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Superman Returns what u would do to improve superman returns.

A good script and a good story without Luthor would be a start.
 
New costume, addition of a supervillain, no kid, no Kitty, no ***** Lex Luthor... same stuff the majority has been harping over. :o
 
1. I wanted to hear more from the public about what they thought of Superman. the average joes, political figures, cops, etc. We really didn't get that.

2. Incorperate Lexcorp into the plot. No more real estate plots!

3. No Kitty. Add Mercy.

4. No Kid. I'm okay with the love triangle.
 
Showtime029 said:
I loved the idea of a return story and I enjoyed the movie, but if I had the same plot involving the Return of Superman I would have done this:

*Make it clear in the movie that Lex was the one who drove Superman back to Krypton. Some how setting up a plot with Stanford to make it look like Krypton was still a possible hotspot for life. I believe this was in the script and in the novel but was cut.

*I would have given more time in Smallville for Clark to ponder if he even wants to be Superman anymore because it seems the world doesn't actually need him. This was written in the script and was a big part of the original idea, the world not needing Superman. This would give Ma Kent a bigger role in bringing him back.

*I loved the beggining, the STM font flying through different parts of space, very nostalgic. The problem is I would have rather seen the original idea of shots from the old movies, a recap of what happened, plus some shots of him going back to Krypton. They could have done it right through the credits up until his landing.

*I would have nixed the kid idea, although I thought it worked well in the movie. They did it in a subtle manner and I was relieved how it was handled. I would rather see that Lois has moved on with somebody else, maybe even Richard but without child.

*Not only has Lois and the world moved on without Superman but Lex has capitalized on this. Because Superman left and never appeared in at Luthors court date, he was released, just like in Returns. The difference is that Lex uses his Vanderworth money to start Lexcorp and makes himself a savior to Metropolis. Donates money to fight crime and becomes a tycoon that helps Metropolis grow in every area. He is now running for office, mayor, governor, senator, it doesn't matter. His platform is that he has done more for Metropolis or what not in the past 5 years than even Superman has done. He makes the people turn against Superman. Now that Luthor has all these connections he can do anything. He finds the FOS and uses the technology with help from STARS LABS to create Metallo.

So many possibilities.

I wrote this a week or so before SR came out, seems like we're on a similar page as far as what we wanted. I jacked up the action a bit more, because that's the name of the game with Superman, a guy who's not afraid to solve a problem with his fists.

-Luthor is clearly manipulating Superman, by making him believe there are survivors on Krypton through an elaborate hoax.

-After his 5 year trip, Superman returns to find a startling revelation. Luthor is a hero! In Superman's absence, Luthor has made technoligical advances that made metropolis a utopia, thus winning over the hearts and minds of the people of earth.

-Lois is engaged to Richard White, but there's no kid involved.

-Luthor effectively turns the population against Superman. While he was off soul searching for a dead world(as Lex puts it) Luthor's made amazing technological advances that have benefited mankind, advances he's realized after cannibalizing the FoS, and creating a new terran/kryptonian hybrid. Superman is obsolete because of new lexor-type bodyarmour the police, firemen and paramedics are equipped with.

-Clark reunites with DP staff, while the rest of them investigate Superman's Return, Clark starts digging into Luthor's activities during his absence. Specifically how Luthor explained cannibalizing kryptonian tech.

-Luthor while a benefactor to the public, isn't afraid to strongarm anyone he can't buy. Luthor is a brilliant sceintist, who enjoys chess. That's how he views his buisness dealings, calculated means to aquire legtimate power to fund his less ethical ambitions. To rid the world of Superman's influence, to insure that humanity retain free will. Now that Superman has returned, he starts to orchastrate his destruction.

-Superman and Lois reunite. It's bittersweet, because they realize it's over, she's moved on.

-Richard and Lois develop tension about Superman's past involvement in her life.

-Jimmy is Luthor's biggest fan, he likes the idea of cops and firemen who can fly around in bulletproof bodyarmor. He is also a little resentful his pal left for 5 years, as most of the world. When he finds out Clark is researching Luthor's activities, tension develops between the two, not too much.

-Luthor's hybrid tech isn't as stable as he claims. Most breakdowns are easy to cover up, but one system managing a fusion reactor malfunctions. A disaster is immenent, and only Superman can save the day. After doing so, he earns some public for it. He starts to reclaim his place in the world as the fastest emergency response yet.

-Luthor plans Superman’s destruction, he’s capable of winning them over again and Luthor wont have that. His assistant Mercy, organizes the criminal element so Luthor can keep his hands clean, not to mention the air he breathes. He has handlers to deal with the help. Luthor is smart enough to aquire power, destroy Superman, and remain free from prosecution all at the same time.

-Bored of Superman stories, and weary of Richard’s insecurities, Lois finds solace in helping Clark with his investigation. Luthor has little actual account for his discoveries, it’s as if they appeared. Clark is going to interview a scientist with the inside scoop on Luthor’s tech. He makes her promise not to scoop him, she laughs.

-Luthor’s high tech goons wreak havok in the city, attempting to lure Superman out for an old fashioned showdown. They are nothing more than a diversion for an assassin named Floyd Lawton, to execute Superman with a kryptonian designed sniper rifle that fires kryptonite rounds. A nasty .50 cal from space.

-Lois and Clark arrive at Emil Hamilton’s apartment. This elderly scientist reveals that the technology is kryptonian in origin. Hamilton was there when Luthor pilfered the FoS, he was ashamed to admit his scientific curiosity got the better of him. Ethically it was wrong, but it was alien artifacts and technology. Emil plays back a history file from the fortress. The big revelation is that the key to the kryptonian technology was an underlying universal AI program. In order to control it, the tech’s natural AI system had to be suppressed. This is a source of constant struggle, and the instability of Luthor’s systems.

-Rough riding Terra-Men wreak havok on the city to lure out Superman. The police battle suit technology is no mach for their upgraded version. It’s Iron Man 1963 V.S. 2006. It’s ugly.

-Clark leaves Lois to finish the interview. He’s too preoccupied to eavesdrop on them, so he doesn’t hear Emil talk about the strange coincidence that coincides with Superman’s return. The incidents in AI suppresion that he monitor’s from his make shift lab have increased exponentially, as if there was some sort of connection between it and Superman, as if it was reaching out to him, trying to communicate to him.

-Superman and the Terra-men duke it out. It’s a big fight, rocket bikes v.s. Superman. As he starts disabling his foes, Lawton lines up his shot.

-Luthor watches the event unfold from his lab. An underling named Gus alerts him to the alarming AI activity. It’s a massive spike unlike they’ve ever seen it. Luthor doesn’t downplay his concerns, he realizes there is some connection between the man and his machines from krypton, and he fears the worst, alien subjugation of the human race.

-Lois ends her interview when she gets a call from Perry about the brawl downtown. She’s to meet with Olsen and cover the story....

-Superman has things under control, the police reinforcements have just started to arrive. The terra-men are in custody when the AI manages to assert itself, through their advanced weapons and gear. It was a “pure” version of kryptonian tech, with little restraints. The AI actualizes itself, and reforms the gear, vehicles, and weapons that Luthor provided to the Terra-men, into a grotesque humanoid figure to personally address Kal-El. Problem is, the Terra-man weren’t extricated from their gear and vehicles at this time, so when the AI reforms the equipment into a body, he grafts the bikers to himself, killing some instantly, others not so quickly.

-Lawton freaks out and requests new instructions from Luthor. Luthor is equally mesmerized, but tells him to stand down. The boy scout may prove to be useful in dealing with this new development, but he tells Lawton to remain vigil. Either way, the kryptonian falls tonight, maybe he will get to give his life to save the city one last time.

-Superman is horrified, pleads with the creature to stop, it’s killing the men inside. The AI explains itself, who it is, its history and it’s purpose, ultimately to serve the last son of krypton by replicating krypton itself. It would have done so earlier, but it was so isolated in the Antarctic. Superman won’t allow it, and threatens to eliminate the program, the program vows to survive in the face of all adversity to preserve krypton, and will eradicate any who opposes it.

-Superman v.s. Eradicator (think mobile suit gundam.)It’s a huge spectacle all over the globe, from the depths of the ocean to the top of the stratosphere, etc. As the fight progresses, Luthor contacts Superman via ultrasonic frequency. He offers his aid to the man of steel, which Superman questionably accepts. He asks Luthor if he should be concerned about getting shot in the back with that nasty looking gun that gentleman was packing on the building adjacent to the fight. Luthor laughs, Lawton is back in Luthor’s office, but Lex assures Superman he’s getting paranoid. He’s modifying Lawton’s gun and tells Superman all he has to do is lure the Eradicator back to metropolis.

-Which turns out to be easy, it needs to replicate it’s supply of kryptonian materials it has lost in the battle. On it’s own accord it heads back to Metropolis, after it immobilizes Superman. Deep in the ocean, or under a mountain, or out in space, somehow he knocks Superman the **** out.

-The Eradicator begins to return to metropolis, starts absorbing the materials, increasing in size and rebuilding itself. It’s destroying the downtown area, including Luthor’s building. Him, Mercy and Lawton leave in a tech safe helicopter to go save the city where the alien failed.

-In the chaos of evacuation, Richard arrives to find Lois in danger in pursuit of the story, and in saving her from some precarious situation, ends up suffering a mortal wound in the process. Lois comforts Richard as he lay dying, and this bit of calm amidst the chaos intrigues the Eradicator enough to notice. Upon closer inspection, it recognizes Lois from Superman’s personal records. It quickly theorizes that Superman’s affection for humanity must be borne out of his affection for this woman. When voiced plainly, this observation hurts Richard even more than the realization of his impending death. The Eradicator ponders what would be the most efficient way of dealing with her negative influence, converting the female to a proper kryptonian lady through cerebral implants, or eliminating her completely.

-Superman returns to slam into the 40 foot robot at very high speed, trying to give Lois and Richard room to run. Inadvertantly, the Eradicator’s shifting weight causes a structural collapse beneath Lois and Richard, separating the two. Lois is unharmed when the dust settles, but Richard is nowhere to be found. She sees some light through the debris and starts digging her way out.

-Luthor and Lawton get into position as Superman and the Eradicator continue to fight. The Eradicator got the upper hand when Superman was distracted with the “cave in” that swallowed up Lois and Richard. Luthor manages to get Superman to pay attention long enough to play his part. Luthor has redesigned Lawton’s Gun to fire a projectile containing override program designed to fool the eradicator into initiating a travel protocol, the same one that allowed it to be transported to earth in Superman’s craft. He needs Superman to expose a specific area that Luthor has determined to be best receptive to the code. Despite the fatigue and wear of this extended Super-fight, Superman manages to overcome the Eradicator‘s defenses, tear open the hull, exposing the vital drive which allows Lawton to make the shot.

-The code works, but not exactly as Luthor implied it would. The Eradicator fragments as it contracts, replicating a smaller transport construct. These fragmented pieces contain kryptonite radiation, which is revealed to be a by-product of this technology. Seems that kryptonians were as infallible as humans are about technology that produced harmful waste products. It wasn’t the explosion that turned krypton into kryptonite, it was the technology that turned krypton into kryptonite, which triggered the core to explode. (A little parallel to scare the kiddies into being responsible about the environment.)

-Luthor leaves him to die with that bit of information as Lawton and he go off to mourn his valiant sacrifice to the world, and bask in their victory. Mercy fires up the helicopter and they sail off into the night sky.

-Superman is about to pass out from k poisoning, when Lois emerges form the rubble. She has to choose between getting Superman out of the area, or looking for her mortally wounded fiancee lost in the rubble. With a heavy heart, Lois drags Superman away from the kryptonite, leaving Richard to die alone.

-Superman pleads with her to go back, but she won't. Richard is buried in a collapsed underground parking lot. Even if she could find him, it would never be soon enough. Lois knows what a fatal wound looks like. As she gets Superman clear of the battle scene, emergency response units take over.

-They try to put Superman on a stretcher but he wont lay down. They are trying to resucitate him with an oxygen mask, but he's not cooperating. At first he's fumbling them away as a normal man would, then a hint of strength returns, just enough to hoist a paramedic over head. A sign for everyone else to just give him some space.

-Superman is battered, exhausted, and poisoned with k radiation. He's almost gasping like a fish out of water. He starts to soar upwards, feebly at first, but higher as the small crowd starts to cheer, and a bit steadier. In blatant hommage to Miller, Superman soars up into the upper atmosphere, into outer space, drawing more and more power from the direct raw sunlight, undiluted by the earth's atmospere. Charged up enough to hit cruising speed, Superman races towards the sun for a proper recharge. The closer he gets, the faster he travels. He skims across the surface of the Sun, slingshotting his way back to Earth, fully recharged and ready to assist in the clean up in any way he can.

-Superman bolts away from Sun like a comet heading for Earth.

-A (planet free) section of outer space fades to black.
-Black.
-Still.
-Black.
-A gasp.
-A blood curtling, choking drowning noise peirces the darkness.
-The darkness becomes underground rubble, illuminated by a feint green glow.

-In the rubble, Richard prepares to die, cursing Superman with his last breath, he notices the glow of green light. Hope is quickly dashed when he realizes it’s coming from a scrap of Eradicator, shifting, sliding towards him. To his surprise, it's offering him thoughts of salvation, power, and revenge. "What say you human, wouldn't it be better to live together than die alone?"
-Richard smiles as he dies, and hisses, "Yesss…"

What do you think Showtime? Too much violence? Not enough fanboy?:D
 
- Start over like Batman Begins. No clinging to an iteration from the freaking 70's.

- NO NO NO Lex Luthor. They already did him. He was boring as hell then, he's boring as hell now.

- No "disappearing for 5 years without so much as a goodbye". It was preposterous and only made it M.O.R.E. ridiculous that no one knows
Clark is Superman
Because now it's not just a case of "Hmmm...Why does Clark always disappear whenever Superman's around?:confused:", now Clark actually disappears for the exact duration of 5 years as Superman and just by coincidence REappears right when SM does.
Incredibly ******ed.

- No Deadbeat Dad Superman. No son of Superman at all. Preposterous.

- If just landing on the island made him susceptible to punches, there is no freaking way, I don't care how heroic or mighty the will, that he could lift the whole Island with pulsing, glowing kryptonite all around him, right next to his hands. Again, unbelievably ******ed.

- They needed a Barbara Stanwyck-like charismatic "fire-ball" of a woman for Lois. The chick did a good job, but she was just sorely mis-cast.

- You need more of a grown-up, paternal kind of Superman. Again, the dude did a good job, he was just mis-cast. WaY too young-looking.
 
lazur said:
Or maybe his standards are high and you are just a malcontent over the top fanboy?

Or maybe my standards are just alot higher, considering this wasn't a good movie :up:
 
1) The movie is too dark, both visually and metaphorically. It's Superman, dammit - use a bright color palate, especially on the suit! There was way too much "Somber Singer blue" coloring.

2) Brandon Routh does a passable Christopher Reeve impression, but he does NOT have the screen presence to pull off Superman. Shoulda saved Routh for a Reeve TV movie or something.

3) The Man of Steel is a paragon of virtue, there's no way he should have a bastard son, period. What the hell were they thinking?

4) Get rid of Richard White and put him in X3 where he belongs.
 
retconned said:
Or maybe my standards are just alot higher, considering this wasn't a good movie :up:

Hey man, I'm not telling you what and what not to say, but Lazur didnt do anything to you. He just said he liked the movie, and you jumped all over him for liking a movie that you didn't. I'm not saying you're wrong for not liking it, just wrong for slamming Lazur for no good reason. Leave him alone, you're just being bothersome by not supporting your statements with good reason. Lets keep this place nice man. :) Anyone else sticking up for Lazur?
 
Metropolis_Man said:
Hey man, I'm not telling you what and what not to say, but Lazur didnt do anything to you. He just said he liked the movie, and you jumped all over him for liking a movie that you didn't. I'm not saying you're wrong for not liking it, just wrong for slamming Lazur for no good reason. Leave him alone, you're just being bothersome by not supporting your statements with good reason. Lets keep this place nice man. :) Anyone else sticking up for Lazur?

I liked your other post. Why'd you edit it? The banned words, the offensive language, etc. was working well. Oh and by the way, lazur is more than capable of handling himself. So no one needs to stick up for him. The guy can take care of himself without a problem.
 
Fire Singer

Fire the stupid writers

better story

better actors

a cool villian that could have a chance fighting Superman
 
M.E.H.Z.E.B said:
I liked your other post. Why'd you edit it? The banned words, the offensive language, etc. was working well. Oh and by the way, lazur is more than capable of handling himself. So no one needs to stick up for him. The guy can take care of himself without a problem.

Haha, I just read over it and realized its not something I would normally say. Its hard for me to be offensive and mean, and I don't want other problems sprouting up. And I'm glad Lazur can handle himself :) I'm with him though, I completely loved the movie. And as for improvements, I probably would've edited the film a bit differently. More scenes on the farm, and I defiantely would've included the Krypton searching scene in there. I would've made Lex the corporate saint in the public eye, with him being dirty behind closed doors. There are some really good suggestions here.
 
retconned said:
As far as movie idea's go, I live by the philosphy that anything I would, or could, create should be mine and mine alone. Im not going to posting idea's or scripts on this site.

As far as different directors go, I dunno, the usual picks are there. Steven Spielberg, James Cameron, Peter Jackson. Both Spielberg and Cameron have both expressed interest in doing a comic book based film one day, they would just want total creative control, which for some odd reason Singer and his wack pack recieved. And not to mention, I would take Jackson's King Kong over Singer's Superman any day, and thats sad as hell for me to say considering I love Superman. But Singer just made a boring, emotionally unsatisfying film that floating post-flush turds like Kal-El2006 enjoy because of the naive reason that Superman is flying again. Im a fan of Superman, but like I do everything else, I graded this movie on quality, and the film didn't have that much in both the dramatic and the action scenes.

As for other directors, I have some choices that some might refer to as out of left field, but so be it.

Well said. I agree with everything you said. You understand Superman. The fact that you are so forthright about what you say is not because you're negative, it's because you care about the character, and want people to see what he means. Not the jaded view of what Singer wants us to think Superman is or is spewing out.

I'll post a couple of my ideas later tonight or tomorrow. I'm not going to go too much into detail. If someone wants to hire me, go for it. I don't just hand out creativity for free.
 
1. I'd change the tone of the entire movie, and make it more like the tone of the spider-man flicks, donners superman movies, and pretty much every other version of superman. This movie was too dark and serious for a superman movie. way too heavy. Instead of trying to make it a drama so fanboys can get my respect, i'd make it an fun adventure film that appeals to everyone. A good romance between Lois and Superman for females, a Superpowered villain for the ADD kids out there, and nods to the comic for fanboys. SR simply didnt appeal to everybody, and that may be fine for fanboys, but i find it disgusting that the guy who was voted the number two american icon isnt doing well at the BO.

2. Better marketing campaign. The marketing would be similar to X3. The trailers would try to create action and excitement for the movie instead of painting it as a chick flick or heavy drama. I'd play up the fact that SR marks the return of an american institution, and that the movie offers something you cant watch on smallville.

3. More action. Besides the plane scene and the bank scene, this movie was lacking some exciting stuff. I wouldve tried to make each action scene better than the one before it. Also, a Supervillain would've made things more exciting. It would also change the perception that Superman is unstoppable. In my SR, Supes would be fighting Metallo, and thugs armed with high tech weapons given to them by Lex Luthor.

4. A movie that takes from all versions of the superman mythos. Saying the movie was bad because it only took from donner when it shouldve only taken from post crisis is incredibly pretentious. Each version of Superman has something interesting to offer up.

5. No origin. At this point, Superman dosent need a new origin story. a simple flashback during the credits would be more than enough.

6. A set up for a sequel. There was none in SR. At all. The end of this movie would signify the coming of Brainiac.
 
I know this could be heresy to Superman fans, but how about this: power Superman down. In Donner's film and in SR, Superman was way too powerful; the only way Singer was left to generate suspense was to put the supporting characters in danger. Eventually that can get silly.
In a future Superman film, he should not be able to turn back time, lift continets, or fly near the speed of light. By putting some real limits on his powers and showing that he can get hurt or be beaten, and not just by Kryptonite, would go a long way towards making a story more suspenseful and exciting.
 
I wouldn't do any thing. I loved the movie. It's not my job or priority to sift through a film that many people poured their hearts and souls into to create, and say that this, this, and that should be different. I'm not critisizing any of you. You have all the rite in the world to dislike the movie, and I don't really have a problem with this topic or what has been said, but I feel it's pointless to brainstorm about how you could improve someone else's work, where you really aren't entitled to, but that's just me. Sorry for going off topic.
 
D-Bone said:
I know this could be heresy to Superman fans, but how about this: power Superman down. In Donner's film and in SR, Superman was way too powerful; the only way Singer was left to generate suspense was to put the supporting characters in danger. Eventually that can get silly.
In a future Superman film, he should not be able to turn back time, lift continets, or fly near the speed of light. By putting some real limits on his powers and showing that he can get hurt or be beaten, and not just by Kryptonite, would go a long way towards making a story more suspenseful and exciting.

That's not heresy. There's nothing wrong with it, and the notion that Superman isn't all powerful or could be hurt by people with something other than kryptonite, is a great idea. Bring on Darkseid, or Mongul. They can hold their own against him in hand to hand, so can Brainiac. Putting defined limits on Superman is a great idea.

It's pretty lame and cheesy, IMO seeing him being able to lift continents, or move planets, moons, etc. Another thing I'd definitely do is put him on the level of the JL/JLU Superman power-wise. Not too powerful, and not too weak. Able to rise to the occasion when needed.

You have a good idea here. :up:
 
D-Bone said:
I know this could be heresy to Superman fans, but how about this: power Superman down. In Donner's film and in SR, Superman was way too powerful; the only way Singer was left to generate suspense was to put the supporting characters in danger. Eventually that can get silly.
In a future Superman film, he should not be able to turn back time, lift continets, or fly near the speed of light. By putting some real limits on his powers and showing that he can get hurt or be beaten, and not just by Kryptonite, would go a long way towards making a story more suspenseful and exciting.

Nope, not heresy, at least not to me.
My favorite Superman story is Secret Identity.
That Superman IS not the same as the original.
He is nowhere near as powerful, and is even more human(He is human).
He can be hurt by missiles, he even ages like a human.
 
Well......Superman didn't lift a continent.

And the time thing is laughed at this day and age, and he didn't seem OVERLY fast in SR. He was fast, but not like the Flash or anything.

I dunno, his power level was spot on I thought.

The only thing I thing the film needed (apart from a better marketing campaign) was a guy for Superman to hit. I'd had had Metallo in there, leave the story EXACTLY the same.
 
Anyone remember this?

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Hollow/2930/supermanmanofsteel.html

Another one of the many Superman scripts rejected by Jon Peters (before he saw "the light")

To Sum up:

Superman: The Man of Steel

* The story stands alone from the previous would-be screenplays as it eschews the Death of Superman storyline for an entirely original story. It explores all elements of the life of Superman and Clark Kent as he travels back and forth between Metropolis and Smallville, featuring appearances by The Kents, Lana Lang, and a brief cameo from Wonder Woman.

* The plot involves Lex Luthor, determined to destroy Superman, creating the cyborg Metallo with a kryponite power source. By the end, Superman destroys Metallo, but is unable to prove Luthor was involved. Luthor secretly collects the remains of Metallo.

Lorenzo di Bonaventura buys Ford's script and invites him to the Warners offices. Ford lays a franchise-resuscitating plan that would begin with seven films, in which the Man of Steel would fight a different villain from the rogues gallery of the comics. Although Luthor would be involved to certain degree for each film, he would not be the primary villain:

1. Metallo
2. Bizarro
3. Brainiac
4. Silver Banshee
5. Mr. Mxyzptlk
6. Doomsday, and thereby The Death of Superman in the finale
7. Darkseid against the resurrected Superman

(source: Answers.com)
 
Ah lets see, I've seen SR 4 times now & its grown on me each time I've seen it, BUT I would change a few things.

1. Lets go ALL the way back to the marketing of this movie. May 2005 when Revenge of the Sith opens a Superman teaser trailer will be attached. I'd probably use the same teaser theme, same music but with a little more action. Maybe him flying after the plane falling or something like that. I'd market the film more agressively.

2. I'm hiring John Williams!!!!!!!!! A big problem with SR is John Williams is missing & he's SORELY missed. The music doesn't fit well with the film & unlike the first 2 movies you're not emotionally attached because the music is lacking IMO. Singer really screwed up when he messed with the SM theme. Its like the Star Wars theme, don't mess with it!!!!!!!!!

3. I'm not going with the "Son of Superman" story line.

4. I'd make the suit & the movie a little brighter. The cape, boots & shield will be more bright red.

5. Hint at the super villian(s) that will come in the next film.

6.Cut the entire hospital scene. I thought it was a little ridiculous having Superman wheeled into a hospital. Let's get real, if Superman were to be found unconscious somewhere, he would get the Hulk treatment. The military would scoop him up, take him underground to Area 51 & they'd try to conduct all sorts of DNA tests & experiements on him to see what technology & weapons the government can create from him until he wakes up. Hey, we're humans & we do evil ***** like that when we can get away with it. He should have fallen back to Smallville in a giant cornfield where Martha finds him & he recovers at home.

7. Somehow Lex Corp should have gotten its start in SR.

8. I would have created 3 massive tidal waves for Superman to stop. Remember if Lex is creating a continent from the floor of the ocean where was the friggin tidal wave that would bury the east coast? Sure the quake was great but NK would have caused massive tidal waves destroying east coast America, west coast Africa & west coast Europe. Instead of the lame over dramatic hospital scene & bedroom scene with the kid Supes could have been stopping tidal waves headed for 3 seperate continents then thrown NK into space.
 
Metropolis_Man said:
Hey man, I'm not telling you what and what not to say, but Lazur didnt do anything to you. He just said he liked the movie, and you jumped all over him for liking a movie that you didn't. I'm not saying you're wrong for not liking it, just wrong for slamming Lazur for no good reason. Leave him alone, you're just being bothersome by not supporting your statements with good reason. Lets keep this place nice man. :) Anyone else sticking up for Lazur?

Ummm......well, a couple points I would like to bring up. One, I wasn't talking to lazur when he made his remarks toward me, therefor his actions caused my reactions. Alot of people on this board should learn that qoute well. Second, Ive already supported my statements with good reason in other threads, but again, the people on this board seem to take more to rude, ******* remarks than they do a person's well thought opinions. I learned fairly quickly that you can't have a real thought provoking talk on this board without being a dick, so Ill run with it.

Oh, and by the way, next time you talk to me, leave your pre-edit remarks so I can respond to them as well :up:
 
1 - I would like to have seen more of the people slowly accepting Superman back, as was hit upon at the end of the plane saving sequence.

2 - Less hospital scenes and less New Krypton scenes, especially when Lois and co. are trying to find Superman. Those parts dragged for me.

3 - Better opening than a text prologue. I wanted to see Krypton, not read about it.

4 - Have it to where Superman ANNOUNCED he was leaving, which would make a lot of the movie more justifiable, and we could forget the past quicker and concentrate on accepting Superman back now, if that makes sense. Have Superman address the U.N. with a speech, and steal from the speech in Superman IV if necessary with the part about the people wanting peace so much, the leaders of the world have no choice to give it to them. And he could reference his father's speech about stirring the people to leadership and not interfering with human history.
 
First I would go after one of these directors to film a Superman movie!
James Cameron
Ron Howard
Steven Spielberg
Kevin Smith

Then I would get a whole new cast... Then I would do a total restart! Have no tie in with this disaster...
 
BareKnucklez said:
First I would go after one of these directors to film a Superman movie!
James Cameron
Ron Howard
Steven Spielberg
Kevin Smith

I agree with those director except for Kevin Smith. I wouldn't trust him with anything besides a comedy.

I'd add Zemeckis to that list as well...he'd be my number 1 pick.
 

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