Which Green Lantern should be used? - Part 2

[HighFivingMF]

If being attached to a harness in front of a green screen for a scene bugged him so much why would he want star in an entire movie as a guy who flies in space?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

If being attached to a harness in front of a green screen for a scene bugged him so much why would he want star in an entire movie as a guy who flies in space?

Exactly.

 

[brainchild81]

Once again you have no idea wtf you're talking about

Lol at the idea that you knew GL 2011 would fail if Hal was used . Whatta joke . If anything it would've failed harder with John because he has such lame material to draw from.

Kirk is more well known than Hal but Hal is a character along the lines of Han or Kirk. That's true.

Once again you only talk about the General audience. Your arguments are baseless once again.

The facts are clear

Hal has better stories and better villains and he is simply a stronger character than John. Hal simply has more potential for a movie series

Without question the center of the GL universe is Sinestro and Hals antagonistic relationship. To avoid that would be a waste


A solo John movie is a horrible idea tht really shouldn't be entertained unless he steals some of Hals stories and relationships

John is such a weak character that he has to steal a better character's storylines and relationships in order to create a decent and cohesive storyline for a movie

He didn't steal anything from Hal on JL/JLU and he was more popular than Hal's ever been. Hire writers w/talent who give a damn and magic will happen again. They would have actually had to try very hard at making a bad film to make a worse movie than what we got w/Hal. I'm gonna continue to talk about the GA because the movie can't be a success without their support. It can be without yours or mine.

I saw failure coming as soon as I heard it was Hal. I posted in the Summer 2011 box office predictions thread IIRC. I went farther into it on another forum. Others saw failure coming as well. It seemed pretty obvious to me. You think a John movie would have failed worse and you have a right to.....buuuut you just finished saying you thought Hal's movie would dominate( lol That's adorable ). This doesn't inspire confidence in your GL success forecasting abilities, son.

Also with all due respect, your opinion of John's popularity is based soley on your love of the JL 'toon. Not only did that show eventually marginalize John after 2 seasons, but it rarely tapped into the GL mythos. That version of John was thinly-written and would never work as part of live action.

Over the last 5 years, Hal has only become more solidified as the centerpiece of the Lanternverse. Anyone who has seen JL-Doom, JL: The FLashpoint Paradox, JL:War, The Green Lantern Animated Series, The Lego movie or the upcoming Throne of Atlantis will have been/will be seeing Hal as GL yet again. The fact (and it is indeed a fact) is that the combined non-print appearances of John, Kyle, Guy, and Alan don't even come close to the appearances of Hal. You don't have to take my word, just look it up

Won't be necessary. I agree that Hal's had waaaaay more non-print appearances than the other lanterns. They just didn't amount to much because people still asked why they made GL white when his movie was coming out. JL/JLU still trumps ALL of these appearances in terms of longevity, critical acclaim, and popularity + John was arguably the star of the show. We are having this very discussion(one that comes up damn near everytime a GL film is discussed) because of that show. It's certainly not because of DC pushing him in the comics.

JL:War is post reboot Hal, and I agree about him being the worst thing in that movie.

Hal is definitely not more iconic than Kirk, I agree with this.
Onion TV exaggerate, it's over the top comedy made for some laughs.

I agree that comedy is the goal, but Hal is far from being A-list when it comes to the GA. Hal's high annoyance factor in the new 52 doesn't inspire confidence in a movie that seems set to be based on the new 52

 

[Lantern Venom]

He didn't steal anything from Hal on JL/JLU and he was more popular than Hal's ever been.

. I agree that Hal's had waaaaay more non-print appearances than the other lanterns. They just didn't amount to much because people still asked why they made GL white when his movie was coming out. JL/JLU still trumps ALL of these appearances in terms of longevity, critical acclaim, and popularity + John was arguably the star of the show.

I'm sorry, but this is nothing but anecdotal evidence. I've never once heard the silly question of "why is GL white?". Not only would that person have to be completely oblivious to DC and comics in general, but he/she would also have to be incapable of doing a simple web search. Where did you encounter people with that degree of isolation from the world?

Moreover, your opinion of JL trumping the GL mythos is just your perception. There are also fans who are just as passionate about the GLTAS and have launched petitions to get it restarted. The JL toon is 8 years in the past and John's simplistic characterization on that show (and his marginalization after season 2) didn't do him justice at all.

Geoff Johns's Green Lantern took the mythos to levels of popularity that the character had never seen. Not only did comic sales go through the roof, but Green Lantern got a live-action movie, two titular DVD movies, and a titular cartoon. That's hard evidence of the GL mythos being more popular than it ever was with the general public, and Johns's departure in late 2012 has been central in the character's cooling off in popularity.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Once again, you are completely correct on all accounts Lantern Venom

 

[Spider-Aziz]

The reason John was used in the JL show is because he stayed longer than Kyle did as a Green Lantern, not a jerk, and he was alive.
Beside the possible racial diversity.

They almost always change a characters personality adapting them to film, or take aspects that work, and you see them in some runs but not in others. The only one beside Superman who probably did not get personality changed on film is Batman, if you don't count the Burton films.
So I don't mind some changes in Hal's personality from pages to film, or giving him some aspects from the other 3 Green Lanterns of Earth (minus the extra hot headed attitude of Guy)

 

[John-An]

http://ca.ign.com/videos/2014/11/04...ange-but-is-open-to-comic-roles?+main+twitter

What would you think of McConaughey as Hal?

 

[Rorschach2012]

I 100% support McConaugHal

 

[Brian Braddock]

I like Reynolds but I like MM even more. If DC were able to get him as Hal it would be awesome. EDIT: Just had a thought - I havent seen MM's name brought up too many times on here previously when talking about casting Hal - is he now just being suggested because of Interstellar, the same way that people are suggesting Jake Gyllenhall as Strange [as opposed to Cumberbatch] because Nightcrawler is currently doing the rounds?

 

[Rorschach2012]

I've been feeling McConaughey as Hal for a while but ya Interstellar is what makes it so easy to imagine
I think McConuaghey or Aaron Paul would be my favorite options

 

[regwec]

I like MM in the right kind of role, but I find it very difficult to imagine him as Hal. They just don't seem to be moulded from the same mud.

 

[HighFivingMF]

I like Reynolds but I like MM even more. If DC were able to get him as Hal it would be awesome. EDIT: Just had a thought - I havent seen MM's name brought up too many times on here previously when talking about casting Hal - is he now just being suggested because of Interstellar, the same way that people are suggesting Jake Gyllenhall as Strange [as opposed to Cumberbatch] because Nightcrawler is currently doing the rounds?

I've heard it a few times, mostly around when he started making his comeback with True Detective and a lot of the people on here started taking him seriously again and looking back.

 

[Rorschach2012]

 

[Lantern Venom]

Oh...my...goodness. I never realized the resemblance was that strong. Great finds, Schach.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I support MM for Hal. Not sure if he would want to do a CBM though, now that he's a serious actor.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I support MM for Hal. Not sure if he would want to do a CBM though, now that he's a serious actor.

He recently said that a comic book movie is something he'd be open to

 

[brainchild81]

I think he's too big of a name right now to take the job.

I'm sorry, but this is nothing but anecdotal evidence. I've never once heard the silly question of "why is GL white?". Not only would that person have to be completely oblivious to DC and comics in general, but he/she would also have to be incapable of doing a simple web search. Where did you encounter people with that degree of isolation from the world?

Despite what you think, GL isn't some pop culture phenomenon that the whole world loves & cares about. This may speak to you being isolated from the world moreso than these people I encountered. If you look around the internet you may find some stuff that surprises you.

Moreover, your opinion of JL trumping the GL mythos is just your perception. There are also fans who are just as passionate about the GLTAS and have launched petitions to get it restarted. The JL toon is 8 years in the past and John's simplistic characterization on that show (and his marginalization after season 2) didn't do him justice at all.

Geoff Johns's Green Lantern took the mythos to levels of popularity that the character had never seen. Not only did comic sales go through the roof, but Green Lantern got a live-action movie, two titular DVD movies, and a titular cartoon. That's hard evidence of the GL mythos being more popular than it ever was with the general public, and Johns's departure in late 2012 has been central in the character's cooling off in popularity.

ALL of our opinions are our perceptions, aren't they? The DVDs, failed movie, all those unsold action figures, &quickly canceled cartoon are evidence that WB wanted Hal to be popular w/the GA, not that he is. JL was created in the past, but it's still popular on Netflix(I didn't see HAl's show in that category) was being shown with good ratings on Vortexx when it existed & is sold OnDemand by Xfinity...in the present. Let's not pretend that Hal's show means anywhere near as much as JL/JLU does. JL/JLU got multiple seasons whereas Hal's show was slated for the axe well before the final episode aired for it's 1st and only season. The petition to bring it back will continue to fail.

They've left Hal out of JL:Trapped in Time & Batman Be-leagured. Hopefully this is a sign that he's being put on the back burner due to the fact that he's not a crucial element.

The show did more to make John popular than the people running DC ever did. Whether they did him justice or not is debatable & you may be right on that, but all that matters to me is that it was a major boost to John's popularity

 

[CaptainWagner]

I think he's too big of a name right now to take the job.

Despite what you think, GL isn't some pop culture phenomenon that the whole world loves & cares about. This may speak to you being isolated from the world moreso than these people I encountered. If you look around the internet you may find some stuff that surprises you.
ALL of our opinions are our perceptions, aren't they? The DVDs, failed movie, all those unsold action figures, &quickly canceled cartoon are evidence that WB wanted Hal to be popular w/the GA, not that he is. JL was created in the past, but it's still popular on Netflix(I didn't see HAl's show in that category) was being shown with good ratings on Vortexx when it existed & is sold OnDemand by Xfinity...in the present. Let's not pretend that Hal's show means anywhere near as much as JL/JLU does. JL/JLU got multiple seasons whereas Hal's show was slated for the axe well before the final episode aired for it's 1st and only season. The petition to bring it back will continue to fail.

They've left Hal out of JL:Trapped in Time & Batman Be-leagured. Hopefully this is a sign that he's being put on the back burner due to the fact that he's not a crucial element.

The show did more to make John popular than the people running DC ever did. Whether they did him justice or not is debatable & you may be right on that, but all that matters to me is that it was a major boost to John's popularity

If I recall correctly, the show wasn't canceled because it wasn't popular, it was canceled because it was popular with the "wrong" demographics, much like Young Justice and The Clone Wars.

 

[Lantern Venom]

If I recall correctly, the show wasn't canceled because it wasn't popular, it was canceled because it was popular with the "wrong" demographics, much like Young Justice and The Clone Wars.

Not only did the show get good ratings and a couple of award nominations, it was slated for some big things in season 2. There is some concept art for Razer as a Blue Lantern online, Giancarlo Volpe confirmed that the show would have eventually introduced John and Kyle, and there were seeds set for a Blackest Night storyline.

According to Josh Keaton, all of that ended because of confusion over the GL movie toys and the animated series toys. I wouldn't have guessed that something so bizarre and unrelated to ratings could end a popular series.

 

[Rorschach2012]

The comics are going to reflect the movies a bit. If there was an intention to make John the movie Green Lantern, there would be a move to establish John as THE Green Lantern in the comics. Instead, Hal is unquestionably THE Green Lantern in the comics, he's a founding member of the Justice League.

The movie lineup will reflect the New 52.

 

[Pickleweasel]

I think he's too big of a name right now to take the job.

Despite what you think, GL isn't some pop culture phenomenon that the whole world loves & cares about. This may speak to you being isolated from the world moreso than these people I encountered. If you look around the internet you may find some stuff that surprises you.
ALL of our opinions are our perceptions, aren't they? The DVDs, failed movie, all those unsold action figures, &quickly canceled cartoon are evidence that WB wanted Hal to be popular w/the GA, not that he is. JL was created in the past, but it's still popular on Netflix(I didn't see HAl's show in that category) was being shown with good ratings on Vortexx when it existed & is sold OnDemand by Xfinity...in the present. Let's not pretend that Hal's show means anywhere near as much as JL/JLU does. JL/JLU got multiple seasons whereas Hal's show was slated for the axe well before the final episode aired for it's 1st and only season. The petition to bring it back will continue to fail.

They've left Hal out of JL:Trapped in Time & Batman Be-leagured. Hopefully this is a sign that he's being put on the back burner due to the fact that he's not a crucial element.

The show did more to make John popular than the people running DC ever did. Whether they did him justice or not is debatable & you may be right on that, but all that matters to me is that it was a major boost to John's popularity

What do you mean the DVDs? I assume your talking about the animated movies? Both did well. The GL animated series was canceled because of the movie and the toys. The only GL thing that wasn't successful was the movie, and I guess the lack of toy selling.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Oh...my...goodness. I never realized the resemblance was that strong. Great finds, Schach.

Thanks dude! yeah i agree, the resemblance is uncanny

i've got my fingers crossed!

It's going to be Hal, but who knows how old he is going to be. There may be a big age gap or they may go with someone Ezra's age. Personally, i'm hoping for an older Hal, the character works best when he's an older guy imo.

JS fans-
what is the seminal JS story that should provide inspiration for a solo JS movie?

 

[Jplaya2023]

It should be John Steward played by Idris Elba since that's the GL we're going to use for JLA

 

[harryoscop]

He's kinda too old... hate to sound like a broken record..

 

[Rorschach2012]

It should be John Steward played by Idris Elba since that's the GL we're going to use for JLA

There's literally no reason to assume that. All signs are leading to Hal. John would play a bigger role in the comics if he was going to be in the movies

He's kinda too old... hate to sound like a broken record..

i disagree.

Hal works as an older guy, i've always seen Hal as one of the older members of the JL. Also he doesn't necessarily need to be the same age as Barry. Hal being closer in age to Aquaman or Batman works for me