What type of Superman film would you have preferred?

I would of liked to have Superman Returns without the kid and with Lex doing something more along the line of what he did in the Birthright comic not the stupid land scenerio. But you could still have Lois move on but without the kid and have her still mad at Superman.
 
none at all might have been good? let singer stay with x-men and get a decent third part of the trilogy!!!!
 
I voted for 'Superman Returns'... but have to admit a total restart has its advantages.

Personally, I loved 'Superman Returns' but I did feel as though Singer relied far too heavily on his love for the older films. I'd been under the impression his film was to work as a "sequel" only to those who wanted to view it as such. By linking them as closely as he did, it begs so many questions about the film's reality... for example, the Phantom Zone and the silver satin bed - two things that are just plain dopey in this day and age.

Don't even get me started on how spinning the globe turns time back. Ugh. :mad:

What I'd like to have seen is the film as it stands but without the cheesy opening credits, a more respected businessman Lex Luthor and some comic ties to lead into more current, action-packed sequels featuring characters like Doomsday and Brainiac. I still hold hope for a Brainiac origin similar to the animated series... perhaps leading on from the crystals being sent into space or something. I dunno.

I just think Singer did an awesome job but needs to pull his head out of his arse a bit and remember one thing: Superman is a comic property first and foremost. Following the Donner reality can only go so far in the 21st Century.
 
I liked Superman Returns but I was hoping for a restart, maybe they could of called it...

Superman Starts :)
 
DeFett said:
I liked Superman Returns but I was hoping for a restart, maybe they could of called it...

Superman Starts :)

Hey... I wouldn't put it past WB to have called it that.

Maybe the sequel would have been 'Superman Continues', followed by 'Superman Ends' and - if that's an unprecedented success - 'Superman Starts Over Again Because We Made A Boo-Boo On The Last Title'.

Gagh! Film titles in Hollywood give me the poos. :rolleyes:
 
SR was great, but restart would've been epic and Batman Begins calibur.

I hated:

- Lex without Lexcorp.
- Superman having a son. :down :mad: :ghost:
 
I liked the way the son was handled and the genuine emotion shown by Supes in that final bedroom scene... but I really can't see that plot thread working down the track in future films. I'll just be expecting Krypto to enter the scene... followed by Supergirl... and Lois in that green superhero costume. Ugh.
 
Disclaimer said:
I liked the way the son was handled and the genuine emotion shown by Supes in that final bedroom scene... but I really can't see that plot thread working down the track in future films. I'll just be expecting Krypto to enter the scene... followed by Supergirl... and Lois in that green superhero costume. Ugh.

I'm surprised they didn't bring back Otis and Lexs old goons. A super kid just makes it harder to have a good for a sequal.
 
They should've done a GOG film instead, so we can watch superman get his ass kicked in loadsa dimensions and die!
 
I'm of the opinion that a restart would've worked better. Singer did a good job directing SR, the FX were great. The cast was just okay, though it could've been better-Lois, Perry White, & Lex mainly.

As much as I like the Donner films, you can't recreate that magic with a whole new cast and in a different time. Today's movie audience is far more used to flashy FX and won't be awed just to see Superman fly, esp. after the Superman-inspired throwdown at the end of Matrix Revolutions.

It was a mistake for Singer to try to make a sequel for the Donner films instead of just reinventing Superman for the 21st century. It seemed like he would be up to the challenge for that. He did a good job bringing the X-Men to the silver screen.

Singer's attempts to contemporize Superman-the kid, the religious references, the lack of American Way, didn't work for me. If anything they created something of a disconnect for me. They make him less relatable or heroic. Who wants to be an absentee father? Or stalker? I've also never seen Superman as a god, though admittedly he had god-like powers. I would've just played up the alien angle, like Smallville does.

The scenes with the kid were fine, but like another poster said, I just feel that it will only be mishandled and complicate things in future movies. You could still have Lois be frustrated with Supes without throwing a kid into the mix.

I also wanted to see a more modern Luthor. Come on Singer, you have comics, cartoons, and Smallville at your disposal, and you don't read/watch any of it? How could you not incorporate some of the post-Crisis stuff into the movie? That's lazy to me. I mean, the comic and animation guys are producing work that is resonating with people, and you can best believe that the people reading the comics and watching STAS/JLU or Smallville were some of the first in line for SR. Not checking out other, more modern interpretations of Superman was ill conceived on Singer's part.

I wish Singer had at least flipped through Lex Luthor: Man of Steel, or had watched at least the first episode of STAS. I would've rather seen that adapted to film than SR.

I enjoyed the John Williams score. That is the best Superman score, and it really got me excited. SR didn't live up to the promise of the opening credits.
 
lordofthenerds said:
I liked Superman Returns so I voted for that.

Same here. Donner Superman was great. Batman redo made sense, because Burton's Batman had lots of room for improvement as far as being faithful to the character.
 
I really liked Superman Returns, but I kind of wanted a restart. The actors were good, but I just really did not like the kid.
You could do a restart without the origin or maybe flash back to Krypton.
 
After seeing how it played out, I really don't get why people still have a problem with the kid. I mean, Supes is married in the comics already, so having a child isn't that much of a stretch.

And as for the deadbeat dad thing...he didn't know she was pregnant. It was a mistake, an accident. If anything, it should be viewed as a bit of a tragedy rather then sleazy like most people make it out to be.
Disclaimer said:
I liked the way the son was handled and the genuine emotion shown by Supes in that final bedroom scene... but I really can't see that plot thread working down the track in future films. I'll just be expecting Krypto to enter the scene... followed by Supergirl... and Lois in that green superhero costume. Ugh.
It's not like the kid's going to become Superboy at the age of 8.

If that plotline wasn't resolved in SR (and it wasn't) I'm sure Singer has something planned. And as you said, he handled the subplot so well in the film, I don't see why he can't do the same in #2, 3, etc.
 
A restart was the best way to go since the Reeve series is 20 years old and not as fresh as some people say it is. It was done with Batman, why not Superman?
 
It was done with Batman because there were elements of his origin that wasnt shown.....Superman's origin was done over and over in STM,Superboy the series, Lois and Clark,STAS,Smallville....
 
roach said:
It was done with Batman because there were elements of his origin that wasnt shown.....Superman's origin was done over and over in STM,Superboy the series, Lois and Clark,STAS,Smallville....

With the exception of STM, those are TV series not films.
 
I definitely would've done a restart, but what we received in SR I was ecstatic over. I would've taken from several eras of Superman's history and made something that's an amalgam of the different incarnations.

-Superman wouldn't be a de-powered wuss like in STAS
-Krypton would look something like in the Flyby designs
-Lex would be a scientist AND a business mogul
-Superman would be portrayed the same as Reeve's version, because for my money that is the only one that separates Kent and Superman effectively enough to not make my stomach turn (ala Dean Cain)

As for SR, I've said it time and time again...they should've had Lex use the molecule chamber to give himself super-powers. It would've been the greatest showdown in history because you just know that Lex doesn't fight fair. However, what was in SR was good and I truly believe that Singer's sequel will be even better now that he's established the universe for his version's of the characters.
 
One that had a ton of action and a serious supervillian like Darkseid!
 
I wouldnt have wanted another origin telling, so I vote Superman Returns. Though I think it could have strayed even further than it did from the original movies and no one would have minded...
 
As a fan of SR, I think things are fine the way they are. The origin definitely doesn't need to be retold.
 
I was glad with the approach that Warner Brothers decided to take. I feel that Superman The Movie told the origin of Superman so perfectly, I don't think it needed to be told again. I really loved Superman Returns, I thought it was tremendous. :supes:
 
Superman Returns... it wasnt really a complete sequel to reeves films... id say it was a remake at the same time.
 
Superman Returns. Its the best of both worlds. Its a restart in a sense and we still could get the elements of 'Superman Begins' in flashbacks for the sequel. 'Smallville' would be cancelled by then so there wouldnt be any need to worry about stepping on their toes.

I heard Steven Bender was asked to return to play 18 year old Clark in the next film.
 
no superman film might have been better? I wanna see GOG in a film, and watch supermen from across dimensions get killed:)
 

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