What Welfare Mentality Causes

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Mum of 13: I won't stop until I've had twins
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2741085/Mum-of-13-I-wont-stop-until-Ive-had-twins.html


A MUM-OF-13 who costs taxpayers £50,000 a YEAR has said she won't stop having kids until she gives birth to twins.
Baby machine Sara Foss, 39, is due to give birth to her 14TH child in April but will try to get pregnant again as soon as possible to realise her dream.

The brazen mum said today: "All I've ever wanted is twins or triplets. It's my biggest wish, and I'm going to keep trying until I do it.

"It would be fantastic. In fact, I won't stop trying until I've done it. I love having babies - it's the most wonderful thing in the world."

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Sara was 16 when she had her first baby, Patrick, in 1986 - but, traumatised by giving birth, she vowed not to have any more children.

It was a decade before she changed her mind and had a second son, Stephen - and she has almost averaged a birth a YEAR ever since.

She said: "I got over my fear of labour and just started having kids. They're all brilliant. They don't give me any bother. They're fantastic."

Her mammoth brood now comprises Patrick, 23, Stephen, 13, Malachai, 12, Peppermint, 11, Echo, 10, Eli, nine, Rogue, eight, Frodo, seven, Morpheus, five, Artemis, four, Blackbird, three, Baudelaire, two, and nine-month-old Voorhees.

All bar Patrick share a three-bedroom council house with their mother and father, Sara's long-term partner Stephen Smith, 40.

Even though Stephen works as a canal boat builder, the couple receive £4,200 in tax credits and family allowance every month.

Yet Sara, who has just run up a £5,000 bill buying her children's Christmas gifts at Toys R Us, claims they have to watch every penny.

She insisted: "I had been saving up all year so that we would have enough money to get all the presents. It was really hard work.

"We were in the shop for hours. Stephen had to do several trips home to take back what we had bought. I had blisters afterwards."

Each week the family forks out around £600 on groceries - including 32 loaves of bread, 75lb of potatoes and 126 pints of milk.

They also buy 36 rolls of toilet paper, three boxes of washing powder and eight boxes of cereal during their regular supermarket shop.

The annual school uniform bill is £2,000, and their holiday at Butlin's costs even more - mainly because they have to hire a minibus.

Sara, of Derby, begins her chores at 4am every morning and keeps the house spotlessly clean to avoid being tagged a layabout scrounger.

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She said: "If people saw us living in a pigsty they would say that we were a scrounging, low-life family who begged from the State.

"They would say I was a slapper for having so many children and that I couldn't even be bothered to keep the house looking nice.

"And that's so not true. Even when I'm straight I can't put my feet up. I've been known to take down curtains at midnight and wash them."

She added: "We have a lot of bunkbeds and cots. All the furniture in the bedrooms is on wheels so that we can move it at bedtime.

"Baudelaire sleeps in a travel cot, and a couple of the lads use an airbed. It's a squash and a squeeze, but it's cosy. It's home."

Now 20 weeks' pregnant with baby number 14, Sara is preparing to welcome the clan's latest arrival - and already planning for more.

She said: "I wanted two - that's the disappointing part of this pregnancy. But there's always next time. I'm going to keep trying, that's for sure."



Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...t-stop-until-Ive-had-twins.html#ixzz0XoC4KwFi

This is caused by the Government giving money to people that didn't earn it. this is caused by the people that empower the Government to do this.

The only cure of Poverty is to make it less comfortable to be in it. - Ben Franklin
 
This is caused by the Government giving money to people that didn't earn it. this is caused by the people that empower the Government to do this.

The only cure of Poverty is to make it less comfortable to be in it. - Ben Franklin

While I do think that welfare perpetuates lazy and unproductive lives, I do not think your logic on this one is sound. This lady just likes to have babies and has some weird fascination with having twins. This can happen anywhere, even in our own country. To emphatically state that there is a correlation between her behavior and State welfare is fallacious. You can't prove that.
 
I do believe I recall a family in Florida that's costing the tax payers 1 million a year for all those kids she gave birth and she stated on camera she doesn't have stop making babies or find a job. :rolleyes:
 
The US tends to make being poor fairly uncomfortable but there still don't seem to be any shortages of poverty stricken people there... likewise India...

The real fear is the Foss armies crossing the Atlantic, rising over Capital Hill and taking Government by force and sheer weight of numbers...
 
While I do think that welfare perpetuates lazy and unproductive lives, I do not think your logic on this one is sound. This lady just likes to have babies and has some weird fascination with having twins. This can happen anywhere, even in our own country. To emphatically state that there is a correlation between her behavior and State welfare is fallacious. You can't prove that.

She gets paid for not working and taking care of these kids. Do you think she would keep having children if she didn't paid more for each one she has? She has incentive to have more, she doesn't contribute to society, she is a drain on the tax payers of England. If she actually had to work for her money, AND take care of the kids, she has respect for the dollar (or in this case, pound) that she spends. 5000 pounds in Christmas gifts? Where did she get the money from that? Government, taxpayers and responsible people. Not from her own work.
 
Oh man this is old **** SuBe. But don't worry UK is near epic fail mode anyways. They will get what's coming to them.
 
What's coming to them?

Interesting, as you know...poor people are actually poor because they want to be.

Science Fact.
 
That's a pretty extreme case and has a lot less to do with any sort of legitimate public assistance need and a lot more to do with insanity. If she wasn't having kids at such a crazy rate they probably wouldn't need anything. They should be kicked off from welfare though-that's a pretty obscene exploitation of it.
 
She is insane because she can afford to be because she just gets paid from the public trough. If she wasn't guaranteed a paycheck for baby burping, she wouldn't have so many kids.
 
I've always said maybe they should make sterilization a part of the deal in taking welfare. But I think that might be too radical for some here.
 
I thought having alot of kids was a good thing?

Being Pro-Life means you NEED to accept all 20 kids or whatever, doesn't it?

It's just a little odd to say that she's crazy...because the government made her crazy, isn't it?
 
How about get rid of the safety net? We don't need to support people, fully capable people, who can survive all on their own.
 
Even if that means scarificing children? What do you do with children that get caught up in such a thing?

Take them away and being the "Evil Empire" or let them be and have them survive on they're own?

I think the problem is far more complex than just one woman wanting money.
 
Of course if the system is economically unsustainable, you are going to get the same outcome irregardless. At least a sustainable system has the overall pragmatic effect of taking care of more people than less.
 
Remember, the morons at the UK was selling $200-300 an ounce of gold to fund this little endeavor among many things. Canada also did something similar as well (fail). Of course gold is now $1170.
 
Doesn't matter if they're on welfare or not

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How about get rid of the safety net? We don't need to support people, fully capable people, who can survive all on their own.

If they didn't have 10 kids too many they wouldn't need it. It is a gross situation of exploiting the system. I would imagine it is also very atypical. But I agree, welfare needs to be a temporary program to help people get through a rough patch, not a regular reality of life. They have made serious improvements in it, however.
 
This will solve the problem, Darwin style.
 
Well you could take the children away from the mother then they would be...



oh wait. That still costs money.


Maybe you could limit the number of children a person ...


Oh wait. That's Communism.



Well maybe she could have an abortion. That would...


Wait that's evil.



Perhaps some form of contraception? Then she wouldn't...


Oh sorry. Evil as well.


I got nothing.


:doom: :doom: :doom:
 
Well you could take the children away from the mother then they would be...



oh wait. That still costs money.


Maybe you could limit the number of children a person ...


Oh wait. That's Communism.



Well maybe she could have an abortion. That would...


Wait that's evil.



Perhaps some form of contraception? Then she wouldn't...


Oh sorry. Evil as well.


I got nothing.


:doom: :doom: :doom:
You give them no money, problem teh solved. If you think that is not nice, it doesn't matter, you can't afford it.
 
I'm pretty sure you can get pregnant without money. Although I'm not as sure about alcohol.


:doom: :doom: :doom:
 
Abort, get screwed, or marry a beta male.
 
Sube you grasp at straws here. But you're right. If there was no welfare, there'd be no poor people in England. Or the US. Just look at the happy work force of Victorian London for proof. :oldrazz:

I somewhat agree, but the "**** you, I have mine" mentality from those at the top gets old as well.
 
This lady is probably clinically insane.

You don't change a safety net that helps millions who really need it because of a few crazy people.
 

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