Sequels Who would be the villain for SM4?

[Eddie Brock]

The clone saga could work, it would just need a hell of a lot of adjustments. Here are some changes I would do:
Have it be Spider-Man 6
*Base it on the first clone story (ASM 149-150) and Revelations.
*Just one plain Spider-Man clone (maybe later on his costume changes so its better to identify whos who, but dont change his name or anything like that).
*No Kain, no Spider-Cide, no Gwen Stacy clones, no multitudes of other clones; just the one clone.
*No Jackle
*Like the comics Green Goblin is behind it all, though I would have it be revealed early on in the movie. The movie is the last one and would have to have a big villain leading it. Though I would have liked to seen Doc Ock return, most people would accept Norman returning more than Doc Ock (mostly because Norman is Spidey's #1 foe and Ock's redemption in SM2).

You can't have the Clone Saga without the Jackal! (Unless you exist in the Ultimate Universe)

 

[Venom 1988]

Meh why have Jackal though. Eh I guess you include both Jackal and GG

 

[Eddie Brock]

At this point, I have the perfect SM4 villain in mind:

Even Spidey isn't strong enough to save himself.

 

[Sloth7d]

Sorry, dude. I'm still not sold on it.

The Spider-Man movies have always been about Peter Parker/Spider-Man. First they decide what moral lesson Peter has to learn, and then pick the villian or villians to best support that. They're not going to throw in extra villians with no back story unless it somehow supports the theme of the movie. No where in your plot synopsis do you state what moral struggle Peter will be confronted with.

Well, I only explained what you asked. The Hydroman thing would play to Peters jealousy in this movie. He creates hydroman out of jealousy. In effect he learns a lesson. If thats what you want.
And clone saga is self explanitory. But I could go into detail as to how I see it.
For starters is just one clone, Ben. And it intersects with his mutating into a manspider arc.

Wow, you just listed 2 stories that should NEVER grace a movie screen.

No matter how nice they are on paper, NEVER on a movie screen, ever.

Yes, because a villain as interesting as the lizard reaaaally deserves his own movie. People honestly picked the lizard on that poll. Yeah, lizard will get his own movie and next we'll need a Spiderman Returns.
There are but so many epic enemies left. Sinister six and clone saga are two of the biggest things in Spiderman history. Kingpin could also work too or spiderslayers. Personally though I'd prefer the sinister. A 2hour+ movie can easily work the sinister six plot. And clone saga hardly needs that.

 

[Sloth7d]

The clone saga could work, it would just need a hell of a lot of adjustments. Here are some changes I would do:
Have it be Spider-Man 6
*Base it on the first clone story (ASM 149-150) and Revelations.
*Just one plain Spider-Man clone (maybe later on his costume changes so its better to identify whos who, but dont change his name or anything like that).
*No Kain, no Spider-Cide, no Gwen Stacy clones, no multitudes of other clones; just the one clone.
*No Jackle
*Like the comics Green Goblin is behind it all, though I would have it be revealed early on in the movie. The movie is the last one and would have to have a big villain leading it. Though I would have liked to seen Doc Ock return, most people would accept Norman returning more than Doc Ock (mostly because Norman is Spidey's #1 foe and Ock's redemption in SM2).

See. You're on the same page as me.

 

[GoldGoblin]

Chameleon would have to be two villains in one for him to work.Like if he was disguised as a telephone repair man named Max Dillion who is working on a telephone pole when Kraven goes after the Lizard in a nearby sewer.

When spidey is about to go into the sewer to stop Kraven,the telephone repairman shoots at spidey with a laser pistol.Spidey shoots him with some impact webbing which makes Max Dillion (Chameleon) to get tangled in the telephone wires,zapping him.

Then spidey goes down into the sewer to fight Kraven/Lizard.Then after that fight,Kraven is dead and the Lizard has been turned back to Dr.Connors and Dr.Connors and spidey go up the ladder to reach the city streets.

Right when spidey makes his way up,spidey gets zapped by a bolt of electricty by Electro(Chameleon).

Or instead of Electro,they could make Chameleon become the Vulture.Where after he finds out spidey has killed his brother Kraven,Chameleon uses the technology that he has stolen over the years as a spy to become the hunter that his brother once was to fight spidey.

The Chameleon should mess with spidey's mind through out the movie,and have a laser pistol where he could pop up anywhere as anyone and fire it at spidey.

It could keep spidey on his toes this way.Then at the end of the movie the Chameleon could actually have a physical fight with spidey by becoming a different villain like the ways I've described.

 

[the Firestarter]

I'd like to see:

- Lizard
- Kraven the Hunter
- Charmeleon (as Norman Osbourne/ Harry Osbourne / Dr. Octavius / Peter's deceased father / maybe even Eddie Brock... to screw with Peter's mind & get the secrets to Spiderman's identity). Then with his new found gadget's from all his spying he'd ultimately battle Spidey as Hobgoblin.

This way if Raimi & cast come back for one last film... the whole cast can make curtain call appearances. Would be kinda cool if Charmeleon is played by Bruce Campbell.

 

[FaT_tONle]

I think the clone saga could work in a total reboot 25 years from now... with Bein Reilly and all the new villains. But thats only if 4-6 make a killing as well... but definitely Sinister 6 for SM6... I am not sold on villains like Mysterio, Scorpion, Electro, and chameleon carrying the next trilogy... it just isn't enough.

 

[Sloth7d]

^Thank you. Thats how I feel.
IMO.
Maximum Carnage or seperation anxiety could hold their own movie,but it seems too soon after Venom to do that.
Kingpin could get his own, but others may think its too much like Daredevil.
Smythe and the spiderslayers can get their own movie aswell, maybe even throw scorpion in there.
But, lizard, mysterio, not sure bout chameleon I can see him in the Kingpin movie though. They just aren't interesting enough to take up the whole film.

 

[The Caped Knight]

I Want THE LIZARD for spidey 4

 

[ledfloyd92]

I have an idea for SM4 in my head but it needs perfecting before I actually feel confident in telling anyone. But it has the Chameleon as the main villian and Kraven/The Lizard as more of a side-story, but fear not they aren't completely left out.

 

[MrSelfDestruct]

Henry Rollins as Kraven.

 

[Eddie Brock]

^Thank you. Thats how I feel.
IMO.
Maximum Carnage or seperation anxiety could hold their own movie,but it seems too soon after Venom to do that.
Kingpin could get his own, but others may think its too much like Daredevil.
Smythe and the spiderslayers can get their own movie aswell, maybe even throw scorpion in there.
But, lizard, mysterio, not sure bout chameleon I can see him in the Kingpin movie though. They just aren't interesting enough to take up the whole film.

Again, 2 more stories that should never hit the screen.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Dude everyone has their own opinion... I perfectly agree that we all have to argue about something just to keep the dialouge going... but its getting boring going back and forth... lets just agree to disagree on this one ^^^... try convincing people that are unsure where they want the story to go but don't keep slamming the rhetoric in the faces of people who disagree with you... maybe I am guilty of the same thing... but I was never adamant about it as you are... so I'll just leave it at that

 

[Spade]

At this point, I have the perfect SM4 villain in mind:

Even Spidey isn't strong enough to save himself.

Sad part is how utterly true that is.

If I were looking ahead into SM5 and SM6 (if they're ever made) I'd like to see Ock's return with a pseudo-Sinister group of villains, followed up by a Clone Saga with the Scorpion and Carnage. I know it sounds like and odd choice for SM6, but that's because my hope is for a Clone Saga that is Ultimate-inspired (to an extent...please, no Gwen-Carnage). Saying who I'd replace the "man behind it all" with would probably be a point of contention.

If Sony goes through with the recent confirmation of SM4, SM5 and SM6 I'd at least like a bit of a throwback before going to the newer sagas again. Granted, a major issue of SM4 will be topping Venom. But I think the films can achieve it with good direction and awesome screenplays.

 

[Warhammer]

The Lizard.
He is easily one of the top-tier villains in Spidey's rogues gallery, and hopefully, the return of Venom (if he doesn't die at the end of Spider-Man 3)

 

[Leenie]

Lizard, because he would translate REALLY well in film. He's a sympathetic villain.

I like the idea of Kraven hunting him, which will try to hinder Spidey's goal to cure Dr. Conners. I really like that idea.

 

[Spade]

Lizard, because he would translate REALLY well in film. He's a sympathetic villain.

But do you think they can really translate that sympathy now that the Sandman has taken the basic outline of the Lizard's background? Viewers may not be so enthralled being accosted to another film with the "father with a family" motif.

 

[Drizzle]

I think that they should use Lizard and Kraven for Spider-Man 4. I was also going to add Electro, but I think he'd make a good "solo" villain for the fifth film.

 

[dodus]

^ Not to mention they've also used the "brilliant scientist friend of Peter who can't help himself due to freak accident" motif as well. The Lizard doesn't have any other cards I can think of. No offense to Dylan Baker, he's a great actor and has certainly put in his time, but the prospect of the Lizard holding together a sequel is underwhelming as hell.

 

[Venom 1988]

Its still somewhat different though. From the looks of it Sandman's wife doesnt give a **** about Flint (well in the begining anyway). Conner's wife on the other hand, would try to help Conner's and get him cured, while not letting their son know about it. Plus remeber, Lizard wouldn't be the only villain.

 

[The Caped Knight]

But do you think they can really translate that sympathy now that the Sandman has taken the basic outline of the Lizard's background? Viewers may not be so enthralled being accosted to another film with the "father with a family" motif.

Their's a huge difference between Curt Conners & Flint Marko


1. Curt's has a son

2. Curt is a happily married man

3. Curt's not a criminal


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1. Flint's got a Daughter who's got

Spoiler

an incurable sickness

2. Flint's wife is unhappy and is not happy being married to Flint

3. Flint's a wanted Man by the police even before he became Sandman .

 

[the Firestarter]

visually i think lizard & mysterio would make the best villains for the movie... with kraven hunting down lizard as an added challenge. both could work if done right.

however, i think i'd prefer to have charmeleon in the same film with kraven... to make the storyline a little more cohesive. the next one should be less special effects driven & more emotionally driven. charmeleon's mind messing with peter, plus the emotional turmoil caused by the lizard storyline (in addition to peter's newlywed status) would all bring the story home... for what's very likely to be the last film with the original cast / director.

leave mysterio for the next director... possibly with some of the b-level villains (i.e., vulture &/or scorpion). then, carnage can be left to cap of the series in spider-man six... or they can go in a lot lighter direction with doc ock & the sinister six.

 

[amazingdm]

the lizard? really?
THIS is who you want to be in the 4th?

Oh a mad scientist drinks a formula and turns into a lizard.. wow yah ok

 

[GoldGoblin]

the lizard? really?
THIS is who you want to be in the 4th?

Oh a mad scientist drinks a formula and turns into a lizard.. wow yah ok

^
Who do you think would be more interesting,a red Venom?