Who in DC or Marvel would give Goku a good fight?

[Guyverjay]

How is SSJ3 the omnipotent version of Goku????

Btw that isn't your answer you got that from the thread Lordcrom made conveintly a few minutes ago

 

[Krpton]

i havent been on the dc thread yet

 

[Krpton]

LOL!!!

jay, i can honestly say that i never copied no one, lol wht i coincidence the last bit ended similiar, it cant be cuz i never visited the dc board, i went to straight to dragonball board.

omg, cant believe it, i swear i never copied, lol. cant believe dat.

out of all time, i posted after him i think.

lol, c'mon u must believe me.

 

[GammaBeast]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the sword of superman not part of his continuity at all?

 

[Krpton]

so jay, do u agree that pre crisis supes >>>ssj3 goku?

 

[Langoth]

Personally, I don't think Krpton knows **** about DBZ, and really shouldn't partake in this argument, as he obviously has no clue the extents of the peoples' powers.

Here are a list of characters that would defeat any form of Superman-

Goku
Gogeta
Vegito
Super Buu
Mystic Gohan
Brolly
Garlic jr. (as long as he isn't ******ed enough to open the deadzone)


Those are just characters from DBZ and its movies, let alone GT.

The speed that DBZ characters move at by the Cell games is so mind numbling fast, they might as well just be moving the universe to get where they want to go. As when they were 10-30 times weaker in the Frieza Saga, they were breaking the Speed of Light.

Hell Super Buu would just absorb Super-man-*****.

Kryton, you obviously have no clue as to the extend of DBZ characters, and seem to be too fixated on how 'godly' Crisis Superman is, that you have no clue as to even understand the full extend of these guys abilities.

Buu able to blow up planets with absolutely no effort for instance. Vegito beating Buu with no effort.

Its almost disgraceful half the arguments and 'facts' you brought up.

 

[Krpton]

Personally, I don't think Krpton knows **** about DBZ, and really shouldn't partake in this argument, as he obviously has no clue the extents of the peoples' powers.

Here are a list of characters that would defeat any form of Superman-

Goku
Gogeta
Vegito
Super Buu
Mystic Gohan
Brolly
Garlic jr. (as long as he isn't ******ed enough to open the deadzone)


Those are just characters from DBZ and its movies, let alone GT.

The speed that DBZ characters move at by the Cell games is so mind numbling fast, they might as well just be moving the universe to get where they want to go. As when they were 10-30 times weaker in the Frieza Saga, they were breaking the Speed of Light.

Hell Super Buu would just absorb Super-man-*****.

Kryton, you obviously have no clue as to the extend of DBZ characters, and seem to be too fixated on how 'godly' Crisis Superman is, that you have no clue as to even understand the full extend of these guys abilities.

Buu able to blow up planets with absolutely no effort for instance. Vegito beating Buu with no effort.

Its almost disgraceful half the arguments and 'facts' you brought up.

Well Pre-Crisis Supermanis more faster, stronger and more durable, whats so hard about that to understand?

Superman turned back time, the only thing Goku would be doin is eating supes pre-crisis dust.

 

[Langoth]

Funny, but turning back time doesn't mean ****, look what happened to pool guido? LOL

And note, DBZ characters could thearetically do the same, as they move many multiples the speed of light, just like your precious pre-crisis superman.

Oh wait, he only goes 99% the speed of light? Oh, yea, that's what DC said. *slaps forehead* I completely forgot!

Sorry pal, and please, tell me how he beats Garlic jr? Fighting an immortal... good luck Kent, you'll need it.

Not to mention, don't even start on durability, these guys take blasts that destroy whole worlds, and Super Buu could never be killed by Superman, as he does not have energy blasts. (You need those to kill Buu you know, as if you throw him into the sun, he'll blow it up, and SURVIVE! And guess what? That means no power for Kent!)

Oh and one more thing, if you say its BS that Buu blows up stars, guess again, he's destroyed whole sets of galaxies, three to be perice, in DBZ, that's 12 galaxys.

 

[Krpton]

And note, DBZ characters could thearetically do the same, as they move many multiples the speed of light, just like your precious pre-crisis superman.

then y didnt gotenks who is stronger than goku, reverse time when he went around the world multiple times. pre-crisis supes also time travels with his speed but nowdays only flash can do it. then y did bulma make a time machine for trunks to come into the future, because they cant time travel or reverse time, simple.
btw u just cant be multiple times faster than the speed of light, u have to be gazillion billion trillion million times the speed of light. which goku isnt, then instead goku can just reverse time when somethig wrong happens, but oh yeh i forgot he cant do that.


Oh wait, he only goes 99% the speed of light? Oh, yea, that's what DC said. *slaps forehead* I completely forgot!

do u know the difference between post-crisis and pre-crisis?
well post crisis is 99% the speed of light. then how in the blue hell did supes reverse time?


Not to mention, don't even start on durability, these guys take blasts that destroy whole worlds, and Super Buu could never be killed by Superman, as he does not have energy blasts. (You need those to kill Buu you know, as if you throw him into the sun, he'll blow it up, and SURVIVE! And guess what? That means no power for Kent!)

even if goku does take planet etroying blasts, goku gets mashed up still, he gets injured and bleeds from it. while superman absorbs enough energy to take a galaxy without even gettin his hair messed up, it was like nothing to him, didnt even faze him or anything. so that just prooves supermans durability>>>>>gokus.



Sorry pal, and please, tell me how he beats Garlic jr? Fighting an immortal... good luck Kent, you'll need it.

Oh and one more thing, if you say its BS that Buu blows up stars, guess again, he's destroyed whole sets of galaxies, three to be perice, in DBZ, that's 12 galaxys.

is this fight about supes vs garlik junior? NO!, is this fight about supes vs buu! NO!, get this, this fight is about superman vs goku, WOW!.

btw buu just blew up a couple of planets, and he cant detroy 1 galaxy in one blast. and supes would prob punch buu to the sun, sun>>>energy, after all where do the z fighter get their enrgy from?

 

[Langoth]

Dude, you are a ****ing idiot.

LISTEN TO THE DBZ STORY AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND

Not to mention, did you even listen to the Supreme Kai talk about Buu? Buu destroyed three other Galaxy formations. They belonged to the other kais, and they are dead.

READ, OR WATCH THE ACTUAL SERIES YOU FOOL

As I said, you have no clue as to what you are talking about, your a blabbering flamer.

As for Gotenks, he was not moving at his full speed. DBZ characters while in travel don't move at their top speed, only during combat do they move at the speed where they bend light around them. (When they phase out basically, don't ask me WHY Akira Toryama designed it like that)


I can barely tolerate to continue this.

Note, most of the new facts you brought up, are just ones that were disproven before, GOOD JOB!

 

[XSpidercideX]

Post-Crises superman = Cell saga SSJ2 Gohan.
Pre-Crises superman = Post GT SSJ8 Goku.

End of story.

 

[GammaBeast]

Originally posted by XSpidercideX
Post-Crises superman = Cell saga SSJ2 Gohan.
Pre-Crises superman = Post GT SSJ8 Goku.

End of story.

Post crisis supes is beneath SS1 Goku, easily, and if pre-crisis were that powerful he would cause a typhoon every time he blinked his eyes.

As for Krpton's statement about Goku still getting beaten up, if anything that is proof of his strength. If he can withstand attacks that destroy planets, yet this guys can physically hurt him. They must be incredibly strong, Goku is also able to hurt them back and surpass them in strength.

 

[Langoth]

When people clash in DBZ, punches send shockwaves out for kilometers that are capable of destroying buildings and solid granit (ex- See Frieza Saga, Buu Saga)

That is from them PUNCHING one another, punches that is so strong that it causes explosive shockwaves. Right there should be another example of how strong they are. You have to be stronger then the Juggernaut to cause that kind of punching power, in MID AIR TOO!

Superman doesn't cause those with regular punches and kicks.

 

[XSpidercideX]

Ok, maybe I gave supes too much. I was just doing that to appease the Super-man fanboys. Anyway, I think Post Crisis Superman would actually be on par with Frieza in his second form, (the one with the horns). Maybe after a sunbath he could be evenly matched with Frieza's final form.

Pre-crisis I think would be evenly matched with SSJ4 Gogeta.

 

[XSpidercideX]

Originally posted by XSpidercideX
Ok, maybe I gave supes too much. I was just doing that to appease the Super-man fanboys. Anyway, I think Post Crisis Superman would actually be on par with Frieza in his second form, (the one with the horns). Maybe after a sunbath he could be evenly matched with Frieza's final form.

Pre-crisis I think would be evenly matched with SSJ4 Gogeta.

SSJ4 Gogeta by the way (what I like to think he is) should be about 15 billion, a little under SSJ7 Goku's pl. Which is 20 billion. If Gogeta could reach SSJ10, he would be about 500 trillion.

 

[GammaBeast]

SS4 Gogeta was weaker than the final Goku. Goku's power had increased sufficiently that he was above his former combined power with Vegeta.

You keep pulling up the number 15 billion, where are you getting that number? The only figured I've seen place Goku as the only one ever to pass 1 billion.

 

[Hawkeye3500]

I don't think there is any reason to be comparing SUperman to the made up SSJ levels by xSpidercidex, because like I said, they are made up. Heck, I barely even consider GT relevant because it was not created by Toriyama.

 

[XSpidercideX]

Its all made up. Even Superman.

 

[Krpton]

Dude, you are a ****ing idiot.

LISTEN TO THE DBZ STORY AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND

y u insultin me 4, easy, this is just an argument, y u gettin personal?


Not to mention, did you even listen to the Supreme Kai talk about Buu? Buu destroyed three other Galaxy formations. They belonged to the other kais, and they are dead.

the thing is buu doesnt do all that in one blast, he can only do a planet at a time in one ki blast.


READ, OR WATCH THE ACTUAL SERIES YOU FOOL

i do, y u callin me a fool, is it cuz wht i said is true.


As I said, you have no clue as to what you are talking about, your a blabbering flamer.

if i didnt, u wouldnt be arguing with me right now.


As for Gotenks, he was not moving at his full speed. DBZ characters while in travel don't move at their top speed, only during combat do they move at the speed where they bend light around them. (When they phase out basically, don't ask me WHY Akira Toryama designed it like that)

ur speculating now, u dont know of that was his top speed or not, but anyway goku ssj3 still cant be faster than gotenks. then y dont goku just turn back time when things go wrong, it doesnt take time because they are moving beyond the speed of light (which i disagree with), but anyway ur saying goku ssj3 speed >>>pre-crisis superman? ur prob the only one i know who says this.



I can barely tolerate to continue this.

me neither...

Note, most of the new facts you brought up, are just ones that were disproven before, GOOD JOB!

no it hasnt, stop chattin bs.



As for Krpton's statement about Goku still getting beaten up, if anything that is proof of his strength. If he can withstand attacks that destroy planets, yet this guys can physically hurt him. They must be incredibly strong, Goku is also able to hurt them back and surpass them in strength. - gammabeast

so ur saying supermans strength<<<<ssj3 gokus strength?
ok can ssj3 goku move planets? hell no.

 

[GammaBeast]

Originally posted by Krpton
ur speculating now, u dont know of that was his top speed or not, but anyway goku ssj3 still cant be faster than gotenks. then y dont goku just turn back time when things go wrong, it doesnt take time because they are moving beyond the speed of light (which i disagree with), but anyway ur saying goku ssj3 speed >>>pre-crisis superman? ur prob the only one i know who says this.

This is the only one I can really tolerate addressing at the moment. The reason Goku doesn't turn back time is it would defeat the whole purpose of him fighting anyone. He could just run off, train then turn back time and do it again. That would get boring fast.

Answer me this, why doesn't supes turn back time every time something goes wrong? Answer is the same as for Goku, it is unecessary and would make for a boring story.

 

[Krpton]

still doesnt proove goku can turn back time.

 

[GammaBeast]

I never said it did.

But if moving faster than light allows superman to go back in time, then the same would apply for Goku if the two were to fight in a single place.

 

[MFM]

Whoa, Superman can't turn back time. That was in the movie, and has nothing to do with either Pre-Crisis or Post-Crisis Superman

 

[Krpton]

quick question, at wht saga do u think the z fighters reached the speed of light?

 

[Krpton]

Whoa, Superman can't turn back time. That was in the movie, and has nothing to do with either Pre-Crisis or Post-Crisis Superman

basically the movie superman is pre-crisis.