Homecoming Who should reboot villain be? (Poll Version)

[harryoscop]

Top 5 Spidey villains I'd like to see in the MCU:
(1) Green Goblin
(2) Venom
(3) Lizard
(4) Doc Ock
(5) Electro

Those are the villains I want to see the most.

 

[blake c]

Am I the only one not excited by Kraven? No offense to those who are. I really want Mysterio. I've wanted him for the past 3 Spider-man movies. Maybe with Shocker in it as well. I think that'd be interesting.

 

[Protar]

Green Goblin and Venom are pretty much guaranteed at some point. Spidey's got such a big rogues gallery compared to most other heroes (at least in terms of iconic villains) that it's going to be difficult to fit them all in. I would definitely like to see Green Goblin, Venom, Kraven, and Doctor Octopus in Phase 3/4. Maybe they could do a rogue's gallery transplant and have Mysterio in Doctor Strange? I'm not really familiar with Strange's rogue's gallery but that would be a good fit. A dual villain movie would be cool at some point - Vulture and Rhino?

 

[blake c]

The real answer here is to do a Thor and Spider-man team up movie with the Mongoose as the villain.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

Green Goblin and Venom are pretty much guaranteed at some point. Spidey's got such a big rogues gallery compared to most other heroes (at least in terms of iconic villains) that it's going to be difficult to fit them all in. I would definitely like to see Green Goblin, Venom, Kraven, and Doctor Octopus in Phase 3/4. Maybe they could do a rogue's gallery transplant and have Mysterio in Doctor Strange? I'm not really familiar with Strange's rogue's gallery but that would be a good fit. A dual villain movie would be cool at some point - Vulture and Rhino?

I think Green Goblin and Dr Octopus more guaranteed than Venom. They are bigger villains than him in Spidey rogues gallery.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

Am I the only one not excited by Kraven? No offense to those who are. I really want Mysterio. I've wanted him for the past 3 Spider-man movies. Maybe with Shocker in it as well. I think that'd be interesting.

I never liked Kraven.

And I'll tell you something else. I never liked "Kraven's Last Hunt" either.

I much rather see Vulture or Mysterio in the first film, with an intro to Norman Osborn (pre-Goblin) (and cast Bryan Cranston!) and maybe Dr. Octavius (pre-Doc Ock).

 

[GoldGoblin]

After watching the Robocop remake on Netflix last night,made me think.They should use that movie as a template to use the Scorpion.Make Mac Gargan a cop who gets blown up by the mob,Alistair Smythe is a famous robotics engineer who has robots in every country accept America because the politicians are against having robots here.

So Smythe wants to put a human in a robot suit,and he is busy looking for contenders.Then he finds Mac Gargan and uses him.The Scorpion could be a hero at first who goes after criminals,but as time goes by Mac Gargan goes mad from being a machine and the Scorpion starts killing criminals.

Spidey tries to stop him because he doesn't like the way Scorpion handles business.Allistair Smythe was getting votes to allow robots in America,but when the Scorpion starts murdering criminals,the politicians change their mind and Smythe shuts the Scorpion's suit down.

Mac Gargan goes to a prison where he goes even more mad as he is in a cell looking at a mirror where he just sees that he is just a head,lungs,trachea,and a hand.Unable to kill himself,he is basically in hell.

 

[I'm Batman.]

 

[Arach Knight]

The Scorpion could be a hero at first who goes after criminals,but as time goes by Mac Gargan goes mad from being a machine and the Scorpion starts killing criminals.

Spidey tries to stop him because he doesn't like the way Scorpion handles business.Allistair Smythe was getting votes to allow robots in America,but when the Scorpion starts murdering criminals,the politicians change their mind and Smythe shuts the Scorpion's suit down.

Been done already in a Superman movie.

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[spiderman2]

Top 5 Spidey villains I'd like to see in the MCU:
(1) Green Goblin
(2) Venom
(3) Lizard
(4) Doc Ock
(5) Electro

Those are the villains I want to see the most.

I basicly agree only I want to see kraven in stead of lizard.

 

[The Slang]

No, Jensen would've made a terrible Peter Parker/Spider-Man.

Spider-Man feared Venom, because Venom is what Peter could've been without people like Ben or May in his life. Add to that the mind games Brock played e.g. pushing Peter in front of that train. I could easily see Jensen as Brock, a guy who wasn't given the same opportunities as Peter so he cheated and stole to get his job. I see your point about the way Jensen looks, but I just feel like roles need to be given to actors because they can play the part better versus look the part better.

Ackles probably would make a terrible Parker, but he'd make an even worse Eddie Brock. Brock is not what Parker would be without his aunt and uncle. If you recall, Parker was selfish and pretentious right up until Ben died. "I'm looking out for number one" "everyone else can go rot for all I care" "They laughed at me, but I'll show them" he was a borderline narcissist with a persecution complex.
There was nothing particularly noble about Parker until he was faced with the guilt of causing Ben's death, and he wasn't particularly privileged or given any more opportunity than Brock was.

Brock is just a completely different person. For one he's no where near as smart as Parker. Ackles is just this generic cool guy with pretty boy looks. I see nothing in him that reminds me of Brock what so ever.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

Am I the only one not excited by Kraven? No offense to those who are. I really want Mysterio. I've wanted him for the past 3 Spider-man movies. Maybe with Shocker in it as well. I think that'd be interesting.

I be more excited for Mysterio than Kraven.

 

[TheSpectacular]

Neil Patrick Harris for Mysterio!

 

[harryoscop]

Neil Patrick Harris for Mysterio!

 

[Daedalus]

Neil Patrick Harris for Mysterio!

I think I would rather have someone else. A member had suggested Zachary Quinto for Mysterio in the past.

Also, if he hadn`t already been wasted in Agent Carter, James Frain.

 

[hippie_hunter]

IMO, they should just go all out for this Spider-Man film and take advantage of the size of Spider-Man's rogues gallery. Unlike Batman or the Flashs' villains, the majority of Spider-Man's core villains are rather stock and generic. While there are some exceptions like Norman Osborn and Doctor Octopus that have more fleshed out characterizations, most of Spidey's villains are just typical criminals/robbers.

But we can use this sheer size of Spider-Man's rogues gallery to demonstrate that we have a Spider-Man that is somewhat established and pretty much fully demonstrate that the film doesn't need to retread over the origin yet again. And without the need to focus on the characterization the villains, we can use that focus on Spider-Man and his large cast (Mary Jane Watson, Gwen Stacy, Harry Osborn, Miles Morales, Flash Thompson, J. Jonah Jameson, Felicia Hardy and Aunt May).

For the core villain of the series, I think it should be Norman Osborn played by Bryan Cranston. Rework Osborn and Oscorp to be the one who fills in the void created by the military industrial complex's loss of Tony Stark/Stark Enterprises and Justin Hammer/Hammer Industries. While having Oscorp be responsible for EVERYTHING the way they were in the Amazing Spider-Man series is stupid, I feel like they should be a major influence of the events going on. And I envision Norman Osborn to be an awesome mix of Lex Luthor meets the Joker.

And for the first film, I think the first villain should be not just one, but the Sinister Six. What better way to establish an established Spider-Man and to show just how he has dramatically changed New York City by having villains come together to plot to take down Spider-Man. And the roster of the Sinister Six should be Doctor Octopus, Sandman, Vulture, Electro, Mysterio, and Scorpion. They're hired by the Green Goblin to take on Spider-Man, but they're not Oscorp creations the way the villains were in the Amazing Spider-Man series. The Green Goblin wants to control them, but he can't. Spider-Man needs the help of Black Cat to take them all down....paves way for Black Cat spin-off film.

Second film, I think Spider-Man should get the black symbiote suit in Avengers: Infinity War to help take down Thanos. While the suit was useful in taking on Thanos, it has now made Spidey more aggressive and alienates him from his friends. He ditches the suit and Venom/Eddie Brock becomes the villain. Paves way for Flash Thompson/Venom spin-off film.

And final film a semi-two parter, ends with the showdown between Spider-Man and Norman Osborn. The results of the final battle leave Peter feeling defeated due to the death of Gwen Stacy and temporarily gives up being Spider-Man leading to a Miles Morales Spider-Man film who tries to pick up the pieces from there being no Spider-Man in New York City.

 

[GoldGoblin]

With Marvel in control,I think they could go beyond three movies.They can easily James Bond this series,we could easily have 20 great movies.We just can't rush things by cramming every villain,and every story into one movie leaving us no villains,or no stories left for future movies.

We have seen Venom,Green Goblin,Doc Ock,Sandman,Electro,Rhino,before.We can save all those guys for later movies.No need to use them right away,when we have a lot of villains that are just as good who we haven't seen before.

Mysterio,Kraven,Scorpion,Etc.

 

[I'm Batman.]

Ackles probably would make a terrible Parker, but he'd make an even worse Eddie Brock. Brock is not what Parker would be without his aunt and uncle. If you recall, Parker was selfish and pretentious right up until Ben died. "I'm looking out for number one" "everyone else can go rot for all I care" "They laughed at me, but I'll show them" he was a borderline narcissist with a persecution complex.
There was nothing particularly noble about Parker until he was faced with the guilt of causing Ben's death, and he wasn't particularly privileged or given any more opportunity than Brock was.

Brock is just a completely different person. For one he's no where near as smart as Parker. Ackles is just this generic cool guy with pretty boy looks. I see nothing in him that reminds me of Brock what so ever.

A good actor would make us believe the character he's trying to portray regardless of looks. And looks can be dealt with using the application of makeup and the costume (not just the suit, but also the street clothes used), anyone can be made to look close to what might be expected for a character. Look at Charlize Theron in Monster. She's usually gorgeous, but in that movie...

 

[harryoscop]

IMO, they should just go all out for this Spider-Man film and take advantage of the size of Spider-Man's rogues gallery. Unlike Batman or the Flashs' villains, the majority of Spider-Man's core villains are rather stock and generic. While there are some exceptions like Norman Osborn and Doctor Octopus that have more fleshed out characterizations, most of Spidey's villains are just typical criminals/robbers.

But we can use this sheer size of Spider-Man's rogues gallery to demonstrate that we have a Spider-Man that is somewhat established and pretty much fully demonstrate that the film doesn't need to retread over the origin yet again. And without the need to focus on the characterization the villains, we can use that focus on Spider-Man and his large cast (Mary Jane Watson, Gwen Stacy, Harry Osborn, Miles Morales, Flash Thompson, J. Jonah Jameson, Felicia Hardy and Aunt May).

For the core villain of the series, I think it should be Norman Osborn played by Bryan Cranston. Rework Osborn and Oscorp to be the one who fills in the void created by the military industrial complex's loss of Tony Stark/Stark Enterprises and Justin Hammer/Hammer Industries. While having Oscorp be responsible for EVERYTHING the way they were in the Amazing Spider-Man series is stupid, I feel like they should be a major influence of the events going on. And I envision Norman Osborn to be an awesome mix of Lex Luthor meets the Joker.

And for the first film, I think the first villain should be not just one, but the Sinister Six. What better way to establish an established Spider-Man and to show just how he has dramatically changed New York City by having villains come together to plot to take down Spider-Man. And the roster of the Sinister Six should be Doctor Octopus, Sandman, Vulture, Electro, Mysterio, and Scorpion. They're hired by the Green Goblin to take on Spider-Man, but they're not Oscorp creations the way the villains were in the Amazing Spider-Man series. The Green Goblin wants to control them, but he can't. Spider-Man needs the help of Black Cat to take them all down....paves way for Black Cat spin-off film.

Second film, I think Spider-Man should get the black symbiote suit in Avengers: Infinity War to help take down Thanos. While the suit was useful in taking on Thanos, it has now made Spidey more aggressive and alienates him from his friends. He ditches the suit and Venom/Eddie Brock becomes the villain. Paves way for Flash Thompson/Venom spin-off film.

And final film a semi-two parter, ends with the showdown between Spider-Man and Norman Osborn. The results of the final battle leave Peter feeling defeated due to the death of Gwen Stacy and temporarily gives up being Spider-Man leading to a Miles Morales Spider-Man film who tries to pick up the pieces from there being no Spider-Man in New York City.

You should email this to Marvel!

 

[Oscorp]

When it comes to looks alone, I think Billy Bob Thornton can pull off the old school Quentin Beck look haha:

Not saying he should play Mysterio haha, just think the similarity is pretty striking! :P

 

[Spider-Gnome]

I think I would rather have someone else. A member had suggested Zachary Quinto for Mysterio in the past.

I did, but to be fair, someone else suggested it before me. Mainly because of his look, but also Quinto can play off kilter which could work for Mysterio.

IMO, they should just go all out for this Spider-Man film and take advantage of the size of Spider-Man's rogues gallery. Unlike Batman or the Flashs' villains, the majority of Spider-Man's core villains are rather stock and generic. While there are some exceptions like Norman Osborn and Doctor Octopus that have more fleshed out characterizations, most of Spidey's villains are just typical criminals/robbers.

But we can use this sheer size of Spider-Man's rogues gallery to demonstrate that we have a Spider-Man that is somewhat established and pretty much fully demonstrate that the film doesn't need to retread over the origin yet again. And without the need to focus on the characterization the villains, we can use that focus on Spider-Man and his large cast (Mary Jane Watson, Gwen Stacy, Harry Osborn, Miles Morales, Flash Thompson, J. Jonah Jameson, Felicia Hardy and Aunt May).

For the core villain of the series, I think it should be Norman Osborn played by Bryan Cranston. Rework Osborn and Oscorp to be the one who fills in the void created by the military industrial complex's loss of Tony Stark/Stark Enterprises and Justin Hammer/Hammer Industries. While having Oscorp be responsible for EVERYTHING the way they were in the Amazing Spider-Man series is stupid, I feel like they should be a major influence of the events going on. And I envision Norman Osborn to be an awesome mix of Lex Luthor meets the Joker.

And for the first film, I think the first villain should be not just one, but the Sinister Six. What better way to establish an established Spider-Man and to show just how he has dramatically changed New York City by having villains come together to plot to take down Spider-Man. And the roster of the Sinister Six should be Doctor Octopus, Sandman, Vulture, Electro, Mysterio, and Scorpion. They're hired by the Green Goblin to take on Spider-Man, but they're not Oscorp creations the way the villains were in the Amazing Spider-Man series. The Green Goblin wants to control them, but he can't. Spider-Man needs the help of Black Cat to take them all down....paves way for Black Cat spin-off film.

Second film, I think Spider-Man should get the black symbiote suit in Avengers: Infinity War to help take down Thanos. While the suit was useful in taking on Thanos, it has now made Spidey more aggressive and alienates him from his friends. He ditches the suit and Venom/Eddie Brock becomes the villain. Paves way for Flash Thompson/Venom spin-off film.

And final film a semi-two parter, ends with the showdown between Spider-Man and Norman Osborn. The results of the final battle leave Peter feeling defeated due to the death of Gwen Stacy and temporarily gives up being Spider-Man leading to a Miles Morales Spider-Man film who tries to pick up the pieces from there being no Spider-Man in New York City.

I definitely like your ideas for Norman Osborn, as I suggested the same (including casting Cranston). Not really looking for Sinister Six right off the bat. Prefer introducing them individually first (maybe 2 per movie) and have Doc Ock in charge. While the symbiote may be too soon in a second movie, I agree Infinity War seems a natural fit for Pete obtaining the symbiote.

And I'm not a fan of Miles Morales, not because of race, but because he's Ultimate. But, I'm glad you're at least not killing Peter.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

When it comes to looks alone, I think Billy Bob Thornton can pull off the old school Quentin Beck look haha:

Not saying he should play Mysterio haha, just think the similarity is pretty striking! :P

He look perfect for Mysterio. So much like him.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I definitely like your ideas for Norman Osborn, as I suggested the same (including casting Cranston). Not really looking for Sinister Six right off the bat. Prefer introducing them individually first (maybe 2 per movie) and have Doc Ock in charge. While the symbiote may be too soon in a second movie, I agree Infinity War seems a natural fit for Pete obtaining the symbiote.

I think the Sinister Six works right off the bat because we should have a Spidey that has at least a year under his belt in his first solo movie. Kinda like how the Dark Knight showed that after time, the results of Batman forced the various criminal gangs to work together, the results of Spider-Man have brought various criminals of uncommon backgrounds to work together.

And I'm not a fan of Miles Morales, not because of race, but because he's Ultimate. But, I'm glad you're at least not killing Peter.

I think that Miles and Peter can go hand in hand. There is no need to flat out ignore Miles Morales while there is also no need to fully replace Peter. I think it could be a good idea for Sony as a business to have two simultaneous Spider-Man film series that work together.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

I think the Sinister Six works right off the bat because we should have a Spidey that has at least a year under his belt in his first solo movie. Kinda like how the Dark Knight showed that after time, the results of Batman forced the various criminal gangs to work together, the results of Spider-Man have brought various criminals of uncommon backgrounds to work together.

Yeah, but The Dark Knight had Batman Begins to proceed it. This is MCU Spider-Man 1. But, I understand what you're saying. But, it's part of the reason I'd love this to be a Netflix show, where you can start at the beginning and really develop the supporting cast and intro the wide variety of villains in Spidey's rogue's gallery.

I think that Miles and Peter can go hand in hand. There is no need to flat out ignore Miles Morales while there is also no need to fully replace Peter. I think it could be a good idea for Sony as a business to have two simultaneous Spider-Man film series that work together.

I just feel it takes away the uniqueness of Pete.

 

[The Villain]

Mysterio, Kraven & perhaps Hammerhead as the side behind the scenes enemy.