Who in DC or Marvel would give Goku a good fight?

[CBG]

Exactly, comic book dude doesnt even see the fallacy in his argument and contuining a losing battle.

You don't know me well.

But i'll be at the front lines waiting on him to make a move

I was there way back at NF after you posted that photoshopped scan of Superman/Batman #2.

 

[MSGohan]

For the record, Flash can react far faster than Goku. Before Goku can even think, Flash is already running.

For the record, Goku can react far faster than Flash. Before Flash can even think, Goku is already moving.

See I also have sk!llz in doing that.
Dude we won't get anywere by such statements, just don't state them, because they just piss the other part off, even if it's true.

 

[CBG]

Lol this is starting from scratch again.

Besides what Jplaya means is that it's stupid to compare characters like the way you do it.
You can't really compare a situation like, if I shoot Bruce Lee in the head with a shotgun while his sleeping, as a battle. This is just too stupid.

Understandable. But it still doesn't excuse that guns > Bruce Lee, however.

As cheap some characters are, it doesn't excuse that they > Goku or any DBZ character. At all.

The rest is oppinions, DBZ "haters" find lame excuses to ridiculousy downpower the fighters, and DBZ (extreme, in your definitions) fans would overpower the fighters, by other but just a valid excuses.

Understandable, but DBZ isn't the be all, end all of things in fiction. There are fictional characters, even universes, that are more powerful than DBZ. That is the truth.

 

[CBG]

For the record, Goku can react far faster than Flash. Before Flash can even think, Goku is already moving.

See I also have sk!llz in doing that.
Dude we won't get anywere by such statements, just don't state them,

He made his claim, I responded.

because they just piss the other part off, even if it's true.

But it is true though, for Flash.

 

[Jplaya2023]

You're imagination doesn't count as an audience.

From my experiences here on these boards, everyone ignores your opinions.

That's a front. I have received numerous PM's thanking me for bringing facts, canon, and objectivity to highly subjective board.


So? Luck of the draw.


luck of nothing. Fight fair.


NOT EVERY FICTIONAL CHARACTER IS A SAIYAN.

You dont have to be a saiyan to learn how to dodge ki blast comic book guy. Smarten up



For example, Mad Jim Jaspers vs. Goku. Mad Jim Jaspers has to conform to your definition of a fight, which means, fight like Goku, no reality warping. Of course, James loses.


reality warping != fighting

the definition of a fight:

Fighting: An act of engaging in physical contact between 2 or more opponents, in which punches, and kicks are being thrown until a victor is declared.

boxing = fighting because punches are thrown

martial arts = fighting because punches kicks slams are used

warping reality != fighting, no type of physical contact and opponent has no way of stopping it

Understand now?




That's as fair as you can get.


Fair is the definiiton explained above


I explained it above.

As have I

No, that's a very limited definition of a fight under your terms.



Because he's at awe that he lost.

nothing is limited, its the strict definition taken from various sources

lets see goku and flash race

*shots fired* *goku is instantly at the finish line while flash is still running

goku wins

 

[MSGohan]

Understandable, but DBZ isn't the be all, end all of things in fiction. There are fictional characters, even universes, that are more powerful than DBZ. That is the truth.

Well some consider DBZ to be above almost all. The reason to that would be because the DB manga is almost left for the viewers to interpret, and some thinks of them as gods others as just above normal humans. That wouldn't have been the case if the manga were more specific about the details like westeren comics are.

 

[Jplaya2023]

You don't know me well.

I know you well enough through various NF posters, telling me your very rude and bias in arguments. Never willing to concede losing arugment and always try to down people

I was there way back at NF after you posted that photoshopped scan of Superman/Batman #2.

prove its photoshopped and prove i alledgedly photoshopped it

 

[CBG]

That's a front. I have received numerous PM's thanking me for bringing facts, canon, and objectivity to highly subjective board.

Like what?

luck of nothing. Fight fair.

If that was ever true, muggings would be settled by the gunman and the victim 'fighting fairly'.

You dont have to be a saiyan to learn how to dodge ki blast comic book guy. Smarten up

*quotes*

You can block punches and kicks, and potentially block ki blast with goku's training regimine,

You yourself say otherwise.

reality warping != fighting

the definition of a fight:

Fighting: An act of engaging in physical contact between 2 or more opponents, in which punches, and kicks are being thrown until a victor is declared.

Yes, a HAND-TO-HAND fight.

By that definition, ki blasts not fighting.

boxing = fighting because punches are thrown

martial arts = fighting because punches kicks slams are used

warping reality != fighting, no type of physical contact and opponent has no way of stopping it

But it's a power.

If you excuse that, then Goku can't use ki blasts, since they are 'not fighting'

Understand now?

Your limited view of a fight.

Fair is the definiiton explained above

No, fair as I explained.

Otherwise, muggings would be decided by 'fair fights'. But that's not the case.

As have I

nothing is limited, its the strict definition taken from various sources

That is unable to accompany the fights done by certain fictional characters.

We can't fly or do any of the things certain fictional characters can do.

lets see goku and flash race

*shots fired* *goku is instantly at the finish line while flash is still running

goku wins

Correction, the shot's fired, Flash thinks and then moves and completes the race before Goku can think, least react.

If we're talking all-out, Flash steals his speed and uses the Speed Formula.

Flash still wins.

 

[CBG]

I know you well enough through various NF posters, telling me your very rude and bias in arguments. Never willing to concede losing arugment and always try to down people

Now I know you're certainly as arrogant and self-conceited as you are.

If I wanted to, I can bring up several threads that heartily says otherwise regarding your attempt of a smear campaign on me. But I rather not.

At least I'm didn't insult an entire forum like you.

prove its photoshopped and prove i alledgedly photoshopped it

Oh, you know what I'm talking about. So does certain posters at NF when you first came.

 

[MSGohan]

But it is true though, for Flash.

It's an oppinion accepted by many with good reasons.
However if Goku's speed was specified very clearly, like in some panel stating some really specific information about Goku's speed, as it usually is case with Flash for example, then everyone would agree on wether Flash would be faster or not. By comparing it with some of Flash's feats described in details in some panel, like it is usually done in the comics.

But in this case people should be able to agree to disagree.

 

[CBG]

It's an oppinion accepted by many with good reasons.
However if Goku's speed was specified very clearly, like in some panel stating some really specific information about Goku's speed, as it usually is case with Flash for example, then everyone would agree on wether Flash would be faster or not. By comparing it with some of Flash's feats described in details in some panel, like it is usually done in the comics.

But in this case people should be able to agree to disagree.

Understandable. Though, there are certain things that can't be disagreed.

 

[CBG]

Oh, Jplaya2023. I found it.

prove its photoshopped and prove i alledgedly photoshopped it

Fine.

http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=5238091&postcount=855

And in case you edit it:

Spoiler

And the link is:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/jplaya2023/supesownedagain5cw.jpg

A printscreen, if anyone ever saw one. Also note, the link has your name in it.

And the full, unedited scan is:

Spoiler

 

[Jplaya2023]

Oh, Jplaya2023. I found it.



Fine.

http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=5238091&postcount=855

And in case you edit it:

Spoiler

And the link is:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/jplaya2023/supesownedagain5cw.jpg

A printscreen, if I ever saw one. Also note, the link has your name in it.

And the full, unedited scan is:

Spoiler

the only thing i did was add that captain on it. Dunny

 

[MSGohan]

I thought he had changed this line:

You know what I got sick of, Bruce? You kicking the CRAP out of me with your TOYS.

But it's the same on the original scan, which was Jplaya's point?

 

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Anyone at Superman / Thor's level or above would destroy any Z-fighter.

 

[CBG]

the only thing i did was add that captain on it. Dunny

And white out two blurbs of texts.

The caption "Superman owned again" I can care less.

But those two texts you whited out, that was deliberate.

But it's the same on the original scan, which was Jplaya's point?

The blurbs of texts that's been omitted.

 

[MSGohan]

How people put Thor at Superman's level is really beyond me. Here is a little pwnage by Spidey

http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Thor_44717.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Thor_44801.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Thor_44802.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Thor_44803.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Thor_44804.jpg
http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v44/guyverjay/Thor_44805.jpg

 

[CBG]

Is that Eric Masterdon as Thor?

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Yeah, because Superman was never sneak attacked without ANY harm, and never attacked by a teammate at a high level he was trying to help out.

I deem those links, misleading.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Nay I say thy...I'd still side with Goku...

Nay thee I say.

 

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Thor is at 100-class strenght, he can move at 300 times the speed of light, and he can use magic's.
Gokou would be nothing but smear on his fist after he is done with him.

And what you witnessed there was PIS, it's the explanation for the unexplainable.

 

[CBG]

I thought Thor fans just blamed it on Eric Masterdon.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Yeah, I agree with CBG, people who limit a fight are just silly, that's like saying no-one can beat flash, but only races count as fights.

That's what people call technicalities.


And the only situations technicalities are needed, is when rapists and murderers have nothing else, because the argument is WAY too stacked against them.


I agree, this thread should have died long ago.

 

[SSJ4_Mikael]

I thought Thor fans just blamed it on Eric Masterdon.

Thor has fans?!

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Thor is at 100-class strenght, he can move at 300 times the speed of light, and he can use magic's.
Gokou would be nothing but smear on his fist after he is done with him.

And what you witnessed there was PIS, it's the explanation for the unexplainable.

A little misleading.

Thor doesn't really move at THAT high speed. And when he does move at high speeds, they're one directional via hammer. He mostly teleports himself around.

His magics are limited to what his hammer will allow. Dispelling, and storm casting are his main ones.