Who do you think is the best american director? right now

[luke1234]

yeah but some of his shots and his storylines get reptative, in his new film the darjeeling limited i could only sit through it once to enjoy it, that film only had 2 good scenes, the opening scene and the flashback scene. Wes never did a flashback before thats why it was so effective. I just think he has to mix it up a little.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

I dont really care.

You don't care that the film is severely, fundamentally flawed?

 

[cerealkiller182]

You don't care that the film is severely, fundamentally flawed?

I dont care how you cant understand why it entertained me

 

[Sarge 2.0]

I dont care how you cant understand why it entertained me

Ah. In case you were wondering, that was my way of trying to get you to explain why it entertained you.

 

[cerealkiller182]

yeah but some of his shots and his storylines get reptative, in his new film the darjeeling limited i could only sit through it once to enjoy it, that film only had 2 good scenes, the opening scene and the flashback scene. Wes never did a flashback before thats why it was so effective. I just think he has to mix it up a little.

the family aspect was not what was bad about that film though. It missed a lot of his trademark style humor. And the characters were a little more unrelatable and unlikeable than his other flicks except for the scene in the mechanic shop

 

[luke1234]

the family aspect was not what was bad about that film though. It missed a lot of his trademark style humor. And the characters were a little more unrelatable and unlikeable than his other flicks except for the scene in the mechanic shop

yeah i must agree wit that

 

[cerealkiller182]

Ah. In case you were wondering, that was my way of trying to get you to explain why it entertained you.

Why should I bother? You've already cemented your opinion and have taken every chance you can at insulting Ritchie and his last 2 movies. Its like trying to example why I eat meat to a vegetarian. Because I like it. Bottom line. Its not like this movie is a favorite of mine, or even in the top 500 of my favorite films. Im not passionate enough about it to argue for it. It entertained me in the simplest way possible and I dont think it breaks Ritchies career like you like to think it does.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

Why should I bother? You've already cemented your opinion and have taken every chance you can at insulting Ritchie and his last 2 movies. Its like trying to example why I eat meat to a vegetarian. Because I like it. Bottom line. Its not like this movie is a favorite of mine, or even in the top 500 of my favorite films. Im not passionate enough about it to argue for it. It entertained me in the simplest way possible and I dont think it breaks Ritchies career like you like to think it does.

I presented reasons for why I feel the way I do about the film, this discussion is pointless unless you present your reasons for your opinion. Don't state an opinion if you're not going to elaborate on it. Conversation doesn't work that way.

Well, bad conversation works that way.

And yes, I think Ritchie's last two films are garbage, but what frustrates me is his reputation as this awesome master of stylish movie making that he seems to have accumulated. I hope Sherlock Holmes is good. I don't want him to make bad films, but the last two that he has made were so terrible that one has to at least question his worth as a director. Especially since we're comparing him to Robert Rodriguez, who is far more solid and consistent with his output.

 

[cerealkiller182]

I presented reasons for why I feel the way I do about the film, this discussion is pointless unless you present your reasons for your opinion. Don't state an opinion if you're not going to elaborate on it. Conversation doesn't work that way. And yes, I think Ritchie's last two films are garbage, but what frustrates me is his reputation as this awesome master of stylish movie making that he seems to have accumulated. I hope Sherlock Holmes is good. I don't want him to make bad films, but the last two that he has made were so terrible that one has to at least question his worth as a director. Especially since we're comparing him to Robert Rodriguez, who is far more solid and consistent with his output.

Well, bad conversation works that way.

I was originally the person that presented Rodriguez that started the conversation with Carmine Falcone. I understand the differences between Ritchie and Rodriguez.

Now if you must know why I like Revolver (Im not quite sure why I have to present myself just because you disagree). I liked the characterizations of Statham, Liotta, and Strong. I thought Strong gave a great performance and every scene with him in it was gold. I found the first half really interesting but it became too convoluted when they tried to reveal who everyone was. What was going on with Stathams character kept me interested. A lot of the visuals (albeit the animation) looked really good. So like i said, it has its flaws but its not entirely flawless.

And stop mentioning Swept Away. No one is sticking up for it. Everyone knows it sucks.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

You were the one who first mentioned "his last two movies", not me. I was simply replying to that point of yours.

Again, that's basically how conversation works.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

Oh, and while we're on the subject of Wes Anderson...I just love his films. I know it sounds cheesy but Wes Anderson is one of those directors that just gives me the warm fuzzies. Call me a softy, but his movies are just so damned lovable that there's no other way to describe how I feel about them.

 

[cerealkiller182]

I'll probably get some flack for this but Zack Snyder.

I think he has great style, but still has to work on substance. The only substance apparent in his films is the substance that is already present considering hes done one remake and 2 adaptations (one of which is yet to come out) and the substance of Dawn of the Dead and 300 isnt all that great. Hes not the best but i think he is an up and comer with a lot of potential so i am giving him a shout out. I want to see him tackle an original screenplay with more substance in it. I think Sucker Punch (which could incorporate his style with substance for a good transition) and The Last Photograph (sounds like a challenge for Snyder) have potential to be really interesting.

 

[The Amazing Lee]

Not strictly American, but current directors I think are going far:
david Fincher
Edgar Wright
Alfonso Cauron
The Coen Brothers
Peter Jackson
Brad Bird
Pedro Almodovar
Martin Scorsese
Guillermo del Toro
Chris Nolan
danny Boyle
Michael Mann
Shane Meadows

 

[dude stannis]

Bryan Singer doesn't remind me of Spielberg or Cameron at all, he strikes me as being forced into set pieces rather than loving them, he reminds me more of Roman Polanski in his style.

But his actions scenes have gotten more praise than the other CB films. I.E. The White House, Wolverine taking out the special forces and Superman saving the plane are still mentioned.

I think he enjoys doing them. Watching the SR's exras he seemed to enjoy doing the plane scene.

 

[Hunter Rider]

But his actions scenes have gotten more praise than the other CB films. I.E. The White House, Wolverine taking out the special forces and Superman saving the plane are still mentioned.

I think he enjoys doing them. Watching the SR's exras he seemed to enjoy doing the plane scene.

I wouldn't say any of those scenes have gotten anymore praise than the desert sequence in Hulk, the Train sequence and bank sequence in SM2, the huge chase sequence in TDK, and really that covers the only other CBM's not sat in the lower end of the spectrum.

I think he has a terrible knack for shooting his load way to early in his pacing when it comes to action and he just seems to stick it in b/c the genre calls for it, not b/c he's a kid in a candy store like Carmeron or Spielberg.

 

[Pickle-El]

No film has ever effected me on the personal level that Into the Wild did. It was one of the most inspiring experiences of my life.

Absolutely agree.

 

[Addendum]

Oh, and while we're on the subject of Wes Anderson...I just love his films. I know it sounds cheesy but Wes Anderson is one of those directors that just gives me the warm fuzzies. Call me a softy, but his movies are just so damned lovable that there's no other way to describe how I feel about them.

The only movie of his I've seen was Rushmore and I thought it pretty good.

I've just not gotten around to seeing his others

 

[cerealkiller182]

The only movie of his I've seen was Rushmore and I thought it pretty good.

I've just not gotten around to seeing his others

I actually think Rushmore is his worst movie.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

Anyone else think that Vincent Gallo is way too pretentious? I mean, his personality has actually prevented me from enjoying his films. Sometimes I wonder if his films are as bad as I think they are, or if I'm just watching them and constantly thinking about how much of an obnoxious prick he is.

 

[Apollo]

Yea definitely Steven Spielberg and Martin Scorsese.

 

[cerealkiller182]

Anyone else think that Vincent Gallo is way too pretentious? I mean, his personality has actually prevented me from enjoying his films. Sometimes I wonder if his films are as bad as I think they are, or if I'm just watching them and constantly thinking about how much of an obnoxious prick he is.

yes, a little. He seems to stay out of the media for the most part though. I have rarely seen his movies or his appearances. What bothers me most is him being bothered by the MPAAs rating. I never thought I would side with the MPAA, but he doesnt treat sex like say Kevin Smith. Advertising unsimulated oral sex in ones movie will turn heads and almost certainly cause controversy and he seemed to play a little defenseless, as if he was going to get ganged up on. Its hard to get a read on him i think though.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Anyone else think that Vincent Gallo is way too pretentious? I mean, his personality has actually prevented me from enjoying his films. Sometimes I wonder if his films are as bad as I think they are, or if I'm just watching them and constantly thinking about how much of an obnoxious prick he is.

Hmm. Never heard of him. *googles*

Ah, I see. He looks like an Italian model.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

yes, a little. He seems to stay out of the media for the most part though. I have rarely seen his movies or his appearances. What bothers me most is him being bothered by the MPAAs rating. I never thought I would side with the MPAA, but he doesnt treat sex like say Kevin Smith. Advertising unsimulated oral sex in ones movie will turn heads and almost certainly cause controversy and he seemed to play a little defenseless, as if he was going to get ganged up on. Its hard to get a read on him i think though.

I mostly take issue with his racism, homophobia, and his hatred of all things that are not American. Even if it is just an act, it's an offensive act. And his films aren't nearly good enough to warrant his proclamations of his own genius. He just rubs me the wrong way. And like I said, his films are just not that good. I have to admit, they're not terrible, but when you realize what a *****e bag he is, you tend to have a bias against them.

 

[cerealkiller182]

I mostly take issue with his racism, homophobia, and his hatred of all things that are not American. Even if it is just an act, it's an offensive act. And his films aren't nearly good enough to warrant his proclamations of his own genius. He just rubs me the wrong way. And like I said, his films are just not that good. I have to admit, they're not terrible, but when you realize what a *****e bag he is, you tend to have a bias against them.

I had no idea of his racism and homophobia, but American hatred, thats a dime a dozen

 

[Sarge 2.0]

Oh you misread my post. He loves America. He hates anything that is not American.