The Avengers What Would Happen if Thor and Cap Bomb?

[Evil Twin]

I am not too concerned. The first Iron Man opened up the same month as Indy 4 and still made money. I think Cap and Potter are different demographics anyway.

Yeah, but Iron Man opened up several weeks before Indy 4 and already had well over $200 million in the bank when Indy 4 opened. There's a very real possibility that Captain America won't win its opening weekend. Not that it's necessarily a death knell, Sherlock Holmes did very well competing directly against Avatar, but it sure would make it harder to get attention in the marketplace.

I don't really think Potter and Cap are different demographics, simply because of how consistently large Potter's box office is. You don't do that much unless you appeal to all demographics, including the demographics that most frequently go to the movies.

But, that's life in the big leagues. There's competition out there and you have to rise to the challenge.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

@ JeetKuneDo:

yea, it's the damn truth. Cutting corners is never a good thing

try to prove to me that it is

Well...since I've been laid off for a couple of weeks I could list all the cost-cutting measures I've been taking lately.

Or would you prefer a list of movies that spent too much money and ruined any chance at a profit (or sequels)? That would be most applicable here I think. Did Waterworld really need to spend that freely?

How about an incident where a costly special effect didn't work properly and it ended up benefiting the movie? (Jaws)

 

[Original Spawn]

I´m not from america but i actually prefer captain america than thor.
I hope they don´t bomb.

 

[ElMariachi]

Yeah, but Iron Man opened up several weeks before Indy 4 and already had well over $200 million in the bank when Indy 4 opened. There's a very real possibility that Captain America won't win its opening weekend. Not that it's necessarily a death knell, Sherlock Holmes did very well competing directly against Avatar, but it sure would make it harder to get attention in the marketplace.

I don't really think Potter and Cap are different demographics, simply because of how consistently large Potter's box office is. You don't do that much unless you appeal to all demographics, including the demographics that most frequently go to the movies.

But, that's life in the big leagues. There's competition out there and you have to rise to the challenge.

Well thats true about IM/Indy but I am not concerned. Harry Potter will be huge, but I think that Cap can make money in competition with it. I sort of look at Cap like Star Trek last year going up against Wolverine, Angels and Demons, Up, Night at the Museum 2, Hangover, and Terminator Salvation. Cap also doesn't really have much competition aside from Harry Potter. The last Harry Potter movie was a big international hit, but made Iron Man 2 like numbers here in total and much of it was in it's enormous opening weekend and the following week. It was beaten in it's second weekend by G-Force (the Hamster spy movie) and then by Funny People in it's third. After that, it's Cap, Cowboys and Aliens (which may do ok), and then Smurfs--which looks like rubbish.

Green Latern might have more trouble and Thor will probally be good for at least two weeks until Pirates 4 comes out. Who knows if Hangover 2 will be as big as last year.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

The only thing I can guarantee is that the cut scenes from Thor or Cap will be BETTER than the entire Green Lantern film that gets released... and I do mean guarantee.

Really? From what I've heard and the stills so far of Green Lantern, I'm pretty confident it'll be good. I think all Cap, Thor and Green Lantern all have the potential to be the next Iron Man, I'm thinking both Thor and Green Lantern have a great chance, simply by the cast and crew behind the movie. Cap in my mind is the least likely to be a hit, it could be great, but I just don't think Joe Johnston is the right director to deliver a great Captain America movie.

Of course none of the will affect much besides the marketing for Avengers. Filming will be all but complete by the time both movies come out and I just don't see Joss Whedon being a director that will cave into studio demands. He'll deliver his story and he knows how to juggle a large cast without losing anyone in the shuffle. I don't see anyone getting the Storm or Cyclops treatment in a movie helmed by Whedon.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Yeah thats a ridiculous assumption. I think all three can be very good films next year.

 

[Tony Stark]

My only doubs about GL are Ryan Reynolds and that horrible bio-suit costume. If they stick to the comics GL could be the next big tentpole. The problem is I think they cast the wrong guy. Reynolds is a horrible actor. He may be ripped, and has a hot wife, but that doesn't make him a good actor. Having said that, he's a better choice than Jack Black.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I think Reynolds is a pretty good actor. He has great screen prescence and charisma.

 

[Tony Stark]

I think Reynolds is a pretty good actor. He has great screen prescence and charisma.

Blade Trinity
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
The Proposal

Maybe he hasn't gotten the right role, but he's been horrible in almost everything he's been in. Van Wilder was pretty funny, but the adolescent humor is a little grating after a while.

 

[Son of Coul]

He's not horrible in the things he's in, he's just in horrible things.

 

[Doctor Jones]

My only doubs about GL are Ryan Reynolds and that horrible bio-suit costume. If they stick to the comics GL could be the next big tentpole. The problem is I think they cast the wrong guy. Reynolds is a horrible actor. He may be ripped, and has a hot wife, but that doesn't make him a good actor. Having said that, he's a better choice than Jack Black.

What does sticking to the comics have to do with creating a tentpole franchise? Unless you mean using them as a guide to provide more stories? It will become a franchise if it makes alot of money from the GA and if it's good. Sticking to the comics is in the film, and it could be one of the qualities that makes it good. It al depends on the GA, who don't care what is in the comics. They just want to get what they paid for.

And you clearly haven't seen Reynolds in his more serious films. Based on your list, you are wrong.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Blade Trinity
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
The Proposal

Maybe he hasn't gotten the right role, but he's been horrible in almost everything he's been in. Van Wilder was pretty funny, but the adolescent humor is a little grating after a while.

Reynolds wasn't the problem in those films. He was fine in those films. The films were bad, but not because of Reynolds.

 

[Spider-Vader]

Blade Trinity
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
The Proposal

Maybe he hasn't gotten the right role, but he's been horrible in almost everything he's been in. Van Wilder was pretty funny, but the adolescent humor is a little grating after a while.

Ryan was the best part of Blade: Trinity & Wolverine.