Homecoming Who should reboot villain be? (Poll Version)

Reboot villain?

  • Green Goblin

  • Doctor Octopus

  • Kraven the Hunter

  • Mysterio

  • Vulture

  • Electro

  • Sandman

  • Lizard

  • Rhino

  • Shocker

  • Venom

  • Carnage

  • Scorpion

  • Morbius

  • Morlun

  • Other

  • Green Goblin

  • Doctor Octopus

  • Kraven the Hunter

  • Mysterio

  • Vulture

  • Electro

  • Sandman

  • Lizard

  • Rhino

  • Shocker

  • Venom

  • Carnage

  • Scorpion

  • Morbius

  • Morlun

  • Other


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Thats true, as long as the symbiote is brought from Infinity War. The reason why I want to get Venom early is because Infinity War is probably the best way to introduce the symbiote. I don't want another messy explanation ala Spider-Man 3.

But I see where you are coming from. Maybe have the symbiote introduced in Infinity War, and have it festering throughout the second solo movie with Kraven/etc. the main villain. Then at the end of that movie, tease the symbiote bonding with PP. Then have Venom as the main villain in the following (third) movie.

on another note, I really hope we see Carnage on the big screen one day. Maybe a Venom spin-off?

I agree it would be a huge missed opportunity to not have the symbiote brought back from Infinity War for a potential sequel. I'm just saying that Peter removing the symbiote and Venom fighting Spider-Man is too much to do in one film, as everyone knows (see Spider-Man 3).

My idea is to introduce the symbiote during Infinity War which would set up the second solo Spidey film in 2020. Spider-Man would already have the symbiote at the very beginning and wear it throughout the entire film while building up Brock and his career downfall. The climax sees Spider-Man remove the symbiote in the tower of a church, and post-credits we see Brock bonded to the symbiote to set up Venom in the third film.
 
I agree it would be a huge missed opportunity to not have the symbiote brought back from Infinity War for a potential sequel. I'm just saying that Peter removing the symbiote and Venom fighting Spider-Man is too much to do in one film, as everyone knows (see Spider-Man 3).

My idea is to introduce the symbiote during Infinity War which would set up the second solo Spidey film in 2020. Spider-Man would already have the symbiote at the very beginning and wear it throughout the entire film while building up Brock and his career downfall. The climax sees Spider-Man remove the symbiote in the tower of a church, and post-credits we see Brock bonded to the symbiote to set up Venom in the third film.

I don't think that necessarily is too much for one movie. It would have been different if sandman stayed gone and venom was the only threat.
 
I don't think that necessarily is too much for one movie. It would have been different if sandman stayed gone and venom was the only threat.

It's too much set up when you play that arc out in one film, but across couple films it's a good arc. You set up Brock as a secondary character then you put Peter in the suit for a film, and once the symbiote has been established you can have Venom in a future movie.
 
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Since the S6 movie is supposed to be out before Sony relaunches the Spidey solo film franchise itself in 2017 with Feige's pro bono producing services, getting more information about that film will probably tell us a lot about what villains might be likely to show up in the 2017 MCU Spidey film, which will probably link in with S6 in some capacity.
 
In the early stages, Marvel Studios will want to seem fresh and new. They'll probably stay away from previous villains, even the ones who were barely recognizable like Rhino and Venom. Mysterio seems like a good place to start, but Scorpion or Kraven wouldn't be bad choices either.
 
One thing I hope the MCU Spider-Man movies do is have more crime for Spider-Man to fight in his universe and make it an ongoing thing for Spider-Man to deal with. Make Spider-Man's superhero life as important as his life as Peter Parker is (which is where the fun of those lives conflicting is supposed to come from). Don't have the villain of the week syndrome that the Raimi trilogy had where they thought a mere thug like Sandman had to be turned into the real killer of Uncle Ben so he could be a main villain in a Spider-Man movie. Not every villain needs to have the same kind of relation to Peter that Venom and the Osborns do (or come from Oscorp like the Mark Webb ASM movies).
 
Mysterio, Kraven, and Scorpion seem more likely to show up in the S6 movie itself than the 2017 solo Spidey reboot film.
 
^ Sony has already confirmed that S6 is (still) happening, so, to quote Willy Wonka, "You get nothing. You lose. Good day sir."

Edit: I've just learned that S6 has been delayed, but that doesn't really change anything.
 
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^ Sony has already confirmed that S6 is (still) happening, so, to quote Willy Wonka, "You get nothing. You lose. Good day sir."

Edit: I've just learned that S6 has been delayed, but that doesn't really change anything.

While the S6 movie hasn't been "officially" cancelled I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for it to happen.
 
^ Sony has already confirmed that S6 is (still) happening, so, to quote Willy Wonka, "You get nothing. You lose. Good day sir."

Edit: I've just learned that S6 has been delayed, but that doesn't really change anything.
Oh my God, it's like you want Sony to have creative control; it's like you want Sony to make Sinister Six.
It's okay if you do, tho.
 
I am very thankful that the TASM films are not continuing. The Sinister Six movie is technically delayed at this point, but remember how Sony 'delayed' the Venom movie after Spider-Man 3? I personally consider Sinister Six to be in limbo along with the other spin-offs. At least if Sinister Six happens now it will be reworked to fit the MCU and the reboot series.
 
If they wanted to quietly kill it, the Marvel partnership would have been the perfect time to do so. But the report that it's still going to happen without the participation of Marvel happened after that announcement. That tells me that Sony is still seriously considering it in spite of everything. It's clearly getting delayed, of course, but the most logical reason for that is because they want the movie with Marvel to happen next (which Marvel presumably wants as well). Then, if it's profitable (as I'm sure they hope it is) they can go ahead with their spinoffs.
 
Before they can move on to spin-offs they have to really establish Spider-Man and give him a series of films first. Hopefully the S6 film does not happen until after at least 2 or 3 Spider-Man films.
 
^ Sony has already confirmed that S6 is (still) happening, so, to quote Willy Wonka, "You get nothing. You lose. Good day sir."

Edit: I've just learned that S6 has been delayed, but that doesn't really change anything.

it was pushed further so they can "rethink their plans". so it does change things

don't get me wrong, a Spider-man movie with sinister six is bound to happen eventually with how things are going now, but the Sinister Six movie with the villains as main characters is not such a sure deal yet
 
Before they can move on to spin-offs they have to really establish Spider-Man and give him a series of films first. Hopefully the S6 film does not happen until after at least 2 or 3 Spider-Man films.

that's what every Spider-man fan wants, but the general audience is unfortunately getting bored with solo Spider-man movies. The next one really has to hit it out of the park to reset Spidey's status as one of the big boys
 
that's what every Spider-man fan wants, but the general audience is unfortunately getting bored with solo Spider-man movies. The next one really has to hit it out of the park to reset Spidey's status as one of the big boys
People are only "bored" of solo Spider-Man movies because they have seriously declined in quality. They just need to make this next film top quality before worrying about spin-offs.
 
People are only "bored" of solo Spider-Man movies because they have seriously declined in quality. They just need to make this next film top quality before worrying about spin-offs.

I had a lot of friends that couldn't even understand the concept of the reboot. to a lot of people it's still the same series, so the next Spider-man film does have to be top notch to bring back the herd. I'm not saying that it's not possible, I'm just saying that this next Spider-man movie is gonna have it extra hard
 
I definitely agree with you there. This next film needs to be outstanding and be on the level of at least Iron Man 1.
 
The fact Sony is going to "reconsider" its plans for Sinister Six is enough proof for me that it ain't happening.
 
The fact Sony is going to "reconsider" its plans for Sinister Six is enough proof for me that it ain't happening.

Why?

Since they get to play in MS' 'sandbox' now, it makes sense that they'd take a step back and figure out how they can best capitalize on that with their own 'side project' films using the Spider-Man license.
 
Why?

Since they get to play in MS' 'sandbox' now, it makes sense that they'd take a step back and figure out how they can best capitalize on that with their own 'side project' films using the Spider-Man license.

I don't see the point. Why release Sinister Six one year before MCU Spidey debuts?
 
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