Which political idealogy will cause the end of the world?

[DV8]

Good thing then that capitalism is the only system that promotes more effective use of resources and new technology, capitalism is the only system that creates long term investment (no maintenance without private property). Resources that are privately owned never run out.

you're just a stoopid n00b anyway . . . your smart talk don't matta to me until yous got mo' posts than I do. . . .

 

[Kritish]

you're just a stoopid n00b anyway . . . your smart talk don't matta to me until yous got mo' posts than I do. . . .

Perhaps if you want to sound smarter than everyone you should use correct grammer and cease your use of leet.

 

[DV8]

^c'mon Kritish . . . I was being sarcasmatic you disappoint me . . .

 

[Kritish]

^c'mon Kritish . . . I was being sarcasmatic you disappoint me . . .

I was just trying to be an arse, nothing personal.

 

[DV8]

^forgiven

 

[Human Shield]

That's a complete lie. Economics and social issues are two differest areas for one thing, and hating gays and being racist and solving our differences with war is what weve been doing for way longer than 5000 years. Conservatives always want to do what they think has worked perfectly all these years. Liberals tend to want big change.

How are they different? Both work on the principle of noninterference.

So the cultures after the Greeks that hated gays were liberal because it was a change? Were the first people to go to Africa liberal to start fighting them instead of between their own countries because it was a change?

The terms are worthless. Keeping things the same and liberty aren't on the same axis, sometimes liberty is keeping things the same sometimes it is changing things, the American revolution kept English common law and parliament framework and took out the king and added constitution. The French Revolution wanted to change everything and had no place for natural rights, slaughtering tons of people. So are natural rights a conservative or liberal idea?

Economic controls have been used since the start of civilization and always lead to the fall of the classical civilizations. Hilary Clinton's health care plan uses the same mechanism as the Code of Hammurabi that failed in his time in Babylon.

 

[Superwoman Prime]

Most libertarians are cynical *******s. That is what the libertarian party is offspringed from:

Freakish cynicism.

Most democrat liberals have no religious morals. Therefore, they are not grounded in any specific culture... which, therefore, is the destruction of culture itself. That is unacceptable.


Strangely enough, I'm the only one that voted for Liberals being the ones who we someday retrospectively see as being the cause of WWIII.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

Most democrat liberals have no religious morals. Therefore, they are not grounded in any specific culture... which, therefore, is the destruction of culture itself. That is unacceptable.

WOW, what a dumb thing to say

 

[Spider-Bite]

LMAO
One of the most Wrong posts I've read this morning...
Are......you aware that Al Qaeda, Iran and China hate the U.S. and major European powers because they are "Socially Liberal"?
LOL

Do you know why America is called "The Great Satan"?
It isn't solely because of our untamed imperialism and arrogant, violent expansionist bulls***.
It's also because we let women traipse around in man-pants, go to school, screw dudes they've just met, study, profess and preach about any religion that seems correct to them, allow cartoonists to draw whatever they want, let Atheists buy food, sell things for profit.....

I could go on all day. What are you Talking about?

Alquead and Iran are liberal? what planet have you been living on? They are conservative extremists. Somthing like 30% of Iran is liberal, and something like 60% is conservative. Alqueda? Dude they are ultra conservative. How on earth could you figure they are liberal?

The mian reason we are hated by the middle east is because we protect Israel.

 

[Corinthian™]

NEITHER

Our downfall will be cause by those ****ing Buddhist Pacifists

 

[Spider-Bite]

Hippie Hunter Also your dream of world peace will never happen. The times will change. Idealologies will change. Demographics will change. But the nature of people will never change. People will always find a reason to hate one another, it's a basic human emotion like love, anger, joy, sadness, etc. People will hate other people on the basis of race, pride, fear, religion, history, territory, and any other reason they can find. War is a part of history and it will continue forever in the future. Thinking that world peace, no matter how desireable and beneficial it is, is a possibility is foolishness. World peace is an impossibility because there will always be a conflict somewhere in the world.

World peace is not impossible. yeah it's in our nature to go to war and hate each other, but a person is not ruled by his or her instincts, any more than my dog is obligated to piss on the carpet because he smells another dog who visited rescently. You can train a dog not to do things that are instinctual to him, and you can train a human even easier, becuase we have the ability to reason.

There was a time when the United States weren't so united. many probably thought we never would be. I'm sure blacks thought "anybody who thinks we wont always be slaves is naive and putting too much faith in whitey" I'm sure women thought that men would never ever let them live as equals. Many people thought we would never make it to the moon. Who'd have thought gays would actually be getting married in America? People probably even doubted color tvs.

We are the same species, and nobody can say that 300 years from now we wont be united as a one world government. Why are we any more likely to go to war with another country than Iowa is to go to war with Florida? Location? These petty oceans are nothing in the scheme of the universe. If we survive the next couple centuries we will discover means of interstellar travel, and what happens when we discover an alien culture? Will earthlings be seperated by borders, ancestry, oceans, or religion here on earth? That's like saying me and my next door neighboors can't live in peace because we live in different households.

 

[Spider-Bite]

How are they different? Both work on the principle of noninterference.

how is a constitutional ammendmant to ban gay marriage noninterferrence? How is oppression noninterferrence? How is bringing a kid to church noninterferrence with that kid's future religous belief or lack thereof? How is Osama Bin laden killing women for reading noninterferrence?

So the cultures after the Greeks that hated gays were liberal because it was a change? Were the first people to go to Africa liberal to start fighting them instead of between their own countries because it was a change?


The terms are worthless. Keeping things the same and liberty aren't on the same axis, sometimes liberty is keeping things the same sometimes it is changing things, the American revolution kept English common law and parliament framework and took out the king and added constitution. The French Revolution wanted to change everything and had no place for natural rights, slaughtering tons of people. So are natural rights a conservative or liberal idea?

Not to be rude, but it sounds like in these paragraphs your intentionally pretending to be dumb. You and I both know the whole world does not progress at an equal pace. It's like the stock market. Ups and downs.

Economic controls have been used since the start of civilization and always lead to the fall of the classical civilizations. Hilary Clinton's health care plan uses the same mechanism as the Code of Hammurabi that failed in his time in Babylon.

this is 2006 you know.

 

[Spider-Bite]

Most libertarians are cynical *******s. That is what the libertarian party is offspringed from:

Freakish cynicism.

Most democrat liberals have no religious morals. Therefore, they are not grounded in any specific culture... which, therefore, is the destruction of culture itself. That is unacceptable.


Strangely enough, I'm the only one that voted for Liberals being the ones who we someday retrospectively see as being the cause of WWIII.

Religion is one of the most dangerous things ever invented by mankind. It's nothing but another division with ideals that people blindly follow and causes them not to use reasoning.

 

[The Overlord]

You need to get this idea that oppresion is a tool of right-winged poltics. Oppression is a tool of both extremes of the political spectrum. China is a communist state. That means that it is a leftist state.

China is CINO (Communist in name only). Marx's writing state that is against the rules that he sets out forbidding sweat shops, child labour and private enterprise in the dictatorship of the proles. Say what you will about Communism, but it does have an ethos (an economic one) and if you don't follow it, you aren't really a communist. Its like saying your Christian, but not believing in the divinity of Christ, if you don't follow the ethos of Christainity, you are not a Christian.

 

[The Man Of 16]

Why does WWIII have to be the end?

Because this is what our generation consists of.

Emo kids... I can't imagine these losers winning a war.

...Also, because things usually end in trilogies. Example: The Matrix, The good Rocky movies, the good Saw movies, and lets not forget SPIDERMAN.

 

[Human Shield]

how is a constitutional ammendmant to ban gay marriage noninterferrence? How is oppression noninterferrence? How is bringing a kid to church noninterferrence with that kid's future religous belief or lack thereof? How is Osama Bin laden killing women for reading noninterferrence?

Exactly, a lack on noninterference. Economic freedom works the same.

A kid is treated like a kid until they are 18.

Economic controls have been used since the start of civilization and always lead to the fall of the classical civilizations. Hilary Clinton's health care plan uses the same mechanism as the Code of Hammurabi that failed in his time in Babylon.

this is 2006 you know.

Hasn't stopped politicians from still using price controls (a large part of the people fed to lions by the Romans and beheaded during the French revolution).

 

[Spider-Bite]

If the government doesn't interfere economically the rich will use their power to walk all over people. The market wont be free or fair for the little man. Of course this aspect of politics has nothing to do with foriegn policy. A person can side with the left on the economy and still side with the right on foreign policy, and contribute to the end of our species.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

No one ideology will be the downfall of humanity. If anything our inability to conserve resources will be our downfall, not who we elect or who takes offices.

 

[Dan33977]

Socially liberal would not put you in the category as contribute to world war 3 or the end of the world.

*sighs*

Yes, I understand this, but you keep saying that conservatives are evil, conservatives do this, conservatives hate everyone, etc. so despite everything I (and others who've also replied to your thread) have been trying to get through your thick skull, you still fail to realize the fact that someone can be both liberal and conservative (like myself); you use these two terms too much and too loosely, and they aren't as black and white as you make them out to be.

Agreed. Exactly what I said in my previous reply to this thread. It's like a typical angst-ridden teenager's naive view of liberals and conservatives.

Why must somebody be a teenager in order to be liberal? you do know that 2 out of 3 college professors are liberal right?

Wow!

Are you mentally ******ed?

No, I'm not joking. Are you? If not, then you seriously need to go back and reread what I said: you views on what the terms liberalism and conservatism mean are like those of a typical, naïve angst-ridden teenager, not your actual political standing.

This is the 3rd time now...

 

[hippie_hunter]

Alquead and Iran are liberal? what planet have you been living on? They are conservative extremists. Somthing like 30% of Iran is liberal, and something like 60% is conservative. Alqueda? Dude they are ultra conservative. How on earth could you figure they are liberal?

The mian reason we are hated by the middle east is because we protect Israel.

What part of what I said about Iran and al-Qaeda being so extremely to the right that they are not conservatives do you not get!

Right Winged Politics
Conservative (jonty, the United States, Mexico, etc.) ---> fascist (Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Nationalist Spain, Imperial Japan) ---> reactionary (Taliban Afghanistan, al-Qaeda, Iran)

 

[hippie_hunter]

China is CINO (Communist in name only). Marx's writing state that is against the rules that he sets out forbidding sweat shops, child labour and private enterprise in the dictatorship of the proles. Say what you will about Communism, but it does have an ethos (an economic one) and if you don't follow it, you aren't really a communist. Its like saying your Christian, but not believing in the divinity of Christ, if you don't follow the ethos of Christainity, you are not a Christian.

Marx developed communism as an economic system, not a political system. He envisioned that government would eventually dissipate as it would be no longer needed in a utopia where everyone works together peacefully and everything such as land, the means of production, etc. is owned by the people.

Good on paper, bad in practice because of what happened, it developed into a political system.

Communism as a political system was developed by Lenin and Stalin and basically cemented what communism became.

Also, China is technically a socialist state economically. Socialism allows some forms of private ownership but the government has tight power over it. The reason why there are sweat shops and child labor and other poor labor conditions in China is because China allows it to happen and isn't doing anything about it. China tells you if you can or cannot do business in their country. And they tell you what you can and cannot do with your business.

Politically however, China is still communist. The Communist Party is still in power. It is the only power allowed and politically acts communist.

 

[Corinthian™]

What part of what I said about Iran and al-Qaeda being so extremely to the right that they are not conservatives do you not get!

Right Winged Politics
Conservative (jonty, the United States, Mexico, etc.) ---> fascist (Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Nationalist Spain, Imperial Japan) ---> reactionary (Taliban Afghanistan, al-Qaeda, Iran)

LOL Mexico is so not Conservative... right now we live in a Central Leftist era

 

[hippie_hunter]

LOL Mexico is so not Conservative... right now we live in a Central Leftist era

Hmm...I never really saw Mexico as a leftist nation. Wasn't the guy who recently won the Presidential election a member of a right-winged party or something

 

[The Riddler]

this thread needs a different question: which religious idealogy will contribute to a world wide conflict?

 

[Corinthian™]

Hmm...I never really saw Mexico as a leftist nation. Wasn't the guy who recently won the Presidential election a member of a right-winged party or something

but consider Mexican's right wing party as moderate Democrat/Republican..

and a lot of the things he's doing are really leftist and populists to some extent.. last election really divided Mexico so he's doing a good job so far into uniting him by proposing leftist ideas around