Comics What would you like to see in the Spider-Man books in 2007?

WhatIfTales said:
1/ No more earth shattering or Marvel UNiverse will never be the same events

2/ Retcon the Other

3/ Retcon Sins Past

4/ Bring back Baby May

5/ Stop writing Norman Osborn as someone's drunk Uncle Jim

6/ Get Spidey out of the Avengers

7/ Retcon the Unmasking

8/ New Super Villains with depth and substance (In short, look at Morlun, do the complete opposite)

And in the category of "Don't want to see"

9/ Do not bring back Gwen Stacy, clone or otherwise

10/ Do not bring back Harry Osborn
i don't mind spidey bein a part of a REAL avengers [non-bendis]team but i agree COMPLETELY with the rest
 
3dman27 said:
i don't mind spidey bein a part of a REAL avengers [non-bendis]team but i agree COMPLETELY with the rest

I actually like the New Avengers and the Civil WAr tie ins have been particularly strong....I just hate the way Spider-man's written in them, ie comic relief or third stringer.....so if someone wanted to write a competent spider-man within an Avengers team I suppose I could live with it assuming it's just temporary....
 
Ben reilly and kaine come back and the search for mayday is on!
 
i'd like to see some good ol' fashioned Spidey stories. two or three issue arcs that let Spidey be Spidey and not have to worry about the rest of the Marvel U. the occassional guest appearance, but a focus on Spider-Man and his built-in supporting cast.

the past couple of years seem to have been about building up the Marvel U's mythos and complexity. i'd like some time devoted now to Spider-Man's mythos and exomplexity. don't crucify me, but stuff like "Sins Past" that deepens Spider-Man's character and his history (though, i know, that particular story doesn't fit continuity). but it'd be nice for Spider-Man to only have to worry about NYC, not the entire world or galaxy.

i'd like a good Shocker story (the first Spider-Man story i read was the issue he fought Shocker right before he found out his parents were "alive"). Hobgoblin would be nice. Tombstone would be great.

it might be a little fanboy dream, but i think it could be cool for Spider-Man to run into Darkhawk again, maybe as he fights Hobgoblin or even Portal. :woot:

but i think we're all on the same page here: less big events, more Spidey being Spidey.
 
WhatIfTales said:
1/ No more earth shattering or Marvel UNiverse will never be the same events

2/ Retcon the Other

oh, "The Other" wasn't that bad. i'm not sure where the stingers are going or what they're trying to do there, but it wasn't that bad of a story.

WhatIfTales said:
3/ Retcon Sins Past

Peter and everyone else needs to get over Gwen. whether it fit continuity or not, Sins Past was a great story about male insecurity. i really liked it.

WhatIfTales said:
4/ Bring back Baby May

this is the one retcon that bothers me. they do need to bring back baby May. (especially now that it's cool for superheroes to have children) if they want Peter and MJ to grow, let them have their child back!

WhatIfTales said:
5/ Stop writing Norman Osborn as someone's drunk Uncle Jim

i haven't noticed this. i kind of like the character Norman's grown into, being this general Lex Luthor-type mastermind.

WhatIfTales said:
6/ Get Spidey out of the Avengers

i've really enjoyed The New Avengers, but i think he should leave the team but still be a member of it, even it's just "honorary."

WhatIfTales said:
7/ Retcon the Unmasking

No! there's a lot of potential here! to retcon it would really just make Civil War all that more sensational and unsubstantial.

WhatIfTales said:
8/ New Super Villains with depth and substance (In short, look at Morlun, do the complete opposite)

And in the category of "Don't want to see"

9/ Do not bring back Gwen Stacy, clone or otherwise

10/ Do not bring back Harry Osborn

i pretty much agree with everything else . . . though i would like to see Harry at least be addressed. i want to know why he isn't alive and Norman is (other than the "crappy story telling" reason i'm usually given).
 
I simply want some good CHARACTER-based story-telling and a strong supporting cast. Right now, we have an EVENT-based style of storytelling with a supporting cast consisting of Aunt May and Mary Jane. That's it. Lame.

I also want to read a solicit for a new arc for Amazing Spider-Man that doesn't feature the phrase: "NOTHING will be the same".

Give me the following:

1- Peter as a hero...and a somewhat capable warrior who doesn't get his ass kicked EVERY SINGLE TIME. Also, hav ehim use that big brain he was once so well-known for.

2- Bring back the Daily Bugle!! Peter working there is cool, but I also like him as a teacher. I just want some interaction with these people who are supposed to be so important in Peter's life.

3- KEEP MJ and AUNT MAY. They are Peter's family...all that he has left, and they should be kept alive int he series. Killing someone off to "keep it fresh" is stupid.

4- REPSECT THE CONTINUITY. We've had to deal with so much stupidity lately simply because writers seem to enjoy throwing in stories that took place in the past, as opposed to moving forward. Enough is enough.

5- Make the stories FUN again!! I remember when Peter trying to get to a social event of some sort while fighitng a super-villian was the most enjoyable thing in the world! Anyone else remember when we didn't have any "Drastic changes to the status quo" and the stories were FAR better than they have been since we've had to endure all this "change"? I do.

6- Make me care. I look at the titles on the racks, and I could care less whether I buy them or not. With the Exception of Sensational Spider-Man, the books leave me cold....Ultimate included. I've been reading the books since 1991, and this is the first time I haven't cared about what happens to Peter Parker. EVER.

7- Dan Slott. I want him on a Spider-Man book that is IN continuity and NOT subject to change by or interference by catastrophic crossovers or Joey Q's asanine whims. Give this man a stellar penciller and some freedom, and I'll bet we'd see a new golden age.

8- Retcon the unmasking. The stories that can come out of it are extremely limitted. We can endure 3 years of storylines before it is recognized as a mistake and retconned, or we can just end it now. I'm for now.

9- GREAT artists. We've got Weiringo, whose work I love, but why don't we have the Micheal Turners and the Jim Lees and the Joe Mads and the other superstar artists lining up to draw Spider-Man?! It's ridiculous!!

10- I want some villians. NOt even necesarily NEW villians. I just want the bad guys back. We get a look at them in FNSM (which sucks), and we get some good storied with them in SSM (which rules), but when did we last see a big-name villian in ASM in a story that really kicked ass?! When was the last big Spidey throw-down that left our jaws hanging open and had us all saying "HELL YEAH" ? I can't even remember. Ultimate Spidey comes closert than any of the Spider-titles have in awhile. Bring 'em on.

Those are my ten.
 
6/ Get Spidey out of the Avengers

Well, technically, isn't Spider-Man off the Avengers? :huh:

Considering the entire universe is in a Civil War there really isn't much of an Avengers going on right now. I figured Spidey's days as an Avenger are pretty much numbered, unless he's still set to be a part of the second Avengers team.

I would figure after this craziness with Civil War that Spidey would stray away from being on a team and fly solo again.
 
RAMORE said:
Ben reilly and kaine come back and the search for mayday is on!

Thats a very bad joke you just made. Although, I'd like to see Kaine again but his degenerate ass should've rotted by now.
 
shinlyle said:
2- Bring back the Daily Bugle!! Peter working there is cool, but I also like him as a teacher. I just want some interaction with these people who are supposed to be so important in Peter's life.

I must be 1 of the few that wasn't impressed with the whole Peter is now a teacher concept. I woul have preferd it if he were going to teach it would only be as a supply teacher once in a while. It would have still been something fresh if slightly but allow us to focus more and expand upon the established supporting cast who could really do with a rigorous fleshing out.
 
SpideyInATree said:
Well, technically, isn't Spider-Man off the Avengers? :huh:

Considering the entire universe is in a Civil War there really isn't much of an Avengers going on right now. I figured Spidey's days as an Avenger are pretty much numbered, unless he's still set to be a part of the second Avengers team.

I would figure after this craziness with Civil War that Spidey would stray away from being on a team and fly solo again.

Technically for the Civil War story yes he's off the Avengers....but so is Captain America and we all know he'll eventually make his way back after the aftermath of Civil War....so to be more specific....I want Spidey to burn all bridges with the Avengers.....will he stray away after the Civil War?.....hopefully....but New Avengers sells well so Marvel may take the "if it aint broke don't fix it" mind set .....
 
umm.. . no ben reilly. ben reilly sucked and hes dead. dead. just. dead.
thanks.
 
Well I was going to say Ben Reilly, but since the poster above me made such a compelling argument against that :o I'll say, more real supervillians, less JMS crap. Seriously, you want a villian with life sucking power? Bring in Morbius, not Morlun.

Also, get a new writer on ASM, keep Garney, but ditch JMS. He's not good enough to be doing the Claremont thing.

Finally no more "life changing" storylines, its a running joke around here and we all make fun of the diamond solicitations that come out each month. Seriously we've had 10 "and will change the life of Peter Parker, forever!" this past year, its not effective if it happens every month!
 
Citizen_Kaine said:
Well I was going to say Ben Reilly, but since the poster above me made such a compelling argument against that :o I'll say, more real supervillians, less JMS crap. Seriously, you want a villian with life sucking power? Bring in Morbius, not Morlun.

Also, get a new writer on ASM, keep Garney, but ditch JMS. He's not good enough to be doing the Claremont thing.

Finally no more "life changing" storylines, its a running joke around here and we all make fun of the diamond solicitations that come out each month. Seriously we've had 10 "and will change the life of Peter Parker, forever!" this past year, its not effective if it happens every month!
damn straight
 
Okay, here's what I'd like to see (in no particular order):

1. Peter regains his secret identity. I have do doubt this will happen, especially since every unmasking story has emphasized Peter made a mistake by revealing his identity, because having him have an alias of Ben Reilly for a civilain life--while a nice nod and logical under the circumstances--will be too confusing in the long run, and also ever since the unmasking, his spider-sense--one of his most unique powers--is on the fritz because everything is a potential threat now. No way that can be long term.

2. A finish, wrap-up, retconning of the new-age, mystical spider-totem crap--AND NEVER MENTION IT EVER AGAIN. This idea ran it's course long ago and should've ended back in the Book of Ezekiel, but Marvel in it's "widsom" decided to bring all back up again. Once JMS leaves, the whole concept should go with him.

3. Spidey no longer has the Wolverine-esque bone spears, a.k.a. the stingers. Absolutely unnecessary ability when you consider that his fists can do just as effective a job and that we don't need Marvel's flagship character ripping off ANOTHER flagship character.

4. The spider-marriage intact. And certainly not having it end by having MJ die, lose her memory, wind up in a coma, or Spidey sleeping with the Black Cat to get over his funk due to the previous three. And speaking of funk...

5. How about some humor back in the books? Remember when they were actually funny and yet could also manage to be dramatic at the same time?

6. Bring back the Bugle. Considering how one of the best parts of the movies was J. Jonah Jameson, I have yet to understand why Marvel--and especially in Ultimate--has capitalized on this and made more use of his character in the past four years? In fact, start using more of the supporting cast? At least Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man is doing that and realizing that Peter's life isn't limited to just MJ and Aunt May.

7. Spider-Man: The End. And no, Reign doesn't--or shouldn't--count. I want Spider-Man: The End along the same level of quality as The Incredible Hulk: The End, with John Romita Sr. or John Romita Jr. on pencils and doing the writing chores--Roger Stern, Tom DeFlaco, or Stan Lee himself.

8. An answer to what those six junction points were mentioned in Jumping the Tracks? We know that Uncle Ben's death was one and Gwen's death was another. What are the other four? And speaking of time travel...

9. No more evil Uncle Ben clones from a parallel universe. No more undead Mysterio, servant of Hell. No more mystical totemistic orgins. No more hanging out eating hot dogs with Loki. No more fighting supernatural villains. Just keep Spidey's adventures to street-level dust-ups with some kooky sci-fi thrown in, although certainly not on the level as say Fantastic Four or Silver Surfer. And finally...

10. Him once again being a solo superhero. Or, if he has to be part of an Avengers team, it shouldn't be where other superheroes become his supporting cast in his flagship title.
 
stillanerd said:
Okay, here's what I'd like to see (in no particular order):

1. Peter regains his secret identity. I have do doubt this will happen, especially since every unmasking story has emphasized Peter made a mistake by revealing his identity, because having him have an alias of Ben Reilly for a civilain life--while a nice nod and logical under the circumstances--will be too confusing in the long run, and also ever since the unmasking, his spider-sense--one of his most unique powers--is on the fritz because everything is a potential threat now. No way that can be long term.

2. A finish, wrap-up, retconning of the new-age, mystical spider-totem crap--AND NEVER MENTION IT EVER AGAIN. This idea ran it's course long ago and should've ended back in the Book of Ezekiel, but Marvel in it's "widsom" decided to bring all back up again. Once JMS leaves, the whole concept should go with him.

3. Spidey no longer has the Wolverine-esque bone spears, a.k.a. the stingers. Absolutely unnecessary ability when you consider that his fists can do just as effective a job and that we don't need Marvel's flagship character ripping off ANOTHER flagship character.

4. The spider-marriage intact. And certainly not having it end by having MJ die, lose her memory, wind up in a coma, or Spidey sleeping with the Black Cat to get over his funk due to the previous three. And speaking of funk...

5. How about some humor back in the books? Remember when they were actually funny and yet could also manage to be dramatic at the same time?

6. Bring back the Bugle. Considering how one of the best parts of the movies was J. Jonah Jameson, I have yet to understand why Marvel--and especially in Ultimate--has capitalized on this and made more use of his character in the past four years? In fact, start using more of the supporting cast? At least Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man is doing that and realizing that Peter's life isn't limited to just MJ and Aunt May.

7. Spider-Man: The End. And no, Reign doesn't--or shouldn't--count. I want Spider-Man: The End along the same level of quality as The Incredible Hulk: The End, with John Romita Sr. or John Romita Jr. on pencils and doing the writing chores--Roger Stern, Tom DeFlaco, or Stan Lee himself.

8. An answer to what those six junction points were mentioned in Jumping the Tracks? We know that Uncle Ben's death was one and Gwen's death was another. What are the other four? And speaking of time travel...

9. No more evil Uncle Ben clones from a parallel universe. No more undead Mysterio, servant of Hell. No more mystical totemistic orgins. No more hanging out eating hot dogs with Loki. No more fighting supernatural villains. Just keep Spidey's adventures to street-level dust-ups with some kooky sci-fi thrown in, although certainly not on the level as say Fantastic Four or Silver Surfer. And finally...

10. Him once again being a solo superhero. Or, if he has to be part of an Avengers team, it shouldn't be where other superheroes become his supporting cast in his flagship title.

I actually thought the Loki/hotdog moment was pretty cool.
 
I just want Spider-Man to be fun again. I want his foundations to remain unshaken, his powers to remain un****ed-with, his supporting cast to return to him, and his outfit to not be some robot thing Tony Stark made.

I'm tired of having major storylines shake him up every half a year. What's so wrong with having a Spider-Man who's simply a fun, lighthearted read?
 
CaptainStacy said:
I actually thought the Loki/hotdog moment was pretty cool.

Well, if it happened in Marvel Team-Up, those kind of things are allowable. But considering how it was part of a pattern of JMS to have every other story have Spidey involved with supernatural and mystical event--i.e. totems--it just seemed out of place. Not that this stuff can't happen in Spider-Man comics from time to time, but they shouldn't be the norm.
 
Cyclops said:
I just want Spider-Man to be fun again. I want his foundations to remain unshaken, his powers to remain un****ed-with, his supporting cast to return to him, and his outfit to not be some robot thing Tony Stark made.

I'm tired of having major storylines shake him up every half a year. What's so wrong with having a Spider-Man who's simply a fun, lighthearted read?
AMEN TO THAT:spidey:
 
Citizen_Kaine said:
keep Garney, but ditch JMS.

Keep Garney?, ugh no thanx he is lame.

With any luck the Loeb/JSC will be on ASM next year.
 
Dope Nose said:
even though they don't make sense?
I, personally think the new powers make perfest sense. Well, all of them except for the stingers. I also like the totem idea. I think it is a way for the character to grow. I think some people hate it because it is new and different.
 

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