The Avengers What if Thor, Captain America, and The Avengers are hits?

[Mrs. Sawyer]

The inverse of the "what if Thor and Cap bomb?" thread. With all the worry about these films because they rely on each other so much, what if Marvel hits a grand slam and Thor, Captain America, and the Avengers are all smash hits critically and financially. Many fans are rejoicing in the streets and these films make Marvel Entertainment a hot commodity.

How would this affects Marvel's film plans, especially for an Avengers sequel?

Would this help Marvel gain faith in releasing more films and introducing more solo film? If so, which characters do you think will be next?

Would this help lead more A-list directors and actors to Marvel Entertainment?

Do you think that the success will push Marvel and Disney towards trying to get their characters back from Fox and Sony?

How would DC and Warner Brothers respond?


Personally, I believe that if all 3 not only suceed, but become huge hits, Marvel will set up an Avengers sequel in 5 years instead of 3 or 4. In the meantime they release more and more solo films, gaining faith in introducing more solo character films. Maybe they expand to live-action tv too.


While I don't know about A-list directors, there is no doubt in my mind that Marvel wouldd up actors salaries to interest more A-list actors. If these films are successes, its in these actors contracts that they earn more.

While I don't know about X-men or Spiderman, I wouldn't be surprised if Disney/Marvel tries to push for getting the Fantastic Four Series or Ghost Rider. I see the former a lot more than the latter due to the Fantastic Four would be more essential to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Plus I haven't heard of any plans for Fantastic Four yet other than that they will do a reboot.

DC will try to keep up by finally bringing a live-action Justice League film in production while recasting Batman (Batman 3 is said to be Nolan's and Bale's last film). With the sucess of Thor, maybe we might see a Wonder Woman film finally going forward due to WW's grounding in Greek Mythology.

So what do you guys think? What do you believe will happen if all 3 of these films are hits?

Btw I don't wanna hear that they won't be hits or anything like that. Thats not the conversation.

 

[Son of Coul]

Yeah, pretty much everything you just said. It'd be great.

 

[Mace Dolex]

If all 3 movies become hits we can see many more sequels of each and just maybe try to wrangle Fantastic Four, Daredevil, Ghost Rider, Punisher away from their respective studios to make decent films.

The downside is that Marvel will go all ballistic and make movies of minor D-list superheroes like Ant-Man, Darkhawk, Deathlok, Man-Thing, Alpha Flight which will dampen the luster of comic book movies.

And this will put pressure on DC/WB to make a Justice League.

 

[venom892]

A.I believe we would see Iron Man 3,A Thor sequel and a Cap movie set in the modern day.Maybe another attempt at Hulk with the new actor after Avengers.
B.They would try to make movies on lesser known properties that aren't Summer movie material including Dr.Strange,Iron Fist and Luke Cage.Probably Spring or Winter releases.
c.Warner Bros will more then likely adopt a similar approach and finally make Wonder Woman and Flash movies.
4.I doubt even with sucess they'd get back X-men or Spider-man.Ghost Rider is also getting a new movie from Sony so that's gonna be out of the question too.But I can see Daredevil and Fantastic Four coming back sooner then later.

 

[Silvermoth]

I'm so glad people are being positive again. Just a couple of weeks ago people were saying "Marvel going independent was the best decision they ever made. I have full faith in them" then that unfortunate Norton business happened and its "I always knew they would fail. I hate them all. Feige is an arrogant fool". It's such a shame.

If Thor, Cap and the Avengers are all success I am going to be a very pleased panda! I shall take my friends out to the classiest McDonalds, eat whatever I want and perhaps have a commerative cake! Then we shall regale each other through wine and song about our favourite parts of the movies. Well that'll happen after every successful marvel film anyway .

As for after that well, Disney has full creative control then and I don't have faith in them so rather than bring the positiveness of the thread down I'm just going to finish my comment here t:.

 

[venom892]

At First I was apprehensive about the whole Disney deal but really I don't think much will change.They will let Marvel Studios operate in the same way Pixar does.All that will change is there will be a Disney logo before the Marvel logo.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

A.I believe we would see Iron Man 3,A Thor sequel and a Cap movie set in the modern day.Maybe another attempt at Hulk with the new actor after Avengers.
B.They would try to make movies on lesser known properties that aren't Summer movie material including Dr.Strange,Iron Fist and Luke Cage.Probably Spring or Winter releases.
c.Warner Bros will more then likely adopt a similar approach and finally make Wonder Woman and Flash movies.
4.I doubt even with sucess they'd get back X-men or Spider-man.Ghost Rider is also getting a new movie from Sony so that's gonna be out of the question too.But I can see Daredevil and Fantastic Four coming back sooner then later.

I forgot about Daredevil. I can see Daredevil also being pretty easy for Marvel get back. I don't think Fox is that interested in any of the other Marvel properties but their cash-cow X-men.

I'm so glad people are being positive again. Just a couple of weeks ago people were saying "Marvel going independent was the best decision they ever made. I have full faith in them" then that unfortunate Norton business happened and its "I always knew they would fail. I hate them all. Feige is an arrogant fool". It's such a shame.

If Thor, Cap and the Avengers are all success I am going to be a very pleased panda! I shall take my friends out to the classiest McDonalds, eat whatever I want and perhaps have a commerative cake! Then we shall regale each other through wine and song about our favourite parts of the movies. Well that'll happen after every successful marvel film anyway .

As for after that well, Disney has full creative control then and I don't have faith in them so rather than bring the positiveness of the thread down I'm just going to finish my comment here t:.

Everyone's going to be partying and celebrating if that happens. I can imagine everyone (or at least me) give people high-fives and telling people "we did it" even though I only bought the ticket haha.

I feel like this thread needed to be made to put in people's mind that all three films can be very successful. Some people have so much doubt that they struggle to believe the possibility that all of these films can be hits. I really doubt Disney will tamper with Marvel though.

 

[Spider-Vader]

Cap & Thor will become trilogies, Avengers will become a trilogy, we'll see more Marvel movies green-lit (Black Panther, Luke Cage, Iron Fist & Dr. Strange please!), DC will push forward with a JL movie & all will be right in Marvel fans' lives.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

If all 3 movies become hits we can see many more sequels of each and just maybe try to wrangle Fantastic Four, Daredevil, Ghost Rider, Punisher away from their respective studios to make decent films.

The downside is that Marvel will go all ballistic and make movies of minor D-list superheroes like Ant-Man, Darkhawk, Deathlok, Man-Thing, Alpha Flight which will dampen the luster of comic book movies.

And this will put pressure on DC/WB to make a Justice League.

I hope that it won't. I trust in Edgar Wright to make Ant-man interesting and relevant, but I'm not sure about the others. I believe that instead of turning all these heroes into films that they may eventually translate some of these heroes into television.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

At First I was apprehensive about the whole Disney deal but really I don't think much will change.They will let Marvel Studios operate in the same way Pixar does.All that will change is there will be a Disney logo before the Marvel logo.

Thats exactly what will happen. Disney won't bother their subsidiaries. It worked for Pixar and used to work for Miramax.

 

[babykhris]

After the upcoming 3 Marvel films are hits my first order of business it to begin the buy back of the rights to the Marvel characters from Sony, Fox and the other studios.

Honestly when the casual fan think of Marvel they think of the following.

Spider-Man
The X-Men
Fantastic Four
and now The Avengers

With the Avengers part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe defined I think it's time to focus on the Marvel Knights section of the MCU.

Dr. Strange is coming and maybe if we can grab Daredevil, Elektra, The Punisher, Blade and Ghost Rider.

I think Fox can't make a decent Fantastic Four film but Marvel Studios could.

 

[Silvermoth]

Thats exactly what will happen. Disney won't bother their subsidiaries. It worked for Pixar and used to work for Miramax.

Thats a bit of a different situation though. Pixar makes kids films so Disney wouldn't interfere there and Miramax recently was dismantled so we don't want that for Marvel.

 

[venom892]

I've seen this said before and it's true.Disney needs Marvel more then Marvel needed Disney.Disney has always been good with young kids and preteen girls but was sorely lacking a property to make money off boys and teens.That's why Marvel is so important to them and seeing the studio's success so far I doubt Disney will interfere.

 

[Silvermoth]

Success doesn't guarantee lack of interference. Just look at the unfortunate films that fall under the grasp of Fox. There's only one way to guarantee quality and that is with independence and care.

 

[misjuevos]

if they all hit, then maybe marvel will get back the silver surfer. then we can see some cosmic stuff.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

That's good news for future films, as mentioned. The Silver Surfer, Black Panther, and Deadpool may all happen sooner rather than later.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Success doesn't guarantee lack of interference. Just look at the unfortunate films that fall under the grasp of Fox. There's only one way to guarantee quality and that is with independence and care.

Yeah, but thats Fox. I doubt Disney really interferes with their subsidiaries that much save for Disney channel stuff.

Thats a bit of a different situation though. Pixar makes kids films so Disney wouldn't interfere there and Miramax recently was dismantled so we don't want that for Marvel.

But Marvel is a hell of a lot bigger than Miramax thats thriving rights now and I doubt Disney would ever even think of dismantling Marvel.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

if they all hit, then maybe marvel will get back the silver surfer. then we can see some cosmic stuff.

That one thing I forgot too.


Another aspect that I haven't talked about is the Cosmic part of the Marvel Universe. Which cosimic character would go first since Silver Surfer is licensed with Fox? I'm not into the cosmic part as much, but I would say Sentry or even Captain Marvel but I don't what's the deal with name rights to the name Captain Marvel and whats going on with DC and Marvel with that character name. Can anyone clear that up? Who's allowed to use the name Captain Marvel?

 

[Silvermoth]

But Marvel is a hell of a lot bigger than Miramax thats thriving rights now and I doubt Disney would ever even think of dismantling Marvel.

Then the only option left would be to interfere. Look, Disney is a corporation. To make the big bucks they focus on data like ratings, demographics etc. If it came down to following the comics or marketing to tweens who would win out? It's a business of egos and thats not good for the average comic book fan.

A good example is Rareware, the top video game system of the late '90's/early 00's. Microsoft bought it out and suddenly they've lost that sparkle. They've had to censor their games. They've lost their lead.

It's also a matter of job placement too. In the old days if Marvel wanted to make a Spider-man film they could take the property and shop it around and get the best deal possible. From 2012 onwards if Disney doesn't want it, it's gone. You can just take a look at the Warner Brothers/DC situation to see how that works out. Marvel will have to use Disney's video game publishers, writers, talent in the future. That doesn't give me alot of faith especially because Disney's video game industry is very poor.

But anyway, back on topic. I think we'll get 3 captain America films, 3 Avengers, 1 more Iron Man, 1 or two Shield films and one day, a fan base that is completely used to recasting lol. When you think about it the Captain America role for example could conceivably last for the next 12 years so I'm sure Evans would get sick of it eventually or we'll be ready for a change.

 

[misjuevos]

i just hope people are aware of the avengers movie coming up. if not then thor might do to cap what iron man did to the hulk movie. these movies are opening close to each other not to mention other stuff coming out. i just hope they get seen by the masses. maybe since people know the marvel movies are tied together they will be more inclined to see them all. i cant wait for thor

 

[venom892]

well I think Thor has a definite advantage due to being the first major movie of the summer.However this is looking like 2008 all over again.four major CB movies came out that year two did awesome and the other two just decent.I fear this may be the case next year as well.I believe X-men First Class will under perform due the franchise slowly losing steam and no wolverine in the movie.I fear Green Lantern or Captain America might under perform as well which would be a shame.

 

[topdog1]

And this will put pressure on DC/WB to make a Justice League.

And things come full circle! Comic fans know that back in the 60's the Justice League comic was selling so well that Martin Goodman told Stan Lee to create superhero teams. Then, we all won when the FF and Avengers were born. Avengers will raise the bar and follow what X-Men did back in 2000 and lead to more greatness! Everyone tries to emulate a winner.

I'm so glad people are being positive again. Just a couple of weeks ago people were saying "Marvel going independent was the best decision they ever made. I have full faith in them" then that unfortunate Norton business happened and its "I always knew they would fail. I hate them all. Feige is an arrogant fool". It's such a shame.

If Thor, Cap and the Avengers are all success I am going to be a very pleased panda! I shall take my friends out to the classiest McDonalds, eat whatever I want and perhaps have a commerative cake! Then we shall regale each other through wine and song about our favourite parts of the movies. Well that'll happen after every successful marvel film anyway .

As for after that well, Disney has full creative control then and I don't have faith in them so rather than bring the positiveness of the thread down I'm just going to finish my comment here t:.

Not to sour your Happy Meal but Disney is already in full control of Marvel's purse-strings. As long as the hits keep coming, Marvel will be free to do whatever they want creatively. When all three of these films make money (on the heels of Prince of Persia and Sorcerer's Apprentice flopping), Disney will stand back and blind back Marvel.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Thats an even better reason for Disney to never tamper with Marvel seeing as, like Pixar, they can generate millions, if not billions of dollars on their own when Disney's own films struggling.

 

[Spider-Vader]

if they all hit, then maybe marvel will get back the silver surfer. then we can see some cosmic stuff.

Nova will suffice. He's the main character in the comics right now & he's cooler than Surfer.

 

[STR1]

Sorry to say this guys but Thor won't be a "hit" at all. If the Hulk, who is more known to non-comic people, didn't do that well, imagine how Thor will do. Now Captain America MIGHT work only due to the fact that he is a "known" character to the casual non-comic related people. And that is a big Might!

But for the good of us all I hope that they do decent enough where they see profits. That way they will continue making more superhero movies.