Who would rather watch the 90's cartoon rather than SM3

[November Rain]

*yawn*

whatever...

 

[Dr. Fate]

I prefer the rendition of Venom from the 1990s series.

 

[Super Kal]

I could never get into the 90's cartoon, so I chose Spiderman 3

 

[Justu]

ok i would rather watch the movie or anything else then that stupid cartoon is was terrible i dont understand who could sit there and watch that.

 

[The Caped Knight]

I love both The 90's animated series & Spidey 3 .

 

[Cyrusbales]

I watched my copy of the venom saga again the other day. There's so much more in that, in terms of quality etc. The whole eddy getting into parkers life, talking to may and MJ, very interesting and would have been great in the film. We needed to see brock abusing his knowledge of everything parker etc....

 

[KappeiJin]

*yawn*

whatever...

*Yawn* what?

Ok, ok: It's a Spidey's movie, so it was great.

It's better like that?

 

[Nathan]

Another part the cartoon definitely handled better.

 

[November Rain]

not necessarily better, only different.

you have to remember that the peter parker's seen in the cartoon and the movie are pretty much completely different.

the cartoon version is far more bitter and there isn't that public love for the character, remember there was a reward on his head at the time when he got the suit. Hence it is understandable for a meaner version of spidey to come out.

in the film he was adored by the public so it is again understandable for this version of peter parker to become more arrogant and vain because his view of himself are different, as well as the way he perceives being spiderman.


now if you truelly wish to fault this scene, one has to go back to the first spidey film and ask whether you were happy with the portrayal of the character back then because it was spawned from all the way then.

If you had any sort of admiration for the peter parker of the first two films and how raimi handled him, i don't see how you can be upset about this scene.

 

[Mr Jide]

saying this i would also watch the 20 minute ep of 'armed and dangerous' than the whole of spidey 2 because it is better.

You cot damn right.

 

[Cyrusbales]

not necessarily better, only different.

you have to remember that the peter parker's seen in the cartoon and the movie are pretty much completely different.

the cartoon version is far more bitter and there isn't that public love for the character, remember there was a reward on his head at the time when he got the suit. Hence it is understandable for a meaner version of spidey to come out.

in the film he was adored by the public so it is again understandable for this version of peter parker to become more arrogant and vain because his view of himself are different, as well as the way he perceives being spiderman.


now if you truelly wish to fault this scene, one has to go back to the first spidey film and ask whether you were happy with the portrayal of the character back then because it was spawned from all the way then.

If you had any sort of admiration for the peter parker of the first two films and how raimi handled him, i don't see how you can be upset about this scene.

but the arrogance is never shown anywhere in the movie version until SM3, it's not part of the established character who is the embodyment of humility and shyed away from fights, for example flash etc. Not captain dance like a ****.

 

[November Rain]

Well peter's frustation with people doesn't really come up until the reward is put up for him in the cartoon, at least not to that level.

He was seriously backed up to a wall, helplessly saving someone's life and being framed to have saved something, having a bounty put up against him, having random peeps (even cops chasing after him), helping a man that spends his life bashing him etc...



Shyed away from fights?????

ONce pete knew he had the power to bash flash, look how his reaction to that fight went? He put his hands up, grabbed flash hard and punched him holding back very lil. He even decided to EXPLOIT this by becoming a wrestler. That's not what i call shying away from a fight.

besides, as mentioned before it doesn't matter when it starts to occur, it began to be set up in the first film on the bridge. Movie peter has far more reason to be vein than in the cartoon.

Heck, the cartoon pete only wears an italian suit to see the suit's morphing capability. That's far less arrogant than going out and buying a suit when you haven't even paid your rent and heavily tipping waitresses for some 'shade'


Look at his first encounter with sandman, sandman is asking for the peaceful way out but spidey's arrogance gets the best of him and that's why he loses (pretty badly).

 

[Cyrusbales]

In SM1, his REFLEXES cause him to beat flash, then he shys away.

There was no real motivation for peter's actions, considering Raimi had been 'planning' this trilgoy etc, with supposed careful thought to the whole arc, he made many glaring errors, for example the butlers involvement, peter's expression of hidden traits.

Peter's plan in SM1 is to just hang out agaist bone saw, but he finds he HAS to retaliate. And when do we see him being chauvenistic ever? He has a great deal of respect for ALL women, the way he treats Betty, May, MJ and every girl he comes into contact with...

 

[November Rain]

reflex my ass...

he happily grabs flashes hands and punches him away without any sort of remorse beceause he simply could. He knew what he was doing.

His motivation was adoration of his alter ego. Whether it was sufficient or not is up to you to really decide.

Bonesaw was never really any threat to spidey, he didn't even use reasonable force on him, he knocked him out cold in th eend with quite a harsh attack.

Pete's always known that spidey has a way with women, you see it in 2 with there always being a crowd of women (especially at the bank scene) going 'spiderman, save me', so why is it a far stretch to see his alter ego then now attempt to cash in on this.

Again, respect is what comes through when his inhibitions are in check. When they aren't in comes across in a whole different light and that's the whole point of the symbiote, to show peter in a whole new different light (at least in the films).

 

[Cyrusbales]

a whole new light, not a whole new character entirely.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

I watched my copy of the venom saga again the other day. There's so much more in that, in terms of quality etc. The whole eddy getting into parkers life, talking to may and MJ, very interesting and would have been great in the film. We needed to see brock abusing his knowledge of everything parker etc....

The Venom saga was so much better than SM3 as Brock's story was fleshed out more and the symbiote's effects on Peter were spot on. The symbiote, Eddie Brock and Venom should have never been in SM3, they deserved to be developed more in their own movie, not sharing screentime with Sandman and Harry.

Another part the cartoon definitely handled better.

SM3 symbiote Peter was atrocious. The 90's cartoon nailed it. I really wish we could have gotten the symbiote's ability to mimic clothing.

 

[November Rain]

a whole new light, not a whole new character entirely.

Well again i reiterate that the characters (of peter parker and also spiderman) in the film have been different, significantly different from the first cartoon.

and this was way back in the first film as well....

 

[Cyrusbales]

I have no problem with making the character different in the movies, but when it changes from one movie to the next, it's just weak at best.

 

[November Rain]

but the external influences have changed significantly enough to warrant the change in character.

just like the batman seen in batman begins is going to be different to the batman in the dark knight simply because he's been around longer and is more known and acknowledged by gotham.

 

[Eggyman]

Spider-man 3, easily. C'mon Cyrusbales, it's called character development -- these films are as much about Peter Parker's journey as they are about Spider-man; the character changing is more realistic than if he didn't -- but we shouldn't really get too deep into realism in regards to comic-book adaptions.

 

[Alexia Dark]

Change? What change? He went from a nerdy, whining, selfish idiot... into a nerdy, whining, selfish idiot with superpowers.

 

[Cyrusbales]

the problem is the development, it jumps from one thing to another, no DEVELOPMENT, just an instantaneous change....

 

[El Payaso]

not necessarily better, only different.

you have to remember that the peter parker's seen in the cartoon and the movie are pretty much completely different.

The movie's Peter was far more cartoony than the cartoon's one.

 

[RedBull]

I think the cartoon series back in the 90's did such a better job at the whole spiderman thing. The question I asked myself all the time is , how come when comics books are turned into anything. The cartoon series are always better than the movie.It's as if the movies is in a whole new universe. 300 was successful due to who close it stayed to comic. From the poses , to the character. I think SM3 could have been a great movie, however someone never took the proper timing to make it a great movie. I'd rather watched the caroon series to these movies. I swear the cartoon series are also more graphic then these crap they put otu. Granted the bad guy escape, the fight/batle scene are always nice. As well emotion , making you feel for a character. I just hope Transformer doesn't dissapoint this much.

Agree completely, well, sort of. One thing Id like to add tho, is they shouldve picked a different Eddie brock, not a dude that acts like a girl. Id much rather watch the cartoon, dont like to read like all these comic book freaks.

 

[Spider-Bite]

Okay I'm going to post on here how I would have done spider-man 3. Forgive the diaologe, because I'm merely trying to get to the point. I can't post a whole script of here, not that I'm capable of writing one.

I'm not done typing it yet, but I have the whole thing written in my mind. It will probably take like 10 minutes to read, if even as it's just a summary. The opening scene has more detail than the other scenes as it's necessary.

For right now I'm just posting the beginning as like a teaser. I swear that many of you will think what I'm writing here is better than what we got. I'm not saying what we got sucks. I just feel it's nowhere in the same league as the last two movies, and it kind of put the franchise in a dead end.

I'll start a new thread when I'm done, but I didn't want to yet. I just wanted to give you guys a teaser so that way more people would read it when I post it. I swear it's worth reading.

My spider-man 3

Villains
Lizard, Symbiote, Dock Ock, and Harry Osborn

I swear it's not crammed, and it's not full of farfetched insane coincedences. there is no emo peter in this story either. He doesn't suddenly go shopping for different clothes just because he gets the symbiote. If you like it, please ask a few other posters to read it, so it gets quoted and shows up on the next page or so.


Movie starts off like so

Peter talking about how great life is, how Mj got a great new job and in a few months they are moving in together, he's doing so great at school, that conners gave him a job helping him with some very important research, and Jonah is giving him a high profile assignment. Jonah: " peter I want you to fly to cape canaveral, and cover my son John landing back from his mission" peter; "what mission is that sir" "I dont' know, he's bringing some hunk of dirt back from that planet. what planet is that robbie?" Robbie "Mars Jonah"

Eddie is there, and jonah says he will be covering it with him too.

cut to MJ's apartment. she walks out of the bathroom to see peter hanging upside down from the ceiling in his underwear, t-shirt and spider-man mask. they do their kiss. she tells him his weight is going to ruin the ceiling. And peter smirks "hey I think I'm in pretty good shape here"

cuts to Peter and Brock on the airplane. something interesting happens to help interesting conversation. Maybe brock getting a flight attendant's phone number.

cuts to cape canaveral.

Reporter standing in fron of camera at cap canaveral "Two years ago today, NASA sent a rover to the surface of the planet Mars. After obtaining a sample of the martian soil, it flew back to the International Space Station where astronauts loaded it onto a shuttle, with the intent to fly it back to earth so that scientists can study it for signs of ancient life."

Onboard the shuttle the symbiote creeps out of a container.

Cuts back to brock and peter talking about something. have brock trying to get peter to hit on some hot chick, but he wont.
Cuts back to shuttle.. The symbiote englufs John. He flails around bumping into controls. His partner grabs something heavy and tries to hit the symbiote but hits something else instead, causing an electical spark and fire.

then some kind of siren goes off, the reporter says "something is very wrong. the shuttle is coming in with an irratic flightpath" the shuttle falls in the ocean which is right near by.

Brock says : "Whoa this will make a great story. wont it pete?" he looks to see pete is gone. "peter?"

Spider-Man comes to the rescue, getting the astronauts to saefty on top of the shuttle which is floating. John is rambling franticly about something he saw in the shuttle.
A helicopter drops down to get the astronauts. Peter is about to climp up, when something triggers his spidey sense, but in a weird way. Almost like it's calling to him. He goes back inside. The crowd stares silently as the shuttle sinks.