Sci-Fi Tron: Ares with Jared Leto

I think there are ways. How they went this time? No chance.
Maybe. But I think this just might be a series like Blade Runner. Not in terms of quality of movies made, but in appeal scale. But I do think that this was the worst way to try and get people on board. By design, you're taking away the core appeal of the franchise by bringing it into the real world
 
Hard(er) sci-fi has a difficult time garnering a big following. Even more so at a global level. There’s a threshold where science fiction just becomes too unrelateable to the mass audience and Blade Runner and Tron are in that bucket.
 
Maybe. But I think this just might be a series like Blade Runner. Not in terms of quality of movies made, but in appeal scale. But I do think that this was the worst way to try and get people on board. By design, you're taking away the core appeal of the franchise by bringing it into the real world
If they weren't gonna do a proper sequel (so annoyed by this) then you bring in a real, young star to lead. This movie was doomed in 2017 when they attached Leto.
 
Hard(er) sci-fi has a difficult time garnering a big following. Even more so at a global level. There’s a threshold where science fiction just becomes too unrelateable to the mass audience and Blade Runner and Tron are in that bucket.
Tron is not like Blade Runner. It's built to have wider appeal. They just don't make good movies. I really wish they had made the Legacy sequel they promised in 2015. Tomorrowland flopping shouldn't of stopped it.
 
If they weren't gonna do a proper sequel (so annoyed by this) then you bring in a real, young star to lead. This movie was doomed in 2017 when they attached Leto.
The thing I see people say is, which is more irritating, is they had a start date to film a sequel I think around 2015 and then Tomorrowland bombs and they shelved it. Now we get this. I am not sure how well in 2015 a sequel to Legacy does, but I actually think if you did it NOW, then there is a nostalgia appeal to it that didn't exist back then. Maybe that doesn't make it a billion dollar franchise, but I think it would have more buzz at least amongst fans of the franchise. This movie I don't feel buzz anywhere for
 
The thing I see people say is, which is more irritating, is they had a start date to film a sequel I think around 2015 and then Tomorrowland bombs and they shelved it. Now we get this. I am not sure how well in 2015 a sequel to Legacy does, but I actually think if you did it NOW, then there is a nostalgia appeal to it that didn't exist back then. Maybe that doesn't make it a billion dollar franchise, but I think it would have more buzz at least amongst fans of the franchise. This movie I don't feel buzz anywhere for
That is exactly what happened and I'm still depressed. Such an interesting story to be farmed from it.
 
4.8m including early access. Most likely coming in under 40m. Chance to be lower then Morbius.
Not shocked at all. When I was seeing the headlines saying it could make around 50, I was skeptical. Heck. I was thinking 40 might be high. This just isn't a franchise with wide appeal. It's something largely nerds like us love. I just don't think Tron is going to break that ceiling into being super mainstream like a Pirates or something. At least, if there is a path to crack that code, I didn't think this was going to be it.
I think there are ways. How they went this time? No chance.
That is exactly what happened and I'm still depressed. Such an interesting story to be farmed from it.
Had they just followed up and built on the promise of what was teased at the very end of Tron Legacy and in the viral marketing with Sam taking back the company, Quorra in the real world with Sam, Cillian Murphy as Edward Dillinger and Sark and/or the MCP invading our world, if not absolutely dominating the box office, at the very least could’ve made much more and done pretty well to get a sequel greenlit.

I’ve had this idea swirling around in my head for a few years of what a possible sequel would’ve looked like and one angle I came at it from was both Sam and Quorra having a daughter (whom I named Sunny; also made the character a girl this time instead of another boy since we’ve had that twice with the last two films and wanted to change it up) who is a human/ISO hybrid who inadvertently discovers she has the ability to travel between the real world and digital space at will, and she becomes sort of this archetypal Greek mythological demigoddess, messianic-type figure that the main antagonists of the film want to use for their own purposes. Would explore themes of discovering your heritage and what that means, identity, destiny versus choice, whether bloodline makes you who you are or not, etc. I didn’t get much further than that, but you get the idea. Also, my thinking behind that choice was that having a younger character would draw newer and younger audiences.

And, with where Joseph Kosinski and Cillian Murphy are now in their careers, you could’ve really leveraged that name recognition in the marketing. I mean, “From the director of ‘Top Gun: Maverick’”? Come on, that would’ve grabbed audience’s attention and gotten people’s butts into seats.
 
I have no idea what was the idea for the next Tron movie. If it were me, I would have had Sam introduce the Isos and prove what secrets and advancements the Grid could help us lead to, and then a bunch of companies would have worked en mass to hack the Grid and then the Grid becomes this super corporate hellscape of every bad thing about Capitalism and Sam/Quorra have to fix this situation they created by exposing its existence. That would have been my personal approach to a sequel.
 
So you didnt f with Real Adventures?! Aight. :o

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I have no idea what was the idea for the next Tron movie. If it were me, I would have had Sam introduce the Isos and prove what secrets and advancements the Grid could help us lead to, and then a bunch of companies would have worked en mass to hack the Grid and then the Grid becomes this super corporate hellscape of every bad thing about Capitalism and Sam/Quorra have to fix this situation they created by exposing its existence. That would have been my personal approach to a sequel.
Quorra's existence outside of the grid is the starting point. A general idea they stole for this new garbage.
 
So I just got back from watching Tron Ares on IMAX.

The film is a visual spectacle with a pretty killer soundtrack by NIN. That being said I felt no connection with any of the characters featured and the story felt half contrived and boring. Which is absolutely ashamed because they hint at potential theme and avenues to explore and ultimately do nothing with it.

Also there's a real disconnect from Tron Legacy that is glossed over that is disconcerting. Furthermore I was very upset that the character of TRON wasn't even mentioned or acknowledged.
 
I had a good time with this; it had a fun Tron meets Terminator vibe at certain points.

The cast was overall good. I would have liked to see Sam Flynn and Quorra go against Cillian Murphy’s Dillinger, sure, but Greta Lee and Evan Peters were both good. And Jodie Turner-Smith’s Athena was a real stand-out for me.

Excited for the future of the franchise but not holding my breath.
 
How much do you think it would cost? Remember, Legacy had a budget of 170m in 2010. The Force Awakens cost 400m+ in 2015.

Tron: Legacy was the first Tron movie in over 25 years, was mostly set in the grid and was using what was then new de-aging technology for a major character appearing throughout the movie.

Force Awakens is Star Wars and a sequel to a beloved movie after 30 years. It was always getting a huge budget.

There is no way Ares is profitable with that budget. I thought the whole plan with them ignoring Legacy and setting it in the real world was to keep the budget down.
 
I ended up absolutely loving this movie. I've seen it twice in IMAX. I think the only way to experience this has got to be in IMAX/LieMax... Visual spectacle for sure... Also being a huge NIN fan, the soundtrack is banging.

I actually think Jared Leto plays the Ares character really well... This is probably my favorite role he's done in sometime.

I took a bunch of my family with me, they seemed to all enjoy/love it. Only one person was a little lukewarm on it, but still said they had fun with it. I had a friend that absolutely loves Tron Legacy... He still had fun with this movie as well. He enjoyed that NIN tried to make it feel like the Legacy soundtrack in aspects, but still did their own original take. He definitely was hoping for more Legacy tie ins.

I completely disagree with pretty much every review I've watched or read. I am a huge Tron fan, so I am biased... I feel like this is 2010 all over again with the reviews. "Movie looks cool, amazing soundtrack, but story is thin and characters are boring/uninteresting." And here we are again with the exact same reviews.

I do find it funny people seem to act like Legacy was well received now lol. Definitely not the case. It became a cult classic. Time will tell with Tron Ares, but I can see the same thing happening here.


I loved all the callbacks to both prior films. I loved the mid credit scene. One of my favorite scenes is the light skimmer scene with that NIN song playing... it was just visually and musically so engaging to me.

Anyways, see you suckas on the grid in 15-20 years, probably!
 
Tron: Legacy was the first Tron movie in over 25 years, was mostly set in the grid and was using what was then new de-aging technology for a major character appearing throughout the movie.

Force Awakens is Star Wars and a sequel to a beloved movie after 30 years. It was always getting a huge budget.

There is no way Ares is profitable with that budget. I thought the whole plan with them ignoring Legacy and setting it in the real world was to keep the budget down.
Do you not understand how inflation works? This is them keeping the budget down. This movie is much cheaper then Legacy. Legacy would cost 250m today.

Also, important to point out. The grid, not super expensive. It's a vacant world. Shooting on location? Much more expensive.
 

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