Which political idealogy will cause the end of the world?

[November Rain]

deeply religious backed conservaties

if that makes any sense...

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Why do people make polls without bothering to think them through?
The answer is "both".

 

[Spider-Bite]

You really need to get rid of this generalization that all liberals oppose war are automatically good and represent all of left-winged politics and that all conservatives are hate-mongering fascists that are going to destroy the war.

It's insulting and downright ignorant.

I dont' believe it applies to every single person. It's an observational generalization.

 

[Spider-Bite]

You couldn't be more wrong. First of all, I think you need to rethink your ideas of what liberalism and conservatism are; second of all, don't try to simplify the situation when it isn't at all simple.

Again, I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal (somewhat libertarian), so where would I fall in your "simplified" world?

Socially liberal would not put you in the category as contribute to world war 3 or the end of the world.

Agreed. Exactly what I said in my previous reply to this thread. It's like a typical angst-ridden teenager's naive view of liberals and conservatives.

Why must somebody be a teenager in order to be liberal? you do know that 2 out of 3 college professors are liberal right?

 

[Spider-Bite]

If there is going to be a World War III, it'll be started by a right-wing reactionary government like Iran or a left-wing communist government like China or North Korea.

One country can't "start" world war 3 for the most part. It takes at least two to tangle. There is a very strong argument to be made that American President Bush deserves an awful lot of the blame for the oncoming world war 3. Not all of the blame, not even half, but a lot of it.

We aren't moving fast enough to get off of oil, and we haven't been reasonable in our trying to govern the middle east.

Nobody can say North Korea is leftist. We know practically nothing about their culture, other than everybody is opressed, and traditions are forced on people.

China has heavy regulation on their economy, but people there make 10 cents a day and millions a day. As far as evening out the wealth China is farther to the right than most of America. On human rights they are farther to the right than the vast majority of liberals on this planet.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

You do know that the term liberal was originally used for those who wanted change whereas the conservatives were those that wished to keep things the same. They have now been subverted to mean left wing and right wing.

However, the lines between both are blurred in many Countries such as France where the right wing party still upholds a wealth tax that starts at a very low level and in the UK, where the left wing party has kept taxes relatively low, using liberal (and this is right wing) economic policies, contrary to a Keynsian economic model, tend to show that labels seem inaccurate today.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Socially liberal would not put you in the category as contribute to world war 3 or the end of the world.

LMAO
One of the most Wrong posts I've read this morning...
Are......you aware that Al Qaeda, Iran and China hate the U.S. and major European powers because they are "Socially Liberal"?
LOL

Do you know why America is called "The Great Satan"?
It isn't solely because of our untamed imperialism and arrogant, violent expansionist bulls***.
It's also because we let women traipse around in man-pants, go to school, screw dudes they've just met, study, profess and preach about any religion that seems correct to them, allow cartoonists to draw whatever they want, let Atheists buy food, sell things for profit.....

I could go on all day. What are you Talking about?

 

[Spider-Bite]

Socialist and communist are the true conservatives because they want to keep trying what humanity has been doing for 5,000 years.

That's a complete lie. Economics and social issues are two differest areas for one thing, and hating gays and being racist and solving our differences with war is what weve been doing for way longer than 5000 years. Conservatives always want to do what they think has worked perfectly all these years. Liberals tend to want big change.

 

[raybia]

It won't be a political system that destroys the world.

Uncivilized, unnatural behavior will be our undoing.

The Earth won't be destroyed but the world that we know will be and a new one will rise in its place.

 

[Mee]

The Good Book don't say nothin bout political armageddon.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

The Good Book don't say nothin bout political armageddon.

If by "Good Book", you mean, "The Bible", it most certainly does.
The Anti-Christ gains political power over the entire world by taking measures to "ensure" peace and prosperity for all people.
But the "Peace and Prosperity" will be threatened if anyone disobeys by refusing to adhere to his economic mandate...the decree that "no one may buy or sell unless they bear the Mark of the Beast".

You, really can't GET more "political than that.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

But the "Peace and Prosperity" will be threatened if anyone disobeys by refusing to adhere to his economic mandate..

then....it already happened?

 

[Spider-Bite]

Osama bin Laden and the Iranian leader are not conservatives. They are reactionaries which is even more right-winged than Bush. And Bush is a crappy conservative, he spends like a liberal, a ******ed one at that.

Liberals tend to support higher spending, but government spending has no bearing on how liberal or conservative you are. What if a government leader spends 5 trillion dollars on preserving the culture, religion, and traditions of today?

Explain to me why Iran's president expelled all the liberal college professors out of college? Those people are extremely conservative. They appear much like America's past conservatives and even have a lot in common with today's American repbulican party.

The same thing could happen with conservative and anti-war. You need to get this ideal that all conservatives are a bunch of hateful warmongering bastards who want to destroy the world. As I have already said, your views on conservatives are extremely ignorant, naive, ill-informed, and insulting.

I feel that conservatives are extremely religous, prejudice, unaccepting people who want to blow the world up. All they do is prove me right on a daily basis. Just look at O'Reily, who's views are supported by America's conseravtives. "I think our Christain values make us noble. I think our founding father's were noble. I think Americans are very noble, there's room for improvement, but I like it pretty much the way it is, but these liberals say oh no, we need big change"

I say our founding fathers were slave owning, gay hating, women oppressing, indian murderers. I feel that like all cultures some Americans are noble, and others aren't. I believe a person's religion is irrelevant to their nobility, and America is the best place to live, and that's sad, because even America ain't that great.

Liberals can also support the idea of war. Various liberals in Congress such as John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid, Tom Daschle, Diane Feinstein, and others voted to SUPPORT Bush in his war against Saddam Hussein.

That's politics. People lie and do things to keep their jobs. It's not representative to the views of liberal citizens who in America make up only about 30% of the population. Not to mention they were lied to in order to get those votes. And they actually voted to give Bush authorization to go to war, as a way to put pressure on Saddam to let weapons inspectors in. Then at the time of the invasion some democrats who wanted to appeal to voters other than their liberal base stood up and pretended to support it.

The decision to invade was ultimate decided by Bush, who was given the authority to make that decision by congress.

Also your dream of world peace will never happen. The times will change. Idealologies will change. Demographics will change. But the nature of people will never change. People will always find a reason to hate one another, it's a basic human emotion like love, anger, joy, sadness, etc. People will hate other people on the basis of race, pride, fear, religion, history, territory, and any other reason they can find. War is a part of history and it will continue forever in the future. Thinking that world peace, no matter how desireable and beneficial it is, is a possibility is foolishness. World peace is an impossibility because there will always be a conflict somewhere in the world.

gotta go I'll be back. no time to comment on that paragraph.

 

[Mee]

If by "Good Book", you mean, "The Bible", it most certainly does.
The Anti-Christ gains political power over the entire world by taking measures to "ensure" peace and prosperity for all people.
But the "Peace and Prosperity" will be threatened if anyone disobeys by refusing to adhere to his economic mandate...the decree that "no one may buy or sell unless they bear the Mark of the Beast".

You, really can't GET more "political than that.

Yeah that slipped my mind. I'm not totally awake yet.


No big deal, I just forgot about the Anti-Christ. t:

 

[hippie_hunter]

One country can't "start" world war 3 for the most part. It takes at least two to tangle. There is a very strong argument to be made that American President Bush deserves an awful lot of the blame for the oncoming world war 3. Not all of the blame, not even half, but a lot of it.

Actually it can. Germany manipulated Austria into a fight in the Seven Weeks War. Germany provoked France into starting the Franco-Prussian War. Germany provoked Austria into starting World War I. Germany basically started World War II in Europe and Japan did the same in Asia.

China can start World War III by invading Taiwan. North Korea can start World War III by nuking South Korea or Japan. Iran can start World War III by attacking Israel.

In instances like these it will be one country that started it and President Bush would deserve no blame at all. As a matter in fact a lot of his policies aren't going to start World War III or even tie-into it. If there is going to be a World War III, it isn't for a long way off. Right now, there just aren't any warning signs of a World War like there were for World War I and World War II. So quit talking out of your ass.

We aren't moving fast enough to get off of oil, and we haven't been reasonable in our trying to govern the middle east.

If you ask me we should just pull out of the Middle East. They don't want us there and we should be focusing on getting off of Middle Eastern oil.

Nobody can say North Korea is leftist. We know practically nothing about their culture, other than everybody is opressed, and traditions are forced on people.

- The communist Workers' Party of Korea is in charge: check
- The economy is heavily centralized in a communist style: check
- The government has declared itself a communist state: check
- The world views North Korea as a repressive communist state: check

Last time I checked, North Korea is a communist state. Communism is on the far left of the political spectrum. So yes, North Korea is an extremist leftist state.

China has heavy regulation on their economy, but people there make 10 cents a day and millions a day. As far as evening out the wealth China is farther to the right than most of America. On human rights they are farther to the right than the vast majority of liberals on this planet.

You need to get this idea that oppresion is a tool of right-winged poltics. Oppression is a tool of both extremes of the political spectrum. China is a communist state. That means that it is a leftist state.

 

[chamber-music]

any political party that uses religion, as religion an politics don't mix.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Yeah that slipped my mind. I'm not totally awake yet.


No big deal, I just forgot about the Anti-Christ. t:

It happens. Last week we were pumpin' along on our dirt bikes, and there's the "Anti-Christ" ( ).
And he goes, "Hey bro.s!........where....'re you goin'? "
And we go, "Ohhhh,...hey....antichrist *false exclamation point*.....guhhh, pfff, we were...goin' to Shakey's Pizza........do.....you....wanna come? :fake smile:

And he goes, "SWEET!.....Lemmee....let me go home and get some money from my Mom and I'll meet you dudes there!
We should TOtally go to the salad bar and like, fill up! Hahahahaha"

And we went, "Cool. We'll save you some Baco-Bits, man."
So he tore off back to his ramshackle house like he was being chased by bees and we headed down by Lincoln and hooked up with this totally ****ty Puerto Rican girl whose cousin just got a Wii and then she felt me up and stuff.

 

[Mee]

Great story.

Tuck me in now, Papa?

 

[Kritish]

Religion will surely cause the third world war.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Liberals tend to support higher spending, but government spending has no bearing on how liberal or conservative you are. What if a government leader spends 5 trillion dollars on preserving the culture, religion, and traditions of today?

They are still fiscally liberal, a ******ed fiscal liberal at that.

Explain to me why Iran's president expelled all the liberal college professors out of college? Those people are extremely conservative. They appear much like America's past conservatives and even have a lot in common with today's American repbulican party.

You are a jackass for comparing the leaders of Iran to the Republicans of America. The leadership in Iran is so far towards the right that they aren't even conservatives. They are reactionaries. Stop thinking that all right-winged politics are conservatives.

I feel that conservatives are extremely religous, prejudice, unaccepting people who want to blow the world up. All they do is prove me right on a daily basis. Just look at O'Reily, who's views are supported by America's conseravtives. "I think our Christain values make us noble. I think our founding father's were noble. I think Americans are very noble, there's room for improvement, but I like it pretty much the way it is, but these liberals say oh no, we need big change"

Again, you are a jackass for thinking that all conservatives are like that. It's downright insulting. My parents are conservatives and they are not extremely religous, prejudiced, and unaccepting of other people. Many of the people I work with are conservative yet think the same way. You need to get ignorant jackasses like Bill O'Reily, Ann Coulter, and Rush Limbaugh out of your head and realise that they don't represent all conservatives, they represent the neo-conservatives.

I say our founding fathers were slave owning, gay hating, women oppressing, indian murderers. I feel that like all cultures some Americans are noble, and others aren't. I believe a person's religion is irrelevant to their nobility, and America is the best place to live, and that's sad, because even America ain't that great.

Again, you're being an ignorant jackass.

That's politics. People lie and do things to keep their jobs. It's not representative to the views of liberal citizens who in America make up only about 30% of the population. Not to mention they were lied to in order to get those votes. And they actually voted to give Bush authorization to go to war, as a way to put pressure on Saddam to let weapons inspectors in. Then at the time of the invasion some democrats who wanted to appeal to voters other than their liberal base stood up and pretended to support it.

Again, you are missing the point. The point was that LIBERALS voted to go to war. It's not just a conservative thing.

The decision to invade was ultimate decided by Bush, who was given the authority to make that decision by congress.

That is true.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Religion will surely cause the third world war.

Nope. It'll be a justification for WW3.
The causes are way more complex and varied.

 

[Kritish]

Nope. It'll be a justification for WW3.
The causes are way more complex and varied.

The Nazi's believed they were descendants of Atlantis.

 

[hippie_hunter]

The Nazi's believed they were descendants of Atlantis.

No they didn't, they beleived that the German people were descendants of the Aryan race, the perfect race.

 

[Kritish]

No they didn't, they beleived that the German people were descendants of the Aryan race, the perfect race.

The concept of Atlantis also attracted National Socialist (Nazi) theorists. In 1938, Heinrich Himmler organized a search in Tibet to find a remnant of the white Atlanteans. According to Julius Evola (Revolt Against the Modern World, 1934), the Atlanteans were Hyperboreans -- Nordic supermen who originated on the North pole (see Thule). Similarly, Alfred Rosenberg (The Myth of the Twentieth Century, 1930) spoke of a "Nordic-Atlantean" or "Aryan-Nordic" master race.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

Nope. It'll be a justification for WW3.
The causes are way more complex and varied.

reptilians.