The Flash Who is the Man in the Iron Mask?

A bit disappointed that they went with the New 52 suit, but I'm glad they kept the helmet. For a second there I thought he was going to go with that weird mask-thing from the New 52.
no he hates that (thang) thing . I'm sure it stopped him from eating solid food which I'm sure alot of people won't want to ever see that mask like him ever again if they were in the same situation . I'm sure he won't eat liquid food for years to come ether. solids for life.
 
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A bit disappointed that they went with the New 52 suit, but I'm glad they kept the helmet. For a second there I thought he was going to go with that weird mask-thing from the New 52.

Well, they may have need to be a little different than Zoom's Jay suit, but it's really not Jay without the hat.
 
I'm so friggin excited by this. Absolutely made up. [BLACKOUT]Although I must admit that I was expecting Jay to be wearing the very same Flash outfit that Hunter had been wearing all this time - after all, he imprisoned him and stole his super-powered identity - wouldn't he have stolen his suit? [/BLACKOUT]Not that I'm actually complaining as I'm just psyched that it happened.
 
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Interesting that this Jay is from Earth 3, home of the Crime Syndicate and Johnny Quick.
 
It's great to see John Wesley Shipp run in the new series.
I'm so friggin excited by this. Absolutely made up. [BLACKOUT]Although I must admit that I was expecting Jay to be wearing the very same Flash outfit that Hunter had been wearing all this time - after all, he imprisoned him and stole his super-powered identity - wouldn't he have stolen his suit? [/BLACKOUT]Not that I'm actually complaining as I'm just psyched that it happened.
I know that feeling.
 
Jay was never active on Earth 2 at all, correct? So why did Zoom adopt Jay's persona on Earth 2? Just to play hero for a while?
 
I think that they swapped Earth-2 and Earth-3.

I think they are pulling the 'Main Earth is always the central Earth' card. So obviously the Arrowverse isn't the Earth 1 we know but I presume it exists out there. Similarly Jay Garrick isn't from the Earth 2 of the comics, he's from an Earth 2-alike Earth.
 
Interesting that this Jay is from Earth 3, home of the Crime Syndicate and Johnny Quick.

Hey buddy, just to point out the earth naming system is according to this earth that The Flash is in. So another universe could consider theirs to be earth 1. Heck even Jay Garricks earth could be considered as earth 1. It doesn't really matter....
 
I thought having Henry disappear for a while was stupid and then come back to be dead. That did not give any impact at all. Why would he go fishing other than the actors issues with shooting. They could've gave him more of a father son bonding time until he got killed, that would've added more of an effect.
 
Jay was never active on Earth 2 at all, correct? So why did Zoom adopt Jay's persona on Earth 2? Just to play hero for a while?

He said to instill hope in the people and they to take it away from them. Pretty much a satanic and psychotic motive. I love they went with that.
 
Disappointed they didn't go with the original costume though. I mean the giant emblem and his suit for some reason reminded me of the power rangers.
I also disliked how the helmet was not part of his own costume. I thought it would've been nice to say that Helmet was stolen from him by Zoom. So the flashback being his father being war hero turned abusive husband to be a lie. He could've just been an impoverished and uneducated abusive father...

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My wife hated that they killed Barry's dad last week. She was so mad she said she was in no hurry to watch last night's episode, so when we had to go out and wound up missing it she wasn't upset about it. I knew we could watch it ON DEMAND starting today, so I wasn't worried. Then early this morning some dweeb posted one of the Shipp as Flash gifs up above in a non Flash thread...it was reported for posting untagged spoilers....so I removed it and infracted the guy....but I was spoiled to the neat twist. In any case, I was able to talk my wife into watching it after she got off of work today....she is now very happy.
 
My wife hated that they killed Barry's dad last week. She was so mad she said she was in no hurry to watch last night's episode, so when we had to go out and wound up missing it she wasn't upset about it. I knew we could watch it ON DEMAND starting today, so I wasn't worried. Then early this morning some dweeb posted one of the Shipp as Flash gifs up above in a non Flash thread...it was reported for posting untagged spoilers....so I removed it and infracted the guy....but I was spoiled to the neat twist. In any case, I was able to talk my wife into watching it after she got off of work today....she is now very happy.

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Originally, I thought that Zoom's identity HAS to be that of Henry Allen (I still hold on to that theory a little) because it would make for a good juxtaposition - Henry freed of killing Nora, but his Earth 2 counterpart is on a murder spree.

HOWEVER, I have to take into account and acknowledge that The Flash has translated its villains from the comic quite well, even sticking to their civilian names/identities from the source material. Hunter Zolomon on Earth 1 seems like a normal guy and is apparently Jay's doppelganger. Somehow though, I'm starting to think Jay isn't all he seems.

I mean he said Zoom stole his speed, that's been his story all season, but then suddenly he "confesses" that he experimented with Velocity 6 previously and that caused him to lose his speed. He now has the working Velocity 9. I knew straight away that after Barry, Cisco & Wells returned from Earth 2, just by where he was standing, I knew Jay would get stabbed by Zoom and pulled back into the breach.

Anyway, if we re-tread season 1, Reverse Flash's true identity was a mystery until he confirmed he was, in fact, Eobard Thawne - sticking to the source material. This is why I think, apart from it being a potential red herring, the revelation of Hunter Zolomon is no mere coincidence. Hunter Zolomon of Earth 2 is Zoom.

Long story short, I think the creators/showrunners are finally giving us fan service, we just don't know it yet. What I mean is that the man in the iron mask is the real Jay Garrick, but he won't be Teddy Sears - he'll be John Wesley Shipp as "Geezer Flash."

I was right about everything.
Called it on February 22nd lol
 
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You spoiled it for a lot of people when you know it's such a huge spoiler. Why would you think it's okay to post it in a non Flash thread just because you've seen it? It's not like it had been out a while but only aired a few hours before. Not everyone can watch it live.
 
You spoiled it for a lot of people when you know it's such a huge spoiler. Why would you think it's okay to post it in a non Flash thread just because you've seen it? It's not like it had been out a while but only aired a few hours before. Not everyone can watch it live.

Honestly, I really feel bad about it. :csad: When I had posted it, I didn't think at first that there would be posters checking that thread that haven't already seen it. For what it's worth, it wasn't my intent to spoil it like that. I just wasn't thinking at the time. I'll definitely be sure to not do that again.
 
You spoiled it for a lot of people when you know it's such a huge spoiler. Why would you think it's okay to post it in a non Flash thread just because you've seen it? It's not like it had been out a while but only aired a few hours before. Not everyone can watch it live.

Herolee made a simple mistake in the moment, happens to all of us.
 
So freaking glad I was wrong on who the man in the iron mask was....I thought with all the Iris being with Barry, but mourning Eddie drama that was slowly creeping in that it was for sure E1 Eddie. No matter how convoluted they would have to explain his being alive. Just seemed they were setting up typical CW drama. PHEW

Really hope we see more next season of who was actually behind the mask. Would be awesome if he showed up in Legends S2 as well.
 

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