I'm trying not to make a big thing out of this, but i'm afraid that the more I want to discuss on this topic the more you are just going to tell me i'm wasting my time on a pointless thread. Why can't I add more to this topic without it sounding like i'm overeacting and taking it personally? Because right now it seems like I am, but that's only because I'm responding to you.
You know for the sake of the discussion, I would like to know your reasons for why you think there was more action in the first film? I'm just a little curious how you can rebut the evidence i gave. That's all I wanted in the first place.
i'm not overreacting. Sure, like you said, it's not an earth shattering debate, but nonetheless it is a debate. I'm just not convinced by your opinion because of the lack of evidence you provided.
I said, "don't make your point"? where?.......I felt like that the action provided in the first movie was in its content, in its set up, in the delivery was much more in the vein of solid action, than what I saw in the 2nd movie....most of the final scene was too dark to truly enjoy. The action near the "Great Wall of China" was laughable because of the bad lighting. Just because someone is wailing on someone else doesn't make it a viable action scene. The Eye scene, yes was very cool, but not having Thing totally wail on the villian for at least a scene or 2 just doesn't scream Fantastic Four action. The sequel has Thing hit Doom once, ONCE, this is a Fantastic Four movie and Thing hits the villain ONCE?????? thats ridiculous.....so lets break it down....
Wedding Scene vs. Bridge Scene.......(aside from the bad dalmation portion of the bridge scene) I thought the Bridge Scene was much stronger....BUT I think the reaction after the Wedding Scene was stronger than the end of the Bridge Scene.
The SS vs. Torch scene was a chase scene, I would not categorize that as an action scene, no more that I categorized the motocross scene as an action scene. The chase scene was cool to watch, but not much substance to it....
The Eye scene was interesting, but just not much to it. And again there was no battling the villian in that scene, it was a rescue scene...action was a part of it yes, but I think the audience would have been much more interested had the SS and Thing gone at it at least once during that time.
The forest scene was seen in the trailer over and over again, the 2 seconds of action in it that is.
Final Scene vs. Final Scene.........Which is pretty much what the audience remembers from action movies.....not even a comparison. The final scene in the sequel was so damn dark you could barely see it. I saw it in several different theatres, HD and regular......and it was dark in all of them. AND AGAIN, "one" hit from Thing to Doom.......that is pathetic.....no "its clobbering time" from Thing. Ridiculous. So IMO, there was no "clobbering time" in the sequel in comparison to the first movie.
BUT, thats not what I wanted to see in the sequel. I wanted to see better characterization, better relationship building, etc......and I got that in abundance, therefore I gave it a high B grade. Had the action been what it should have been, it might have gotten an A. But, the action, when it was supposed to be strong, was so damn dark, it made me wonder what they were hiding.
The reason I didn't feel the need to go into this, is because this has been debated at great length over the past few months, and reading the reviews would show you that.
AGAIN, I'm not giving a rebutal to your evidence, or whatever. I'm not trying to prove you wrong. Theres not a right or wrong here, its opinions. I'm fine with you giving your opinion. I have no problem with it whatsoever. I don't debate around here.....I'll discuss the issues, but I don't see a need to be right or wrong, or to win anything..........I leave that for politics, religion, and other important things. You seem to have more of a desire to be right than to simply discuss. I tend to shy away from that type of discussion. I'm not here to be right, I'm here to discuss.....and sorry, but I've discussed the hell out of this baby. I think many of us are simply tired at the moment.
And to again answer the question of the thread.
I preferred the 2nd movie. Because of the characterization, and building of relationships.......
. ROSS had so many action scenes that one could argue it was too much. However, while I enjoyed the first film the facts are that there really were only two action scenes as I stated. Could you have said that you preferred those 2 scenes over all the action scenes in ROSS, making the first film your favorite? sure, it's your opinion. I'm not being emotional because of your opinion, but because i don't agree with your facts.
moving on.
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