...

Ah... I'm actually studying abroad in England next semester... What college do you study at?

 

[Kyalesyin]

CFE- Plymouth. Its bad. I mean really bad. They treat us like ten-year olds. I have to take a basic IT class to pass this year... despite the fact that I've been building computers since I was a kid I have to take a class on how to open a word document and save a file with a bunch of beauty therapists, and take classes like 'money management' and 'essay planning' despite trying to juggle four A levels. If I needed money management, I don't think I'd have been able to live away from home and pay my own bills for the past two years, and essay planning? Give me a break. I'm a writer.

 

[terry78]

Schools and colleges are basically a way to keep all the immature people at bay until they gain enough life experience to get it out of their system and become productive society members. You want the 5-21 year olds out of your hair during the day, otherwise they'd just be walking around causing trouble, painting graffiti, dissing "the man", etc.

 

[Kyalesyin]

Even so, I really wish they'd sort us by intelligence. The number of ****wits that I have in some of my classes... Should get back in beauty therapy where they belong and leave the inteligent subjects alone.

 

[CyberFaust]

what inteligent subjects, the money management or the windows office thing?

 

[Kyalesyin]

No, intelligent subjects like chemistry. I hate having to waste a lesson because some ****tard can't think through all the hairspray. The money management is 'enrichment'- extra classes that everyone has to take no matter what else you're studying.

 

[November Rain]

grades are generally one's first experience of some sort of hierachy outside of the family system where there is potential for one to move up the hierachy if work is done.

it's basically the first means of control that you will moderated with for the rest of your life.

and apparently, there is a correlation between high achievers at school and hard working people in the workplace...

it is this assumption that really is the problem.