Who in DC or Marvel would give Goku a good fight?

[Ultra-Herald9]

Spiderman was worn out from the fight from venom plus bad writing got the best of spidey again

You say that like Spider-Man is powerful! Spider-Man has been defeated PLENTY OF TIMES!!!

 

[Jplaya2023]

You say that like Spider-Man is powerful! Spider-Man has been defeated PLENTY OF TIMES!!!

1. Spiderman is tied with batman as the 2nd greatest fighter in fiction

2. Bad writing on the author parts

3. Spiderman holds back in every fight for fear of killing his opponent

 

[Ultra-Herald9]

1. Spiderman is tied with batman as the 2nd greatest fighter in fiction

2. Bad writing on the author parts

3. Spiderman holds back in every fight for fear of killing his opponent

WHAT THE HECK!!!! Spider-man isn't even that great a fighter! He made a fighting style that works for him incorperating his agility and strength! He's nowhere near Captain America or even Daredevil's fighting skill! Thier are so many characters that are better fighters than Spider-Man!

Second Batman isn't even the best fighter in the DC universe! I could list a load of fighters that can and have owned Batman in fair hand to hand fights!

Spider-Man only holds back when facing someone weaker than himself! He usually uses all his strength when fighting someone with durability enough to withstand is blows!

Pick up some comics seriously! You just treat your pesonal favorite characters like they are the most powerful characters in comics. Oh and Goku isn't even the best in his universe!

 

[Jplaya2023]

WHAT THE HECK!!!! Spider-man isn't even that great a fighter! He made a fighting style that works for him incorperating his agility and strength! He's nowhere near Captain America or even Daredevil's fighting skill! Thier are so many characters that are better fighters than Spider-Man!


spiderman has owned DD and CA numerous times

Second Batman isn't even the best fighter in the DC universe! I could list a load of fighters that can and have owned Batman in fair hand to hand fights!

That list would be a farse. No one is better than batman


Spider-Man only holds back when facing someone weaker than himself! He usually uses all his strength when fighting someone with durability enough to withstand is blows!

Nah he holds back if he ever got serious he could kill guys like hulk juggy with a highspeed combination

Pick up some comics seriously! You just treat your pesonal favorite characters like they are the most powerful characters in comics. Oh and Goku isn't even the best in his universe!

No it just so happens my favs are the best. I cant help that

 

[Ultra-Herald9]

OMG......................

Jplaya is really serious.......

I'm so sorry about your lack of comic knowledge.....I assumed you actually knew about comics again I'm sorry. You clearly show that you have no knowledge of comics when you said these things. Let me inform you....


1.Spiderman isn't even class 50.....Juggernaut(even the weak current one) and Hulk(not even enraged) could easily knock out spider-man.

2.Karate Kid is the best martial artist in the DC universe shown so far.

 

[Jplaya2023]

1.Spiderman isn't even class 50.....Juggernaut(even the weak current one) and Hulk(not even enraged) could easily knock out spider-man.

spiderman's punching power >>> his strength

2.Karate Kid is the best martial artist in the DC universe shown so far.

no i'll go with batman he knows over 127 forms of martial arts, sparring, ninjutso, taijutso, etc..

 

[Ultra-Herald9]

no i'll go with batman he knows over 127 forms of martial arts, sparring, ninjutso, taijutso, etc..

Karate Kid has mastered every martial art in the universe as a teenager!

Hulks and Juggernauts punching power DWARF spideys easily!

 

[CBG]

Karate Kid mastered all 127 styles -- and MORE, in the 30TH CENTURY.

Richard Dragon
Cassandra Cain
Lady Shiva
Bronze Tiger
Constantine Drakon
Connor Hawke
Batman

If I were to include metas, Deathstroke would be above Batman.

 

[CBG]

spiderman's punching power <<< his strength

Corrected.

Hell, I bet you haven't even read Spider-Man: The Other.

Morlun beat Peter to death, despite GIVING IT HIS ALL. Heck, Morlun beat him so badly, Peter's corpse was missing an eye, and his face was beaten beyond recognition by the media (the paramedics unmasked him).

 

[Ultra-Herald9]

Karate Kid mastered all 127 styles -- and MORE, in the 30TH CENTURY.

Richard Dragon
Cassandra Cain
Lady Shiva
Bronze Tiger
Constantine Drakon
Connor Hawke
Batman

If I were to include metas, Deathstroke would be above Batman.

He's right. Believe it or not I was gonna post most of these guys too but I knwe Jplaya would say "Bhatman Zuper lol pwns allzzzz". So I went for the best I knew of the top of my head!

 

[Ultra-Herald9]

Corrected.

Hell, I bet you haven't even read Spider-Man: The Other.

Morlun beat Peter to death, despite GIVING IT HIS ALL. Heck, Morlun beat him so badly, Peter's corpse was missing an eye, and his face was beaten beyond recognition by the media (the paramedics unmasked him).

He's gonna say bad writing.

 

[Sloth7d]

This is getting ridiculous.

 

[Endless Mike]

Dude, your an Ass an uninformed one at that.

Flash ABSORBED the ENTIRE speed of the world and even absorbed another speedster's speed named Krakel to do that. Flash under his own ability is no where near that.

LOL! It took Flash FOUR pages to reach lightspeed and actually hit him and he didn't really punch him technically. He ran right into him with is fist outstretched.

Flash got motion sickness from Zum's After Images, something Goku can do easily in his sleep since he was a CHILD

Flash loses.

For the last time, it was a strobe light, brightly flashing lights combined with afterimages to disorient him. You keep ignoring this. He said he could punch him 1000 times in a second, and in the chain lightning arc, he reacted at attosecond intervals.

Combat speed is simply a combination of travel speed + reaction speed + perception speed. If you have all 3, you have combat speed.

 

[Phenomenal]

For the last time, it was a strobe light, brightly flashing lights combined with afterimages to disorient him. You keep ignoring this. He said he could punch him 1000 times in a second, and in the chain lightning arc, he reacted at attosecond intervals.

Combat speed is simply a combination of travel speed + reaction speed + perception speed. If you have all 3, you have combat speed.

So?

Strobe Flicker is an After Image, the fact that Flash couldn't cope with that speed shows that Gokuu will easily dance around him. Flash took FOUR pages to reach lightspeed and that is too slow against a Saiya-jin who specializes in high speed combat.

Flash has NO combat speed, he does not stand their and trade blows at Super Speeds. Flash runs around all of the time. Hell, he even had to run halfway across the world to charge up and hurt Gorilla Grodd.

Goku kill's the Flash in an instant.

 

[Sloth7d]

If Goku powers up flash will be sent flying several feet.-Fact

 

[Endless Mike]

So?

Strobe Flicker is an After Image, the fact that Flash couldn't cope with that speed shows that Gokuu will easily dance around him. Flash took FOUR pages to reach lightspeed and that is too slow against a Saiya-jin who specializes in high speed combat.

Flash has NO combat speed, he does not stand their and trade blows at Super Speeds. Flash runs around all of the time. Hell, he even had to run halfway across the world to charge up and hurt Gorilla Grodd.

Goku kill's the Flash in an instant.

Did you just ignore what I said?

It was a brightly flashing light at superspeed combined with afterimages, blinding him.

Flash could punch the guy 1000 times in a second, and the guy was a lightspeed fighter himself. That's way beyond anything in DBZ, ever.

 

[Endless Mike]

If Goku powers up flash will be sent flying several feet.-Fact

No, because before Goku's neurons can even fire, Flash would have vibrated through his brain and made it explode.

 

[Sloth7d]

No, because before Goku's neurons can even fire, Flash would have vibrated through his brain and made it explode.

Flash wouldn't have a chance because the energy output wouldn't allow him get close.

 

[Phenomenal]

Did you just ignore what I said?

It was a brightly flashing light at superspeed combined with afterimages, blinding him.

Flash could punch the guy 1000 times in a second, and the guy was a lightspeed fighter himself. That's way beyond anything in DBZ, ever.

What bright lights blinding the Flash The After Images gave him motion sickness and he could not cope with them at all. Goku since he was a CHILD could do After Images in his sleep, Gokuu can dance around Flash like he was at the DDR Arcades.

Flash had to charge up FOUR pages to reach lightspeed and that is not going to help you against a Saiya-jin who can kill you in a blink of an eye. Gokuu beats him.

 

[Endless Mike]

Flash wouldn't have a chance because the energy output wouldn't allow him get close.

If Flash can break through the Anti - Monitor's armor, he can go through Goku's ki.

With his momentum something that simple couldn't stop him.

Besides, what part of 'Goku won't be able to do anything and won't even realize what hit him' do you not understand?

 

[Endless Mike]

What bright lights blinding the Flash The After Images gave him motion sickness and he could not cope with them at all. Goku since he was a CHILD could do After Images in his sleep, Gokuu can dance around Flash like he was at the DDR Arcades.

Flash had to charge up FOUR pages to reach lightspeed and that is not going to help you against a Saiya-jin who can kill you in a blink of an eye. Gokuu beats him.

Did you miss the light blobs, frequencies, and strobe flicker comment?

It was a blinding attack, clearly more than just afterimages, since Flash himself, Superman, Wonder Woman, hell, every DC top tier create after images all the time and Flash doesn't have trouble with them.

They were fighting all around the world at lightspeed, that's something above anything ever shown in DBZ, where fights always begin and end in the same area, no more than 20 or so kilometers away.

 

[Phenomenal]

Did you miss the light blobs, frequencies, and strobe flicker comment?

It was a blinding attack, clearly more than just afterimages, since Flash himself, Superman, Wonder Woman, hell, every DC top tier create after images all the time and Flash doesn't have trouble with them.

They were fighting all around the world at lightspeed, that's something above anything ever shown in DBZ, where fights always begin and end in the same area, no more than 20 or so kilometers away.

No a strobe Flicker is basically an After Image, where in the hell did you get the After Images blinding the Flash from.

Bwhahahahaha "they were fighting around the world at lightspeed." Your chatting garbage, they were no where near lightspeed doing that, did you forget It took Flash FOUR pages to reach lightspeed.

DBZ speed does not use useless movement like the Flash, basically you blink your dead.

 

[CBG]

STROBE

1. a device for studying the motion of a body, esp. a body in rapid revolution or vibration, by making the motion appear to slow down or stop, as by periodically illuminating the body or viewing it through widely spaced openings in a revolving disk.
2. Photography. a. Also called strobe, strobe light, stroboscopic lamp. a lamp capable of producing an extremely short, brilliant burst of light, for synchronization with a camera having a high shutter speed, in order to photograph a rapidly moving object, as a bullet, for such a short duration that it will appear to be standing still.
b. the device and equipment for holding and firing such a lamp.

3. such a lamp used for creating special lighting effects, as in a theater or discotheque or at a rock concert.

 

[Gotenks]

This is getting ridiculous.

Yeah its crazy, but fun to read.

 

[Endless Mike]

No a strobe Flicker is basically an After Image, where in the hell did you get the After Images blinding the Flash from.

Strobe flicker = bright flashing light.

Bwhahahahaha "they were fighting around the world at lightspeed." Your chatting garbage, they were no where near lightspeed doing that, did you forget It took Flash FOUR pages to reach lightspeed.

You do realize you just contradicted yourself, right?

DBZ speed does not use useless movement like the Flash, basically you blink your dead.

All of their movements will be useless when faced with someone who moves, thinks, and percieves things at a rate beyond anything they can even imagine. Flash raced around the entire universe in a matter of days, he outran Death by escaping to the end of time, I can go on. Just because he once was grabbed by Grodd when he had his back turned to him and wasn't even paying attention to Grodd and was busy worrying about Nightwing, and easily escaped a second later, hardly means that all of his feats mean nothing.