Who should be the next big bad to conquer after Thanos?

[Silver Surfer]

Who's that?

 

[Marvel united]

Doom, Kang or Norman Osborn

 

[Dark Raven]

That has got to be distracting sitting at a table trying to discuss something serious and having Emma Frost dressed like that.

 

[psylockolussus]

That has got to be distracting sitting at a table trying to discuss something serious and having Emma Frost dressed like that.

Only if they are attracted to her looks.

And she's not only one wearing a distracting costume. Like those horns are more distracting and Doom's get up as well.

 

[daddydivine]

The reason he is the premiere villain in the Marvel Universe is that everyone has fought him.

So it's FF vs Doom, Black Panther vs Doom, Dr Strange vs Doom, Spider-Man vs Doom, Avengers vs Doom etc. Lots of smaller skirmishes and battles. Then maybe at the end they take on a Doom who has stolen the power of a more powerful entity.

I feel like we'd definitely get Doom fatigue. Seriously, the same villian every movie? God no.

 

[psylockolussus]

I think he was making a point that Doom could be a threat to anybody and that Doom is a villain of a lot of Marvel heroes in the comics, not that he needs to be the villain in every film.

 

[Tg11]

Well if you want to stay with a cosmic level threat then it has to be Galactus

 

[Dark Raven]

I feel like we'd definitely get Doom fatigue. Seriously, the same villian every movie? God no.

He doesn't need to be the main villain in every movie. In some it can be a scene or two where he comes into conflict with the hero, but then they're fighting someone else. Or in others he could employ the villain to fight the hero. In others still, he can be behind the scenes moving pieces around like on a chessboard. They should be increasingly aware of him though instead of only finding out about him for the first time much later.

 

[Boom]

To use a Dragon Ball Z analogy:

Beyonder = Frieza
Doctor Doom = Vegeta

 

[Dark Raven]

To use a Dragon Ball Z analogy:

Beyonder = Frieza
Doctor Doom = Vegeta

I have no idea what that means.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

To use a Dragon Ball Z analogy:

Beyonder = Frieza
Doctor Doom = Vegeta

I don't agree. Frieza is a recurring main villain. Beyonder isn't really anyone's main.

Doom/Osborne = Frieza
Loki = Vegeta

Beyonder = Beerus

 

[First Avenger]

Actually I'd like to see multiple story threads involving:

DOOM
Galactus/Silver Surfer/other Heralds
Kang
Annihilus

 

[daddydivine]

I 100 percent believe Doom shouldn't be involved in all of the new phase movies. A reacurring villian in F4? Sure. A few mentions in other movies? Great. Definitely don't want every new phase movie to end with... "It was Doom all along!" The MCU doesn't need a Lex Luther.

 

[SpiderProtector]

Doctor Doom. They can build up Galactus like they did with Thanos in the meantime.

 

[Boom]

I have no idea what that means.

Beyonder would be the "big bad," whereas Doom is a recurring villain looking to supplant the big bad.

 

[Deck Rickard]

I remember there was this guy called "In-Betweener". I think it would be hilarious if that was the name of the greatest threat in the universe.

 

[Marvel united]

Didn't Doom kill the Beyonder? How is he/it big bad territory

 

[Dark Raven]

Didn't Doom kill the Beyonder? How is he/it big bad territory

He did not. He only thought he did. The Beyonder reclaimed his power. And the Beyonder set up the whole Secret Wars so of course he's big bad territory. If Captain Marvel kills Thanos, will that stop him being a big bad?

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I love Doom... But I think he shouldn't be the "build up" villain. And I am sorry but I would find, unless they come up with a REALLY unique angle, that Galactus is a retread of the singular villain aspect of Thanos only less interesting.

I think something like the Skrulls in a Secret Invasion arc is different and more a challenge and more interesting than just another singular all powerful villain. There's more complications. And for those that think that the CM movie totally put the kibosh on the Skrulls as antagonists, don't be too sure. Yeah, THOSE Skrulls were sympathetic but even Talos talks about having done terrible things in the fight against the Kree. This isn't an either or sort of conflict and so to with the idea of the Skrulls coming to Earth. We don't know what further transpired with the Skrulls as a whole in the MCU post CM. Or even what happened before that. Talos and his immediate group might be the victims of the Kree but we don't get the view of things from the leadership of the Skrulls as a whole. And again, who knows if the Skrulls are all hard luck cases or if Carol after finding them a home that more militant voices don't take control. Lots of ways you could still introduce Skrulls as a threat to Earth, while keeping them understandable even sympathetic in the MCU. I mean... What if they are looking at the end of their race for whatever reason? Say Galactus isn't the big bad but we see his actions kick off something that eventually affects Earth? Say the planet that CM brings the Skrulls becomes a haven for all persecuted Skrulls and they thrive for years and years... Only to have Galactus come and destroy that world and now they are homeless again. That's gonna change things socially and politically among them.


I can also see Kang as a big threat. If time travel/alternate timeline shenanigans are a part of AEG as seems to be the case then that's a perfect backdrop to justify Kang, who brings up all sorts of complications and interesting challenges to the MCU that isn't repeating the Thanos arc again in some way. A gloss on something like AVENGERS FOREVER with the Immortus side of Kang in play would also be something you could tease out over many films culminating with another big Avengers cross over film.


Again... I don't think Doom should be the build up villain. He should be in the FF film/s as their big bad... BUT... That doesn't mean he should not be a player in any big mega arc. Quite the contrary. Whether the bads are Skrulls, Kang or the Celestials coming to judge humanity, Doom should be a big player, perhaps sometimes allied with the heroes but always with his own agenda, whatever it may be. Much like the original Secret Wars I would have him as part of any story in some way only to emerge eventually as the final boss if you will. That's more interesting than he's just plainly the bad guy from the start that has to be stopped. Have the audience go on a ride same as the heroes, never trusting Doom but knowing he's too much of an asset in a given situation to dismiss aid from.

 

[InCali]

Doom I think. The question is how to handle him. I have this wish that post Endgame, we get a credits scene showing that Doom has been watching everything and is ready to make his move. You could even have the FF (no faces) or Reed and Ben watching/finding Doom. I agree there needs to be various villains. Of course, Galactus, Kang (one of my personal favs), etc. are really cool villains and the MCU is far, far better off in that regard than they were.

 

[Tg11]

Doom I think. The question is how to handle him. I have this wish that post Endgame, we get a credits scene showing that Doom has been watching everything and is ready to make his move. You could even have the FF (no faces) or Reed and Ben watching/finding Doom. I agree there needs to be various villains. Of course, Galactus, Kang (one of my personal favs), etc. are really cool villains and the MCU is far, far better off in that regard than they were.

Doom post credit scene would be awesome

 

[InCali]

Doom post credit scene would be awesome

I think it would be so cool to just see an armored hand and arm with a green cloak partially covering it and hearing a Vaderlink voice confirming that he's been watching.

 

[Tg11]

I think it would be so cool to just see an armored hand and arm with a green cloak partially covering it and hearing a Vaderlink voice confirming that he's been watching.

To make it even more cooler you could have him watching well lurking from the dark shadows and we don't see Doom's face or even his mask but we see a cloaked figure with the armored hand...BOOM Doom is set right there

 

[Web-Head]

Kang

 

[InCali]

To make it even more cooler you could have him watching well lurking from the dark shadows and we don't see Doom's face or even his mask but we see a cloaked figure with the armored hand...BOOM Doom is set right there

Yeah. Or even a view from a spaceship or castle with some hi-tech spy viewer. It'd be a great opportunity to hint at Reed too. I really liked how they brought in CM with Fury in IW.