Who are the real villains of the series?

[Mr Jide]

I sold my soul to the devil earlier in the week.

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[LordSimen]

Eddie wanted Peter to die before the Simbiote attached to him. He's the only one of the villains who had truly evil intentions before even having his "accident," so therefore he's the true "evil" villain of the series.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Eddie wanted Peter to die before the Simbiote attached to him. He's the only one of the villains who had truly evil intentions before even having his "accident," so therefore he's the true "evil" villain of the series.

I wouldnt say he was evil beforehand though, i think he was just the ype of guy who would do anything to get ahead in life, which doesnt make him evil. But once he became Venom, he was pretty ruthless.

 

[Jack O Lantern]

To me Norman OsBourne, Doc Ock and Eddie Brock are all evil. Everyone of them were shown to do wrong before they're accidents, Norman OsBorne was simply given the means to do what he always wanted, he was given two personalities yes but at the end of the film they were working as a team almost.

When Strom said they needed to take the whole serum back to formula Norman says "Back to formula?" then just before he kills him he says "Back to formula?" the last thing he says to the board is "Out am i?" then before he kills them he says "Out am I?" Plus when the Goblin first talks to OsBorne he talks about "SO many good things happening for you?" meaning that OsBorne consdiered the death of the Quest team and his board as good things.

I never ever got the impression that the arms controlled Doc Ock, rather they would tell him what he wanted to hear, they're tapped into his consceince, their wants are his wants. Plus you have to remember that even before the chip was destroyed he risked the life of everybody there even when Harry ordered him to turn it off, he even attacked Spidey when he tried to turn it off. Sure he "redeemed" himself in the end, after he was defeated, going to die anyway, then his arrogance took over, did he not want to die a monster for a morale reason? Or for a reputation reason?

Eddie Brock i always felt sorry for the first few times I watched it without knowing why, he deserved to be fired he framed Spidey for something he didn't do, stole a job from Peter and never had Gwen to begin with, so why did feel sory for him? Because he's Eric Foreman. Once I got past that I realised he was an evil bastard.

 

[Cmill216]

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[The Joker]

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[November Rain]

To answer the thread, there were no 'real' villains. The rest were shoddy.

and congratulations cmill216

 

[Anti-Venom]

Both Norman's and Brock's deaths were accidents.

Yeah, they always had to dance around the fact that Spidey can't actually kill anyone.

 

[Cmill216]

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Thank ya, Ock.

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And thank ya, Rain.

 

[weezerspider]

Eddie asked God to kill Peter Parker before he became Venom. He's not a sympathetic character. He's clearly the most evil villain in the series.

 

[Drizzle]

To me Norman OsBourne, Doc Ock and Eddie Brock are all evil. Everyone of them were shown to do wrong before they're accidents

Doc Ock did no wrong before his accident. He was just too obsessed with his work.

 

[The Joker]

Doc Ock did no wrong before his accident. He was just too obsessed with his work.

He smashed Spidey into a wall hard enough to crumble the wall, when Spidey tried to unplug the reactor.

Regardless of his reasons, that was wrong. And, foreshadowed the kind of violence he was capable of.

 

[Da Games Elite]

Eddie asked God to kill Peter Parker before he became Venom. He's not a sympathetic character. He's clearly the most evil villain in the series.

I think he was more desperate than evil. For me, evil means that he just got up one day and, for personal gain, desided to kill someone. Eddie was ruthless before hand, but not evil.

Norman and the Green Goblin are sort of two different people. Norman is not perfect, but very ambitious. The Goblin is evil, though, without a doubt. He just kills to solve all his problems, and does it for little reason other than to make things easier for Norman.

Doc Ock is sympathetic, and so is Sandman. And even the symbiote isn't evil: he's just an animal trying to survive. It's like calling a lion evil for killing its prey.

So, in a way, only the Goblin is evil, if you think about it.

 

[Spiderine]

GG is one of my favorite... with that said, the question was, was anyone a real villain... basically, absent of being sympathetic. GG & Venom could possibly fit that catagory; however, I just think both Norman and Eddie became a product of circumstance.

Norman simply became desperate. He's simply portrayed in the film as an ambitious CEO/Engineer, trying to insure military contracts, at a time when his chief rival was successfully snaring those contracts out from underneath OsCorps feet. The rest is history... he tested the formula on himself, loss his sense of reality, and done many sinister things. That's no difference from the tentacles taking over Doc Ock's mind.... in this case, it was the formula, and GG appear to be less redeemable than Doc Ock.

Eddie was just as ambitious; but also, a complete arse-hole. He was not an evil person, until his feeble mind was controled by the Symbiote... which imo, the Symbiote is the only one that should be considered, a pure villain.

Norman was not able to battle his inner demons unlike Ock.

 

[chaseter]

Avi and Laura

 

[Kevin Roegele]

What about Raimi's favoured, "My evil mask/tentacles/visions of myself/visions of my dad/symbiote costume/love of my daughter made me do it"?

Regarding Doc Ock, his redemptive final act of drowning the....thing was actually written as Curt Connors/The Lizard's sacrifice and return to good. It was grafted onto Ock when the two characters were combined. If you can imagine the part when Ock is about to stab Spidey but ends up electrocuted, that was when Ock was defeated, and then it's the Lizard who grabs him by the throat and who Peter eventually convinces to return to the side of the angels.

 

[Grievous]

Venom/Symbiote, it wanted it's host to do bad things and it feeds off of it. It also consume's the host.

but Eddie never chose to take the suit. he is just like Doc Ock, their power had them do bad things.

 

[lordofthenerds]

^Except Eddie wanted Peter to die before he got his power.

 

[Grievous]

^Except Eddie wanted Peter to die before he got his power.

yeah but he still did not want to kill him his self. Untill the symbiote got on him.

 

[lordofthenerds]

yeah but he still did not want to kill him his self. Untill the symbiote got on him.

Still, he was twisted from the get-go.

 

[Grievous]

still he could not controll himself. So he was not really evil.

 

[lordofthenerds]

Oh come on. I guess he couldn't control himself as Venom either. Nor can any other criminal control himself from committing a crime by that logic.

 

[Grievous]

but we are not talking about any person we are talking about Eddie. Sure he did not like Peter but he did not go bad untill he got the suit.

 

[IamProdigy]

Green Goblin and Venom, imo, were the most evil villains in the three films...New Goblin would be close, but there was always a side in him that did not wanna be evil, and his good side was shown before his death. Doc Ock and Sandman were too sympathetic to me, as in, with Doc Ock, he was obsessed with his fusion machine and didn't even care about Spider-Man, but he should've gotten obsessed in killing Spidey instead. Sandman was just a guy who thinks he can do no wrong because he has a sick daughter...boo-hoo.

 

[DACrowe]

Okay I got it. The villains of the series are:

-Green Goblin
-Doc Ock
-New Goblin
-Sandman
-Venom

and maybe you can count the symbiote too.