Which is the worst? X-Men 3, Fantastic Four, or Daredevil?

[DACrowe]

FF is easily the worst of the three (and DD the director's cut is easily the strongest, though I doubt anyone would put it in their top 5 comic movies), but X3 is THE MOST DISAPPOINTING.

FF looked bad and it was bad and it is just a failed attempt at launching a franchise. The X-Men had already been successfully launched and DONE RIGHT FOR TWO FILMS. In fact it became very clear at the end of the second that the director was writing a giant story arc to cover a trilogy and characters like Cyclops and Rogue were building to something.

And then it is all thrown out the window for a ****ty action movie with cool SFX. While not nearly as bad a movie as FF it is far more heart wrenching because everytime you watch the end of X2 you're going to wonder what could've been.

Oh well.

 

[Darthphere]

FF is easily the worst of the three (and DD the director's cut is easily the strongest, though I doubt anyone would put it in their top 5 comic movies), but X3 is THE MOST DISAPPOINTING.

FF looked bad and it was bad and it is just a failed attempt at launching a franchise. The X-Men had already been successfully launched and DONE RIGHT FOR TWO FILMS. In fact it became very clear at the end of the second that the director was writing a giant story arc to cover a trilogy and characters like Cyclops and Rogue were building to something.

And then it is all thrown out the window for a ****ty action movie with cool SFX. While not nearly as bad a movie as FF it is far more heart wrenching because everytime you watch the end of X2 you're going to wonder what could've been.

Oh well.

You seem to be using that a lot. You coming to terms?

 

[jaydawg]

Singer wasnt going to do **** with Cyclops. Please tell me what he was planning, because best guesses would be even less than what Ratner did with him in X3. Stormyprecious was 100% dead on. And before everyone says Singer was so great, let me remind you all he was going to cast Sigourney Weaver as Emma Frost, who may I all remind you, is supposed to be the most beautiful x-man ever. The man never understood the material half as well as Ratner.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Of course, in order to properly build character archs, you need to give a fying **** about the characters first, but oh well.

I can see more complex archs down at Mc'Donalds than in a Bryan Singer movie.

 

[Kable24]

I like all three but FF was definitely the weakest one. X-Men 3 was fantastic!!

 

[The Dark Defender]

And before everyone says Singer was so great, let me remind you all he was going to cast Sigourney Weaver as Emma Frost, who may I all remind you, is supposed to be the most beautiful x-man ever. The man never understood the material half as well as Ratner.

Cripes! His hackneyed piece of **** X-Men movies where he had great source material to work with but couldn't even put anything close to mediocrity on the screen, claiming Caviezel doesn't have the acting chops for Superman(yet Routhman does, who looks almost as wooden as Ashmore's Iceman, another brilliant casting decision by that incompetent hack), and now Weaver as Emma Frost?!

My God, everytime I think I couldn't possibly have less respect for this guy's work, he not only reaches the bottom of the barrell, he tunnells a hole into the ground and crawls into it like a ****ing goefer!

Singer lengthens his lead as my most detested filmmaker in mainstream Hollywood today with every new thing I hear about him.

I shouldn't even call him an incompetent hack, because that's insulting to incompetent hacks.

Singer should make a movie with Uwe Boll, their "styles" would gel together perfectly. The only real difference between the two is that Boll isn't met with alot of undeserved praise.

Superman Returns might as well be subtitled "Singer Strikes Again."

 

[The Question]

How did Wolverine find Magneto's camp when no one else knew where it was?

Jean was subconsciously calling him. Remember when he was freaking out and hearing her voice in the graveyard?

"I'm the Juggernaught *****!", I can't believe they threw in that stupid Internet joke.

......you mean that amazing internet joke, right?

Another thing about X-Men 3.



BIG SPOILERS!!!



Rogue. She decided to take the cure?? That's a great message to send to kids, isn't it?? The X-Men is supposed to teach understanding and tolerance. It isn't about saying "yeah, it's fine to be a mutant, but like, maybe ya should become normal!". It's sending out the wrong message. The cure is sort of a metaphor for "if you were black, and you could become white, would you do it?". The answer should be... "yeah, sometimes it's hard being black, but I shouldn't have to become white. I'm proud of who I am."

Ummm, it had absolutely nothing to do with Rogue wanting to conform. She couldn't touch anyone without putting them into a coma. I doubt that's something anyone would want to live with.



Anyway, Fantastic Four by far and large.

 

[The Dark Defender]

The man never understood the material half as well as Ratner.

There isn't much he does understand how to do, other than **** things up royally and point the camera and shoot whatever's right in front of him without an ounce of style, imagination, or anything to remotely improve the film like the utterly talentless excuse for a filmmaker that he is.

The reason ROTK is my favorite film is because of how much I grew to love the ensamble of characters from the first two going into it. It was a culminative achievement, thus had 3x the impact. The problem with the X-Men trilogy is that Singer did such an abhorrent job characterizing people in the first two that I was just now starting to give a **** in X3, 3 films in. There was nothing to culminate. Under the circumstances, one huge wasteland of **** layed before Rattner, and he did a fairly good job of cleaning up so I finally got to see an X-Men film that was actually good, or anything even close to it.

Thank God Singer went off to go **** up a different franchise this time and left this one to someone that has a spec of talent.

The Anti-Christ of cinema has a movie coming out soon, and it has nothing to do with The Omen.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

Gee what a surprise.

and isn't this in the wrong forum?

 

[jaydawg]

Wow. Someone has an axe to grind. While I'm not saying Singer is a bad filmmaker, I do agree with you to a point in the aspect that I'm not a fan of the majority of his films. It's like I've always said, The Usual Suspects wasnt so great because of Singer, it was because of the incredible script.

Basically, Singer never understood the characters. He started not knowing about the X-men, he ended knowing slightly more.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Wow. Someone has an axe to grind.

After how horrendously he handled (I should say mis-handled) source material that I adored with his idea of good X-Men movies, toppled with an ongoing list of other reasons that seemingly never stops growing, you have no idea.

It's like I've always said, The Usual Suspects wasnt so great because of Singer, it was because of the incredible script.

I've heard that many times, from alot of that liked the movie and still weren't impressed with his dirction. I'm not saying he's a bad filmmaker either, he makes them look brilliant.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Gee what a surprise.

and isn't this in the wrong forum?

Not really, since it's about 3 totally different franchises.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

Not really, since it's about 3 totally different franchises.

no i meant wouldn't it belong in the marvel movie thread.

 

[Kmack]

Fantastic Four

 

[DorkyFresh]

my best to worst:

x-men 3. it has the most heart out of the 3. it definitely has the best effects and it certainly had the best action. it's one of the better comic book movies.

daredevil. if i turn my brain off i can enjoy this movie. it has some cool effects (and some bad ones) and i kinda dug it, but it's one of the lesser comic films of late.

fantastic four. boy was this a crappy flick. they got their powers and costumes right, but that's about it. this movie had a poor script. poor editing. i saw a lot of bad effects (along with some awesome ones) and it just was TOO stupid for me to follow.......even after turning my brain off. easily the worst comic book movie since 2000.

 

[A.J.Rimmer(BSC)]

my best to worst:

x-men 3. it has the most heart out of the 3. it definitely has the best effects and it certainly had the best action. it's one of the better comic book movies.

daredevil. if i turn my brain off i can enjoy this movie. it has some cool effects (and some bad ones) and i kinda dug it, but it's one of the lesser comic films of late.

fantastic four. boy was this a crappy flick. they got their powers and costumes right, but that's about it. this movie had a poor script. poor editing. i saw a lot of bad effects (along with some awesome ones) and it just was TOO stupid for me to follow.......even after turning my brain off. easily the worst comic book movie since 2000.

I agree with that....

I agree with everything on the latter half of this thread, althought Singer isn't THAT bad, he made the films for Joe public, not X-fans remember.

The only problem that Ratner had was that he made the film with the fans in mind, but had to remain consistent to Singers world. Just remember, we didn't see Cyke die, and FOX would be stupid to not do another sequel.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

im not sure i see your point........

all i see is nitpicking

Then you're not looking.
Would it be nit-picking if they left the pointy ears off of Batman?
Would it be nit-picking if Superman didn't have an S on his chest?
Would it be nit-picking if Wolverine didn't have claws?

 

[The Kid]

hell hath no fury like a fanboy scorned.

X3 because multiple man joins the brotherhood on a whim and is suddenly so loyal to magneto that he's willing to be caught by the government again. stupid. the whole things smells of 'rushed and not well thought out." booo

so x3's the worst.

 

[The Question]

Just because of that it's worse than the crap that was Fantastic Four? Wow. That is damn nit picky. You realize that Madrox could easily have over powered those troops and escaped, right?

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

how does multiple man's powers work, does he create clones or projections of himself

is there like an original and a batch of clones, are they repllications of the real one?

do they share like body warmth or what?

 

[The Question]

I'm not sure. A bunch of possible explanations have been suggested. Some say he splits himself like an ameba and has a psychic link to the new ones. But then, that doesn't explain their disapearing. I think he just makes clones of himself.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

It's kind of like the Christian Trinity.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

I'm not sure. A bunch of possible explanations have been suggested. Some say he splits himself like an ameba and has a psychic link to the new ones. But then, that doesn't explain their disapearing. I think he just makes clones of himself.

thanks, i kinda got a wikipedia description to accompany this...

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

It's kind of like the Christian Trinity.

Jesus is the original Ben Reilly without web shooters...

and the Green Goblin represent the JEWS

 

[Strange]

Ummm, it had absolutely nothing to do with Rogue wanting to conform. She couldn't touch anyone without putting them into a coma. I doubt that's something anyone would want to live with.

I would love to be able to touch someone and put them into a coma. Especially with my dates, after a dinner and a movie I know the night will end the way I want it to.