Why are so many women getting tattoos?

[zeroapoc]

Trust me on this one.

 

[SaF]

I know a guy who had tattoos, then wised up and regretted it

Tattoos are like a lot of other stuff allowed under the name of freedom, and that so called part of freedom is forbidden by Islam, Allah forbids it, and what our creator forbids, it's a line I must never allow myself to cross, same applies to every human being, without exception
Race, gender, etc, nothing makes a difference, what's forbidden is forbidden

And please, I hope no one use that example of "those who act like they're better than you by obeying laws while ignoring others", and use "the exact opposite" in defense of the wrong, they both do things that are extremely wrong, and both need to be corrected where they are wrong
Yeah, watch this @3:29

"The needle punctures the skin in about a rate of 3,000 times per minute, injecting micro particles of ink, which intermingle with the dermis, the skin's second layer"
Tattoo's destroy the skin, considered decaying or not. The needle penetrates the skin. Only good sking penetrating needle is used to inject vaccines requiring to enter the blood without decomposition through the digestive system to take its effect

If someone you know is cutting him/herself with a blade, what will you do? Allow it? I doubt you will. Difference between this and the thing in discussion is tattoos are scars added by assistance by a pro in that area, and self inflecting damage is it's considered a psychological problem. Why is that wrong done by person to self is an issue, when some are licensed to do that to willing paying costumers?

Soooo as a lady who's planning on getting my first tattoo in 3-6 months, and who has MANY female friends with tatoos, this thread ranges from offensive to amusing. I also think its ridiculos to compare getting a tattoo to cutting, one being a voluntary expression of something you like and the other being an emotional response and compulsive behaviour from feeling out of control.

I'm quoting this particular response because what 'God' (which ever version you believe in) deems ok to do with your body changes between relegions.
Jehovah's witnesses are not allowed blood transfusions from things taken from genesis and leviticus in the bible, but the majority of christians do take blood transfusions, so are they going against God's will?
Besides even if your religion clearly states something is wrong, like abortions for example, they will bend the rules if it plays to their advantage, such as permitting the use of vaccines derived from aborted fetal tissue as it means so many people following your religion will live DESPITE using a product of something God says is wrong. You standing on your box and saying your way is the right way and everyone else is wrong is just inconsiderate.

I'd also like to point out that tattoos don't DESTROY the skin, that is what something like burning does. If the skin was destroyed then it would no longer function, you'd have no nerve sensation, the hair folicles would die, sweat glands/pores wouldn't work... all this is not true.
Tattoos cause damage to the skin to get the ink into it, and then it heals IF done properly and well. And then you're fine. Skin can take different pigments and still function, thats why humans are not all one colour, pigments/inks don't affect its ability to function. Again, this is only if the tatoo is done well and properly, there will always be horror cases that have gone wrong.

Finally about the 'moral decay' rubbish, the huge majority of people I know who have tattoos, or are going to get one (including myself) are not getting it to 'rebel'. We get them to commemerate and remember something unique and special to us.
I am a research scientist, as are alot of my friends so prehaps a biased sample, but we all have tattoos that are reminders of incredible life experiences or places that we will never have/go to again.
One that crops up alot is when you work in a remote field station for months/years, and that place becomes a huge part of your life, but then you have to leave and you'll never have the chance to go back there again (antarctica for example). People often get the lat/long, or the outline of the island they were on, so they can have a reminder of that place they will never see again with them. To other people that may seem stupid, but I really don't think its a sign of moray decay, or that those people are rebels or bad people.

For the record, I will be getting two words written on the inside of my wrist using none-englsih letters that I've translated myself so only I can read it. Because my tattoo will be for me, no one else, so why would I want anyone else to read it? My other half hates tattoos, but he recognises that this is not a phase or something that I want on a whim, I've been planning it for 3 years and he knows it is important to me.

p.s. I'm a redhead so in 3-6 months I'll put a pic of mine up, even though its only little =P

 

[Kane52630]

Aziz....

 

[Mad Love]

Why do so many men want to control women's bodies? That's immoral.

I think a lot of tattoo designs are stupid but it's a personal choice.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

zeroapoc: I'll trust you if I can see the future, and see that in it

SaF: Enough smokers argue they are fine doing what they do

Kane52630: Everyone does it, big part of life

fanboiii: Please say you mean the main article and didn't confuse "No one, never" and read it "never women"

 

[Jim-El]

Think pretty disgusting/trashy
JMHO...

 

[SaF]

SaF: Enough smokers argue they are fine doing what they do

giving another example of something completely unrelated and not comparable to tattoos does make any of your points valid

smoking is proven to kill you, you harm others around you if you aren't careful by passive smoking and it places a burden on the health care system to treat people doing this to themselves. How does getting a tattoo compare to any of those things? And how does it help your original point that 'God says you shouldn't get tattoos, so therefore you shouldn't'?

It doesn't. If you can't think of any intelligent repsonses to the counter points I rasied, saying more things that are irrelevant doesn't help your arguement.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

giving another example of something completely unrelated and not comparable to tattoos does make any of your points valid

Yes it does, it's self inflicting damage, and people argue it's ok/not ok

smoking is proven to kill you, you harm others around you if you aren't careful by passive smoking and it places a burden on the health care system to treat people doing this to themselves. How does getting a tattoo compare to any of those things? And how does it help your original point that 'God says you shouldn't get tattoos, so therefore you shouldn't'?

View the point from all angles
Self inflicting damage part, you send yourself to be damaged, on your feet, your choice, even if you don't hit yourself with the needle, you purposely allow it to hit you
And someone helps damaging you when you sit next to him/her, that parlor damages people by burning their skin
Not to forget tattoo parlors have their own tats

If smoking is irrelevant as you say, you're not looking at the full picture. You view tats as a way of garnish instead and not much more, smokers do something similar, it's to them a pass-time/way to relax, let loose some of the tension

One needle alone is painful, a bunch together make more pain, you experienced some, why do you want to experience more and defend it?

 

[SaF]

Yes it does, it's self inflicting damage, and people argue it's ok/not ok

View the point from all angles
Self inflicting damage part, you send yourself to be damaged, on your feet, your choice, even if you don't hit yourself with the needle, you purposely allow it to hit you
And someone helps damaging you when you sit next to him/her, that parlor damages people by burning their skin
Not to forget tattoo parlors have their own tats

If smoking is irrelevant as you say, you're not looking at the full picture. You view tats as a way of garnish instead and not much more, smokers do something similar, it's to them a pass-time/way to relax, let loose some of the tension

One needle alone is painful, a bunch together make more pain, you experienced some, why do you want to experience more and defend it?

I'm not exactly sure what you're saying on all points here (garnish? that is something you put on food here in the UK, may mean something else where you are?)

BUT you are missing my point, I'm not disagreeing with you that tattoos hurt or cause some temporary damage. They do. And if your version of religion says that's not allowed then, fine don't get one! BUT don't demand that everyone agree with your point of view and get shirty and high and mighty trying to argue why your veiw is the only right one.

I was trying to point out that different religions have different stand points on these issues, just because your particualr relegion says its against God's will doesn't mean all religions say that, and certainly won't have any impact on people who don't follow a religion.

(I still think comparing smoking, which WILL kill you if you do it all your life, to tattoos, which WON'T kill you even if you get 100% of yor skin covered, is a poor comparison. You've mixing up things that cause chronic damage with those that cause acute damage that can be recovered from, so yeah poor comparison value in my opinion )

 

[moviedoors]

You are obliged to learn and do according to what Allah allows.

Tough. Let's see him make me.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Yay, more religious pandering.

 

[the last son]

People with these Man Of Steel avatars are killing me.

 

[Lord]

Some Tattoos look cool, others don't. It's a personal choice, same as earrings.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Why was this thread revived?

Because it's a hilarious thread.

Yes it does, it's self inflicting damage, and people argue it's ok/not ok

View the point from all angles
Self inflicting damage part, you send yourself to be damaged, on your feet, your choice, even if you don't hit yourself with the needle, you purposely allow it to hit you
And someone helps damaging you when you sit next to him/her, that parlor damages people by burning their skin
Not to forget tattoo parlors have their own tats

If smoking is irrelevant as you say, you're not looking at the full picture. You view tats as a way of garnish instead and not much more, smokers do something similar, it's to them a pass-time/way to relax, let loose some of the tension

One needle alone is painful, a bunch together make more pain, you experienced some, why do you want to experience more and defend it?

Aziz, as a Muslim, you believe in the verity of the Bible right? Matthew 7:1-2 forbids the judgement of others and 1 Corinthians 5:12-13 specifically forbids the judgement of those outside of the faith. Judgement is supposed to be placed in the hand of God, right? Because no one knows what the will of God may be?

Also, Quran, 49:12 forbids backbiting (speaking ill/exposing the sins of others outside of their presence) and Quran, 19-24 forbids publishing scandals and broadcasting such. Hadith - Bukhari's Book of Manners 313, Ahmad, Ibn Hibban, and Hakim states that a believer does not find the faults in others.


That said, I can understanding making a post as to your beliefs and why/why not you believe/do not believe what you do, but excessively defaming the character of those who wish to get tattoos is just as "bad" as getting the tattoos in the first place - at least based on Islam.

So maybe take a step back and let it go, because I know you wish to spread the glad tidings of your faith, but your persistence might actually be putting people off a little bit, which isn't very beneficial to the growth of Islam.

This coming from a non-Muslim.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

This thread was actually kind of hilarious until people started turning it into a sermon. Smh.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Because it's a hilarious thread.


Aziz, as a Muslim, you believe in the verity of the Bible right? Matthew 7:1-2 forbids the judgement of others and 1 Corinthians 5:12-13 specifically forbids the judgement of those outside of the faith. Judgement is supposed to be placed in the hand of God, right? Because no one knows what the will of God may be?

Also, Quran, 49:12 forbids backbiting (speaking ill/exposing the sins of others outside of their presence) and Quran, 19-24 forbids publishing scandals and broadcasting such. Hadith - Bukhari's Book of Manners 313, Ahmad, Ibn Hibban, and Hakim states that a believer does not find the faults in others.


That said, I can understanding making a post as to your beliefs and why/why not you believe/do not believe what you do, but excessively defaming the character of those who wish to get tattoos is just as "bad" as getting the tattoos in the first place - at least based on Islam.

So maybe take a step back and let it go, because I know you wish to spread the glad tidings of your faith, but your persistence might actually be putting people off a little bit, which isn't very beneficial to the growth of Islam.

This coming from a non-Muslim.

 

[NickNitro]

I am no longer arguing on this thread, I'll just continue to post killer art

 

[DarkSovereignty]

Allah made me, made you, and made the very planet you live on and the universe you live in. You know the saying? God's Green Earth? God's Good Earth? God's Earth? This God is Allah, you live on his made Earth, you live by the rules he made for us to live by, you are no exception

You are obliged to learn and do according to what Allah allows. You, me, and everyone are generally the same, same metabolism, same digestive system, same need for nutrition, same need for self cleansing and waste disposal, same need for sleep, etc..

Don't joke about it or try to be a wise-mouth, people did this before and disregarded warning sent to them, now they wish to live again and do what they made fun of like you are doing now, do you need to wait until it's too late to try and make up for your mistakes? No, you don't
Religion of Islam sets needed morals for humanity, self inflicting damage is immoral accordingly, of all kinds

 

[Schlosser85]

Oh, please.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

Is that directed at me or him?

 

[Asteroid-Man]

*drops mic*

 

[Schlosser85]

The sermonizing above.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

The sermonizing above.

Me?

 

[Schlosser85]

Aziz

 

[DarkSovereignty]

Spider hyphen aziz most likely.

Edit: yep.