Who was the most evil out of the movie villains???

[Rockbottom]

Why does everyone seem to forget the Jokers poisoning the city with hair spray and other products and such. Everyone just seems to remember the parade gas.

 

[GoogleMe94]

i didnt forget, but yeah, noone has mentioned that one, lol.

 

[The Joker]

Joker's insanity was great, but doesn't give him the edge that Pengy has. Penguin was sane, cold, calculating, bitter, and played on Gotham's pity of him to hatch a master plan to kill their kids right under their very noses.

Brilliant.

 

[GoogleMe94]

yeah! ppl dont give enough credit to penguin, he was pretty smart for a deformed guy.

 

[Two-Face]

Mr Freeze

 

[GoogleMe94]

hey, Freeze could make a armored freezing mobile, had a freezeing gun, nearly froze the city, brilliant guy i say.t:

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

Mr Freeze kicked ice.

 

[david icke]

Penguin. Going after children specifically and he was an out and out sexual deviant, the Joker never groped Vicki Vale the way the Penguin did with the college student although if Batman hadnt stepped in who knows what the Joker wouldve done with VV.
I was going to say the Joker's transformation made him a little less culpable for his crimes by way of reason of insanity but he seemed pretty insane already going by the reports of his activities as Jack Napier.

 

[The Empire Ape]

he was not "insane". He was a sociopath.

 

[david icke]

he was not "insane". He was a sociopath.

I take it you're referring to his time as 'Jack Napier' before the Joker transformation here?
Well, we could argue all day about what 'sanity/insanity' means or if being a sociopath could fall under the 'insane' banner. I'd say a sociopath might rob some folk without giving a crap about how they'd feel about it but someone 'insane' would not only rob them but blow them away even though there really was no need for it, as in they didnt present any real threat to him.
And if you wanted to say he was a sociopath when he was younger you could also say he didnt go 'insane' when he became the Joker, he merely continued being a sociopath with his crimes just becoming a little colourful or imaginative.

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

I take it you're referring to his time as 'Jack Napier' before the Joker transformation here?
Well, we could argue all day about what 'sanity/insanity' means or if being a sociopath could fall under the 'insane' banner. I'd say a sociopath might rob some folk without giving a crap about how they'd feel about it but someone 'insane' would not only rob them but blow them away even though there really was no need for it, as in they didnt present any real threat to him.
And if you wanted to say he was a sociopath when he was younger you could also say he didnt go 'insane' when he became the Joker, he merely continued being a sociopath with his crimes just becoming a little colourful or imaginative.

Yes before, joker is insane.

 

[david icke]

Yes before, joker is insane.

Yeah, I was kinda just playing around with the terms last night, but thinking again you guys are right, the Joker's crimes in Batman89 don't always have an end in sight like money or power, Jack Napier's gunning down of the Wayne's did begin as a mugging. Yeah, he wasn't insane then, suppose I was just thinking if someone told me they'd gunned down a couple of folk I'd think 'they're insane', but that's not strictly true, it wouldnt get them off with an insanity plea in court, they're just evil and sadistic, totally in control of their actions.

 

[The Empire Ape]

I would still argue that the Joker in most of his incarnations cannot be described as "insane" and would definitely go to jail (or the electric chair), especially in the real world.

Look, people always talk about how "insane" Batman's enemies are, but in fact, most of them are not. Nowadays there is this dangerous trend IMO to give peoples always excuses for their behaviour. The only guy who is "really" insane would be Two-Face.

 

[david icke]

I would still argue that the Joker in most of his incarnations cannot be described as "insane" and would definitely go to jail (or the electric chair), especially in the real world.

Look, people always talk about how "insane" Batman's enemies are, but in fact, most of them are not. Nowadays there is this dangerous trend IMO to give peoples always excuses for their behaviour. The only guy who is "really" insane would be Two-Face.

Well, I'd say 'the Ventriloquist' (when he was around) could be considered 'insane' if two-face is, theV truly believed his little puppet was a seperate entity and alive.
The Joker featured in 'The Killing Joke' was pretty together mentally until his 'one bad day' so a case could be made for his mind breaking down and he no longer being responsible for his actions, the mind has limits and can go places it cant return from under the most extreme of circumstances.
As for Jack Joker, well, he definitely became a little more unhinged as his crimes seemed to just be for the hell of it as opposed to the career criminal he'd been before the acid bath, but I'm not sure if 'insane' is the right word for him, I'm not too sure about that one, thats why I prefer something like the killing joke as an origin story(altho its not canon), thats more a story about a 'normal' guy going over the edge, I always thought they made the Joker in Batman89 a crook before hand just to make it easier for him to have a gang of hoods and some resources/connections behind him already as they had a lot to fit in a 2hr movie.
Like the real world though, it's a matter of opinion on who's mentally ill and who's not, psychiatrists disagree all the time in court cases I'd imagine.

 

[The Empire Ape]

Well, I'd say 'the Ventriloquist' (when he was around) could be considered 'insane' if two-face is, theV truly believed his little puppet was a seperate entity and alive.

Yes, you are right. I forgot him.