Why are they not wearing shirts?

[Venomfan]

phew at least herakles knows his stuff, hes right, the spartans did where armor, they trained in the nude, and did lots of nasty stuff in the nude that im sure wont be included in the movie, like the whole being encouraged to sleep with eachother and only sleep with there wives on weekends, the red was also so the enemy wouldnt be able to see them bleed

 

[herakles]

phew at least herakles knows his stuff, hes right, the spartans did where armor, they trained in the nude, and did lots of nasty stuff in the nude that im sure wont be included in the movie, like the whole being encouraged to sleep with eachother and only sleep with there wives on weekends, the red was also so the enemy wouldnt be able to see them bleed

Besides being of Greek heritage I have a history degree and I am in the SCA. So I am constantly getting into conversations about Ancient Greece especially with the topic being this battle!
Frank Miller's mini was a good "Comic mini" but I feel that a movie based on this battle should be the one based on the Gates of Fire book by Steven Pressfield which supposedly George Clooney has the rights to produce. But that is my opinion. Also earlier I said I wouldn't watch this movie...I am wrong I probably watch this movie.
I just hope that the stylization use in the comics to protray the Greeks and Persians are are not used in the movie. Greeks being protrayed with dreadlocks and the Persians as african fetish freaks. Now don't get me wrong Xerxes did have African mercenaries BUT his armies where made up of mostly Persians, Anatolians, Iraqis, Armenians and Greek mercenaries. Also the Spartans didn't have dreadlocks.
Also did you know that the decendants of the villagers that King Otto of Greece had populate the refounded city of Sparta in 1830's are the direct decendants of the Spartans who fleed into the surrounding mountains to excape the Gothic invasions of 450 AD.
Also during those Gothic invastions a Gothic army was repelled by a Spartan phalanx before a larger army invaded Peloponnese which sack most of the cities including Sparta.

PS Basically what I am trying to say is that a Battle of such inportance SHOULD BE done as accuratelly as possible of else you'll end up with a movie like Troy or Alexander UTTER CRAP!!! And this Battle MEANS SO MUCH TO ME that I couldn't handle watching a movie that doesn't do my ancestors justice! that is all

 

[Darthphere]

Besides being of Greek heritage I have a history degree and I am in the SCA. So I am constantly getting into conversations about Ancient Greece especially with the topic being this battle!
Frank Miller's mini was a good "Comic mini" but I feel that a movie based on this battle should be the one based on the Gates of Fire book by Steven Pressfield which supposedly George Clooney has the rights to produce. But that is my opinion. Also earlier I said I wouldn't watch this movie...I am wrong I probably watch this movie.
I just hope that the stylization use in the comics to protray the Greeks and Persians are are not used in the movie. Greeks being protrayed with dreadlocks and the Persians as african fetish freaks. Now don't get me wrong Xerxes did have African mercenaries BUT his armies where made up of mostly Persians, Anatolians, Iraqis, Armenians and Greek mercenaries. Also the Spartans didn't have dreadlocks.
Also did you know that the decendants of the villagers that King Otto of Greece had populate the refounded city of Sparta in 1830's are the direct decendants of the Spartans who fleed into the surrounding mountains to excape the Gothic invasions of 450 AD.
Also during those Gothic invastions a Gothic army was repelled by a Spartan phalanx before a larger army invaded Peloponnese which sack most of the cities including Sparta.

You will be disappointed then. This is based on frank Miller's 300. Which means all the xtravagant stuff, magical warriors and all that will be included.

 

[GoldGoblin]

That's because they want to show off their buff bodies and remind us that we do NOT look like that

^Speak for yourself

 

[kytrigger]

Besides being of Greek heritage I have a history degree and I am in the SCA. So I am constantly getting into conversations about Ancient Greece especially with the topic being this battle!
Frank Miller's mini was a good "Comic mini" but I feel that a movie based on this battle should be the one based on the Gates of Fire book by Steven Pressfield which supposedly George Clooney has the rights to produce. But that is my opinion. Also earlier I said I wouldn't watch this movie...I am wrong I probably watch this movie.
I just hope that the stylization use in the comics to protray the Greeks and Persians are are not used in the movie. Greeks being protrayed with dreadlocks and the Persians as african fetish freaks. Now don't get me wrong Xerxes did have African mercenaries BUT his armies where made up of mostly Persians, Anatolians, Iraqis, Armenians and Greek mercenaries. Also the Spartans didn't have dreadlocks.
Also did you know that the decendants of the villagers that King Otto of Greece had populate the refounded city of Sparta in 1830's are the direct decendants of the Spartans who fleed into the surrounding mountains to excape the Gothic invasions of 450 AD.
Also during those Gothic invastions a Gothic army was repelled by a Spartan phalanx before a larger army invaded Peloponnese which sack most of the cities including Sparta.

PS Basically what I am trying to say is that a Battle of such inportance SHOULD BE done as accuratelly as possible of else you'll end up with a movie like Troy or Alexander UTTER CRAP!!! And this Battle MEANS SO MUCH TO ME that I couldn't handle watching a movie that doesn't do my ancestors justice! that is all

I'm greek too, and I am really looking forward to this movie. While it won't be historically accurate, you have to remember that the main thing that has stayed from this story is the fight against impossible odds. This is what everyone thinks about when they hear about Thermopylae, to most, it is a tale of inspiration (which is what Frank Miller's novel emphasises over historical accuracy).

Just because that tale of inspiration isn't that historically accurate, doesn't make it a bad movie, or even a worse movie than one that would be more accurate.

I can see that the historical part is very important to you, and that is completely fine, but you have to understand that to the vast majority of the movie watching world, those historical accuracies come in second to an engaging "facing impossible odds" type of story that Thermopylae has always been about.

Seeing your credentials, I can safely say that I don't know nearly as much about history as you, but still, I like to think of myself as pretty up to snuff on Thermopylae, and while I will probably see many things in the movie that I know to be false, it won't diminish me from watching a (hopefully) great movie based off of one of the greatest stands of all time.

 

[Horrorfan]

Fighting withput armour showed that you were more brave than people who did wear armour. The Spartans were the bravest of the brave.

They also all died out.

Bravery and stupidity is a fine line.

 

[herakles]

I'm greek too, and I am really looking forward to this movie. While it won't be historically accurate, you have to remember that the main thing that has stayed from this story is the fight against impossible odds. This is what everyone thinks about when they hear about Thermopylae, to most, it is a tale of inspiration (which is what Frank Miller's novel emphasises over historical accuracy).

Just because that tale of inspiration isn't that historically accurate, doesn't make it a bad movie, or even a worse movie than one that would be more accurate.

I can see that the historical part is very important to you, and that is completely fine, but you have to understand that to the vast majority of the movie watching world, those historical accuracies come in second to an engaging "facing impossible odds" type of story that Thermopylae has always been about.

Seeing your credentials, I can safely say that I don't know nearly as much about history as you, but still, I like to think of myself as pretty up to snuff on Thermopylae, and while I will probably see many things in the movie that I know to be false, it won't diminish me from watching a (hopefully) great movie based off of one of the greatest stands of all time.

ti kanies phille NICE to know a fellow Hellene is around The reason I worry about this movie is 2 reasons, Troy and Alexander,,, nuff said

 

[kytrigger]

ti kanies phille NICE to know a fellow Hellene is around The reason I worry about this movie is 2 reasons, Troy and Alexander,,, nuff said

Yeah, these boards are just like Thermopylae, there may only be a few of us around, but we are always a force to be reckoned with.

 

[Horrorfan]

Yeah, these boards are just like Thermopylae, there may only be a few of us around, but we are always a force to be reckoned with.

Didn't the spartans loose in the battle?

 

[kytrigger]

Didn't the spartans loose in the battle?

hehehe...but we won the war

 

[Horrorfan]

hehehe...but we won the war

kick ass

 

[herakles]

hehehe...but we won the war

ZETO ELLADAS...... ADELFOSMOU






In English. Long Live Greece My Brother

 

[Venomfan]

yah herakles gates of fire would have been a much better book to base it on, there were so many other cool characters in it. dienekes was portrayed really well, and the whole thing with rooster was a cool subplot, and suicide would have been awesome to see on screen, as well as polynikes. probably even just a remake of the 300 spartans would be better.

 

[herakles]

yah herakles gates of fire would have been a much better book to base it on, there were so many other cool characters in it. dienekes was portrayed really well, and the whole thing with rooster was a cool subplot, and suicide would have been awesome to see on screen, as well as polynikes. probably even just a remake of the 300 spartans would be better.

Have you read the book? The book is my fav beside the Godfather.

Suicide ROCKED I LOVED the part when he shows up on the final day as the majority of Greeks are leaving except for the Spartans and Thebans all bandaged up refusing to leave stating that "I can't piss or **** BUT I can STILL fight!!!"

Also the part when Polynikes tells Alexandros that he was wrong about him. Dude just that part alone makes the book SO MUCH better than 300. PEOPLE if you liked Frank Miller's 300 you'll LOVE Steven Pressfield's Gates fo Fire. AS a Greek that book does my ancestors sacrifice JUSTICE!!! It goes into depth on the Agoge that Spartan youth went thru to become Spartan warriors. Also the discription of the Battle is done with such detail you'll think your there!!! Picture a river of blood and gore flowing down the pass between the combatants as they fight... That is how the battle is discribed!

 

[Mr Sensitive]

Because historically they wouldve just fought naked.

In fact, they didn't.

Ancient artistic representation wasn't meant to translate the truth in a journalistic way.

They were emphasizing the heroism of the warriors by depicting them naked in fight.

 

[kytrigger]

Have you read the book? The book is my fav beside the Godfather.

Suicide ROCKED I LOVED the part when he shows up on the final day as the majority of Greeks are leaving except for the Spartans and Thebans all bandaged up refusing to leave stating that "I can't piss or **** BUT I can STILL fight!!!"

Also the part when Polynikes tells Alexandros that he was wrong about him. Dude just that part alone makes the book SO MUCH better than 300. PEOPLE if you liked Frank Miller's 300 you'll LOVE Steven Pressfield's Gates fo Fire. AS a Greek that book does my ancestors sacrifice JUSTICE!!! It goes into depth on the Agoge that Spartan youth went thru to become Spartan warriors. Also the discription of the Battle is done with such detail you'll think your there!!! Picture a river of blood and gore flowing down the pass between the combatants as they fight... That is how the battle is discribed!

I just finished reading Gates of Fire today. Great book. Loved it. It would make a great movie, but I still think that 300 will also.

 

[neemer5]

I don't think 300 needs to be historically accurate to be successful.
Miller's work is (admittedly) more fantasy than historical, so the only thing that it should be true to is the comic.

 

[Venomfan]

yah i read gates of fire, my school library had it on display like a year ago, i had heard of it, and knew it was about thermopolye, and my favorite books are ancient historical fiction so i picked it up right away, it was sweet. actually the biggest reason they should make the movie based off it instead is because Xerxes was actually persian in it, not freakin like numidian.

 

[Turd McFurden]

if were getting really really real, let's let them have butt sex with each other. So there love of each other could carry over to the battlefield.

 

[herakles]

if were getting really really real, let's let them have butt sex with each other. So there love of each other could carry over to the battlefield.

I bet that would make you happy!!!!!!! You'd run to be at the front of the line!!

 

[Lady Leonidas]

The reason they wore red capes was because it signified a Spartan warrior. It was their trademark to have the red capes. While some did wear armor, most did not, and they were known for training in the nude as well.

In the "real" Spartan world, the "red" was worn was to conceal their wounds... I know... not in this flick! LOL!

Lady Leonidas