Daredevil Which Villains should appear in this TV series?

[bluerayer]

He played Bolg in the Hobbit, but I can't say that requires acting. He seems to play big strong men more than anything else (ETA: He was also in Spartacus).

It's also possible that this could be played to an advantage. They might be able to play the character convincingly by playing him as a "simple giant." Basically, the character has to be someone both threatening and likeable. You have to know he could hurt people, but also not blame him for that. Both of the previous two suggestions seem good for at least that. Even if the actor can't portray subtleties of mental illness, they can still edit it in a way that he doesn't have to. After all, just like in court, it'll be his lawyers and his psychiatrist who make the case for him.

Ok, i haven't seen the Hobbit yet but that actor has got the look. Dominic Purcell was both believable as a caring older brother as well as a tough guy on Prison Break. Not to mention he's got the look of Gladiator too. Guy's built like a brick house.

Some more pics of Dominic

 

[Mike Murdock]

Yeah, he seems solid enough. At least worthy of consideration given his physical resemblance. I was suggesting ways to "edit around," so to speak, any difficulties in portraying a somewhat cheesy mental illness in a convincing way.

3- Mr. Fear

I'm definitely warming up to Mr. Fear. Specifically, the Larry Cranston version given the past connection to Matt Murdock. It's a tough call, though, because Zoltan Drago has one of the coolest names ever.

 

[bluerayer]

Yeah, he seems solid enough. At least worthy of consideration given his physical resemblance. I was suggesting ways to "edit around," so to speak, any difficulties in portraying a somewhat cheesy mental illness in a convincing way.

Also another point in Purcell's favor is that he's mainly a tv actor. So he wouldn't be impossible to get price-wise(gotta think about the budget). Also not as many high horses as if they got a moviestar. I dont really think he would have any problems acting the role either.

 

[Gr0oT]

I'd love to believe he is a great actor that just hasn't had an opportunity to display his talents yet, shame Game of Thrones didn't lock him into a contract although the latest guy did a great job.

If he can't act then never mind, but if a good performance can be wrought out of him he'd be a formidable Gladiator, imo.

 

[The Overlord]

Yeah, he seems solid enough. At least worthy of consideration given his physical resemblance. I was suggesting ways to "edit around," so to speak, any difficulties in portraying a somewhat cheesy mental illness in a convincing way.



I'm definitely warming up to Mr. Fear. Specifically, the Larry Cranston version given the past connection to Matt Murdock. It's a tough call, though, because Zoltan Drago has one of the coolest names ever.

Well Zoltan Drago could be the one who invents the fear gas, while Cranston steals it for his own purposes. Drago was a nothing character anyway, he only had one appearance before he was murdered and replaced by someone else (Samuel Starr Saxon) as Mr. Fear.

There has been 4 Mr. Fear characters, but for DD Cranston is the only one who matters. Drago died after his first appearance, Saxon quickly gave up his identity as Mr. Fear and became another villain entirely, Machinesmith and started fighting with Captain America instead. Besides Cranston, the only other Mr. Fear is Alan Fagan, who is more of a Spidey villain then a DD one and seems like just a sleazy jerk, a forgettable villain compared to the nightmarish psychopath his uncle is.

You could easily have Drago create the fear gas and then Cranston murders him to have it to himself. Cranston is a legal expert, not a chemist, so having someone else invent the fear gas and having Cranston murder that person makes sense. Heck Cranston did that in last major appearance, he hired a brilliant chemist to improve his fear gas formula and then murdered the guy when he didn't need him anymore. I think it would be a good way to streamline the Mr. Fear character.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Ooh, I like that. You can even have Zoltan Drago be someone who was once a client of Cranston. Helps add to the mystery (they suspect Drago first because of his past before realizing it's his lawyer).

 

[chamber-music]

Lukas Haas for Mister Fear.

 

[KangConquers]

****. I forgot I posted in this.

Mr. Fear and Purple Man should both be a part of the Street Level MCU.

 

[Neno_Kos]

Anyone would be good, but i want costumes instead of black generic outfits.

 

[Dark Raven]

Anyone would be good, but i want costumes instead of black generic outfits.

I want Gladiator to wear his iconic armour and have those wrist blades. I don't want just some random bald guy with a few knives.

 

[3dman27]

anyone would be good, but i want costumes instead of black generic outfits.

qft

 

[Mike Murdock]

Fortunately, the absurdity of Gladiator's costume works for him. It builds up his insanity. The only one I have doubts that they'd use is Bullseye. They've toned it down in more recent comics and the movie obviously avoided the look. I think some version of the original comic version is good. If Daredevil can wear red, Bullseye can wear blue. They mirror each other for a reason.

 

[Dark Raven]

I don't see why Bullseye couldn't wear a cowl like DD. They took it away from him and gave him a target scar on his head when Colin Farrell played him. Bullseye can be in black with white gloves and boots and a black cowl. He'll still look close enough to the comic version.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I hope so. I'm just saying that, if they were to change a character's costume, he's the number one target. For the rest (Kingpin's pants aside), I don't think they'd blink at faithfully adopting the costume.

That being said, Marvel is pretty good at being faithful.

 

[Loki882]

Well it depends on the character. They changed what Abominations mutated form looked like quite a bit. Malekith looked quite different from his comic book counterpart as well. The twins look like they're wearing pretty different outfits from the comics in AOU. And let's not even get started on Aldrich Killian/The Mandarin. On the other hand, Loki, Ronan, Nebula, and Thanos all look like they were ripped right off of the page.

 

[The Overlord]

It really depends on the character, a lot of DD villains don't have costumes:

Kingpin wears a white business suit. Owl wears a rather foppish green business suit. Most of the Nocenti villains (Typhoid Mary, Bullet, Bushwacker, etc) don't wear typical super villain costumes, most of them wear street clothes, though they may make Typhoid Mary's most less revealing, it is a bit over the top in that respect. The hand look like typical ninja, no real reason to change their design. As noted before, Gladiator is insane so him having an over the top costume works.

I think Bullseye costume is the best candidate for changing, I don't like the white gloves or boots, they don't seem like good accessories for someone who is supposed to be an assassin and using stealth. Mr. Fear has a pretty over the top costume, but they recently changed the color scheme, so he looks more like the Grim Reaper and less like Skeletor (they even changed his mask to look more like a skull shaped gas mask), though Mr. Fear's costume isn't that important to the overall show, so I don't mind changing it, as long it looks nice.

As I said before, if Jester and Stilt-Man appear, they should be corrupt civilians rather then super villains, so they wouldn't wear costumes (Stilt-Man is too expensive to appear on TV series, given how unimportant he is in the comics). If guys like Leap-Frog and Matador are used as comic relief, their costumes should be as ridiculous and home made as possible.

 

[The.Brotherhood]

Bullseye running around new york city killing people with paperclips.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I don't particularly care if Stilt-Man appears, but, if he isn't in costume, what the hell is the point?

The thing about Bullseye is the showmanship is important to him. He's someone who adamantly maintains that his real name is Bullseye, the other names he's used are just pseudonyms. He not only wanted to defeat Daredevil, he wanted to be seen as beating Daredevil. In that sense, the costume makes sense. Of course, along the same line of thinking, having a Bullseye tattoo also makes sense.

 

[The Overlord]

I don't particularly care if Stilt-Man appears, but, if he isn't in costume, what the hell is the point?

Well I was thinking Wilbur Day could be a white collar criminal, that's how he started out really, he stole the hydraulic ram that he created the Stilt-Man armor and then attempted to sue his boss, claiming his boss stole the hydraulic ram idea from him.

I think white collar crime is more relevant, then another costume thief with a bad gimmick, having criminals in civilian roles shows that not all bad guys are so obvious, that they all wear flashy costumes and commit very public crimes, sometimes criminals hide in plain sight and are dangerous because of their position in civil society.

In Batman Begins Scarecrow was the head of Arkham Asylum in his civilian guise, Obadiah Stane was the number 2 guy at Stark Enterprises in Iron Man 1.

I think someone like Wilbur Day could cause more damage as a white collar criminal, then he ever could as just another costumed thief.

But that's just my opinion, really Stilt-Man has not fit in with DD's universe since Miller revamped in back in the early 80s, that's new idea to make him fit in better with the more street level noir post Miller DD. Or they just not use him, because I wouldn't want the producers to waste money on Stilt-Man that could be better spent elsewhere.

The thing about Bullseye is the showmanship is important to him. He's someone who adamantly maintains that his real name is Bullseye, the other names he's used are just pseudonyms. He not only wanted to defeat Daredevil, he wanted to be seen as beating Daredevil. In that sense, the costume makes sense. Of course, along the same line of thinking, having a Bullseye tattoo also makes sense.

Fair enough, though I do wonder if the white boots and gloves would look good in live action.

 

[Dark Raven]

I don't see why white boots and gloves couldn't look okay. It's not like they look campy. I think Bullseye's costume could translate well from comic to screen.

 

[Mike Murdock]

To me, the gloves are a minor point either way. If they look goofy, by all means drop them (I'd probably make sure he keeps gloves, but blue or black would be fine). Really, whether he has a costume will come down to whether a villain could look intimidating in a legitimate fabric costume on film and whether he would look good with a bit bullseye symbol on his head). We've accepted as an audience that heroes can look like that (Spider-Man, Captain America (with some hesitation), and now Daredevil), but the only villain who seems to go down that route so far is Loki.

 

[chamber-music]

Zach McGowan from Black Sails and Dracula Untold might make a good Gladiator

 

[Dasher10]

What about Typhoid?

I propose Carice Van Houten.

Also, Stilt Man is a joke villain and has never been a threat in the same way that Kingpin, Typhoid, Owl, Bullseye, Nuke, etc are. You can do Daredevil without Stilt Man since he's only as important to the character as Big Wheel is to Spider-Man and I seriously doubt that many people are wanting to see Big Wheel pop up in the Spider-Man films or Calender Man in a Batman movie.

 

[The Overlord]

Yeah, if these series needs comic relief, Turk is far less expensive then Stilt-Man and I think DD fans like him better then Stilt-Man, mainly because Turk had been used during Frank Miller run and many people think he has been used to better comedic effect then Stilt-Man.

 

[Dasher10]

Here's my shortlist

Kingpin (confirmed)
Echo (Probably who Rosario Dawson is playing)
Elektra
Typhoid
Bullseye (both Lester and Maki Matsumoto)
Bullet
Nuke
Mister Fear
Owl
Gladiator
Ikari
Bushwhacker
Death Stalker

Keep in mind that I really, really don't want to see leap Frog or Stilt Man. Those villains need to be forgotten by time when I just listed three season's worth of antagonists who would actually be worth seeing as opposed to two who this forum seems to fixate on who'd both hog the effects budget and have never been anything more than joke villains.

I'm conflicted on Matador and Jester. Matador would only be good for around five minutes as a joke villain pulling off a heist before his invisibility power proves to be completely useless and he goes down in one punch. Jester would need to be depicted the way he was in Mark Waid's run, otherwise I'd say no.